Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) @pubic_assistance You are his psychiatrist? Or you are privy to his medical diagnoses? Your comments are pure malice. Uninformed malice, because you are not a client, and you evidently do not know him. Why? One of these days, hopefully soon, one of the libelous trolls on this site will be sued. And this site will be shut down. And justice will be done. Edited January 20 by Keith838 Walt and pubic_assistance 1 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) The language of Keith in that last post is interesting lol but the point stands- Kai is probably a generally good provider. These comments about his personality might mislead a curious guy who is about to hire Kai to assume he’s not worth hiring. I do wish people considered more the fact that livelihoods are being impacted by pile-ons on this website….. your comments may be made on a whim but they have serious impact. I also wouldn’t speculate on his having Aspergers. That seems extreme. I highly recommend Kai, as I’ve seen him many times at this point, (and I’ve seen a LOT of New York providers and been unsatisfied). Kai is kind, quirky, handsome, has a nice bubble butt, a nice dick, and great at what he does. I simply cannot say that for most other escorts I’ve seen… who I end up only seeing once. Edited January 20 by Cretus Walt, pubic_assistance, NYXboy and 1 other 1 1 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Cretus said: The language of Keith in that last post is interesting Clearly "Kai" has joined the room ! 🤣 To be clear: I am not his Psychiatrist. I never met him in person. I spoke to him after merely looking at his profile. He messaged ME. (Not the other way around). And the conversation was so aggressive, twisted and angry, my impression was that he may be mentally ill and dangerous so, therfore, I passed on the opportunity. Over time others have commented on similar experiences and my impression has changed from violent bipolarism, to Asperger syndrome. That is an impression I carry based on multiple other life experiences with long time associates who were on the spectrum. 7 hours ago, Keith838 said: one of the libelous trolls on this site will be sued. And this site will be shut down. And justice will be done. And I will go to the courthouse and eat birthday cake all by myself. The response from Kai (Keith838) above demonstrates the anger behind his nature. Although an attractive man, I still would caution people about accidentally tapping into this suppressed anger that he harbors beneath the handsome package. Plenty of other providers with a hot ass and big dick who aren't potentially dangerous. Beware. marylander1940, Cretus and Keith838 1 1 1
Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) On 5/13/2023 at 5:52 PM, pubic_assistance said: He used to be cute. Not a fan of the new lumberjack look. Bumped into him on Grindr recently...was pretty rude in his response. OH, I see what happened. You reached out to him on Grindr, he refused to meet you for free, so you decided to try to destroy his business. Pathetic. Disgusting. Sad. Reprehensible. Edited January 20 by Keith838 Walt, NYXboy and pubic_assistance 1 1 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 21 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Clearly "Kai" has joined the room ! 🤣 To be clear: I am not his Psychiatrist. I never met him in person. I spoke to him after merely looking at his profile. He messaged ME. (Not the other way around). And the conversation was so aggressive, twisted and angry, my impression was that he may be mentally ill and dangerous so, therfore, I passed on the opportunity. Over time others have commented on similar experiences and my impression has changed from violent bipolarism, to Asperger syndrome. That is an impression I carry based on multiple other life experiences with long time associates who were on the spectrum. The response from Kai (Keith838) above demonstrates the anger behind his nature. Although an attractive man, I still would caution people about accidentally tapping into this suppressed anger that he harbors beneath the handsome package. Plenty of other providers with a hot ass and big dick who aren't potentially dangerous. Beware. Now you are casting him as potentially dangerous, having a potentially violent disposition, and having suppressed anger....... Aside from the subjectivity of these claims, they seem much different from merely being "neurodivergent" as many people repeatedly note on here... These indeed are very serious claims, and they can seriously impact his business. Personally, I'm starting to get disgusted. Edited January 20 by Cretus Keith838 and pubic_assistance 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, Keith838 said: OH, I see what happened. You reached out to him on Grindr, he refused to meet you for free, so you decided to try to destroy his business. Lol. Although that's a reasonable theory. It was the same scenario. I looked at your Grindr and you said hello to me. I didn't know it was YOU until you sent your privates. I am sorry if you feel I am trying to "destroy your business". I am more contributing my impressions (and experience) to protect the gentlemen here from danger. I am actually happy to know that you ARE able to conduct yourself with professionalism and manage to keep some regular customers. However - the constant name changes and angry/irrational threats WOULD indicate that there IS another face to this coin. I think you are aware that you have had problems with clients and coming here denying them with MORE angry rants is NOT helping you. Most people are happy to give second chances as long as someone admits their mistakes and promises to do better. Lying about it and threatening revenge is NOT a good path forward. Keith838 and NipLuvr212 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Cretus said: These indeed are very serious claims. I am sharing my experiences and drawing a conclusion. That's what adults do. That's what everyone does on this site. I made it clear, that these are my impressions and opinions and that I hold no certificate in Psychology or Psychiatry. So..no this is not "libel". You need to look up the definition. Keith838 and marylander1940 1 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: I am sharing my experiences and drawing a conclusion. That's what adults do. That's what everyone does on this site. I made it clear, that these are my impressions and opinions and that I hold no certificate in Psychology or Psychiatry. So..no this is not "libel". You need to look up the definition. You quote "libel" as if I ever said libel- you need to read what I wrote apparently. These indeed are your impressions and opinions, and you hold no certificate in Psychology or Psychiatry. You are free to spew these strong conclusions about who he is based off of your interactions with him. Others like myself, who have not merely chatted with him but have actually met up with him, are free to cast doubt on those conclusions based on our own experiences. Edited January 20 by Cretus NipLuvr212 and Keith838 1 1
Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I am not Kai, I'm just another member expressing opinions. Let @pubic_assistance's willingness to lie about something like that so confidently reflect on his credibility and character. To the moderators: Are there no standards of behavior on this forum? Are there no rules? Is someone like @pubic_assistance allowed to just lie and spew vitriol against a provider with impunity? pubic_assistance 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Delter said: Yeah this site can be ……. not great sometimes lol 😂 "The site" IS great. Because we all share our experiences and impressions. And that helps everyone make educated decisions about hiring. It might not be great for providers who have had problems with clients. Kai who is here pretending to be someone else, (possibly two different people), is understandably concerned about his reputation, and trying to protect it. That's fair. But It's not just ME, who's had weird experiences. It's multiple people...so this idea of "libel" is ridiculous from the root. As they say: if enough people call you a horse. It's time to buy a saddle. Edited January 20 by pubic_assistance grammar Keith838 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Cretus said: You quote "libel" as if I ever said libel- you need to read what I wrote apparently. You're working in tandem with Kai. (Or you're the same person ) marylander1940 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 35 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: You're working in tandem with Kai. (Or you're the same person ) I’m curious, what’s your evidence for this new ridiculous claim about one of many guys I’ve seen on RM, and have taken time to review + even critique on here 😂 ? Are more lies the only way you can retort to my last post? This new lie is quite suggestive about your own credibility, actually. Pizza please indeed 😂. Edited January 20 by Cretus NipLuvr212 1
Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If I'm not mistaken, I believe a while back I saw this guy @pubic_assistance claim that, when providers see him in person, they immediately slash their rates on the spot. I remember because it was such an absurd claim to make. We have a liar and and a fabulist on our hands. Anybody who believes a word @pubic_assistance says, I have an oceanfront property in Arizona I'll give you a real good deal on. Just PM me! pubic_assistance, NYXboy and marylander1940 2 1
marylander1940 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Keith838 said: If I'm not mistaken, I believe a while back I saw this guy @pubic_assistance claim that, when providers see him in person, they immediately slash their rates on the spot. I remember because it was such an absurd claim to make. We have a liar and and a fabulist on our hands. Anybody who believes a word @pubic_assistance says, I have an oceanfront property in Arizona I'll give you a real good deal on. Just PM me! @pubic_assistance is a very honest and trustworthy frequent poster. 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Clearly "Kai" has joined the room ! 🤣 (if that's true) it wouldn't be first time that has happened nor the last. Edited January 20 by marylander1940 pubic_assistance and Keith838 1 1
Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) @marylander1940 What evidence do you have that @pubic_assistance is "very honest and trustworthy"? Because he's been lying all day here. To follow @pubic_assistance's logic: the fact that you are defending him, means that you are him, posting under a fake account. Edited January 20 by Keith838 pubic_assistance 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Keith838 said: he's been lying all day here. By definition: Having an opinion that you don't like is not the same as "lying". marylander1940 and Walt 1 1
LookingAround Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I'm glad for him. It's always a struggle for people on the spectrum. As far as ME hiring him, our interaction was so bizarre and twisted, I was worried that he was seriously mentally ill. After listening to others here..it seems more likely that he's just got Aspergers. Asperger's is no longer a diagnosis. All are now on the autism spectrum. And your opinion is negated since apparently you were rejected on Grindr. Ive hired Kai. I found him a nice enough guy. Edited January 20 by LookingAround Cretus and Walt 1 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) I mean, it’s honestly possibie that Keith is Kai lol don’t get me wrong. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was trying to covertly defend his reputation on here. I also don't see that as a big deal lol 12 hours ago, Cretus said: The language of Keith in that last post is interesting lol But I also generally wanted to voice my thoughts here, and am a strong voucher for anyone I happen to feel is a high-quality repeat provider, and that includes Kai. Honestly, Kai, if you’re indeed actually reading this, it’s clear from RM ratings/reviews, our conversations in person, and some voices in this thread that you are quite an elite provider in NYC. My point in all of this is to highlight that broadly, you're an exceptional, attentive, and pretty successful provider! Edited January 21 by Cretus marylander1940 and pubic_assistance 2
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, LookingAround said: did you in fact hire him? I did not. I think made that clear. As far as Aspergers...I was unaware of the change in language preference. I've known many people over the years who were on the spectrum. Including a very good friend in high school. My opinion here is based on multiple people's comments about Kai mixed with my own communications with him as well as angry threatening behavior on RM & Grindr. What you are witnessing here from "Keith838" is the same tone and temperament as the messages I received from Kai in the past. So it's pretty obvious they are one in the same. (My opinion).
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, Cretus said: I mean, I quite honestly believe the possibility that Keith is Kai lol don’t get me wrong But I also generally wanted to voice my thoughts here, and am a strong voucher for anyone I happen to feel is a high-quality repeat provider, and that includes Kai. Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.
Keith838 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) @Cretus Ok so back in October, when I called out @DavidNY for dragging a different provider's name through the mud, I suppose I was that provider on that day? But today I am Kai? 🤔 I regret posting, because I fear @pubic_assistance's lie that I am Kai is doing him more harm than if I had not posted at all. Trust me, if I were Kai, I would not be talking to you on this site, I would be talking to an attorney right now. @pubic_assistance Isn't the only one on this site trying to destroy providers' reputations out of bitterness and pure malice. The problem is endemic to this site. There will be a libel lawsuit, probably sooner than later, and that will be a good day. Edited January 20 by Keith838 pubic_assistance 1
Cretus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, Keith838 said: @Cretus Ok so back in October, when I called out @DavidNY for dragging a different provider's name through the mud, I suppose I was that provider on that day? But today I am Kai? 🤔 I haven’t even concluded that you indeed are Kai! But your language was a little suggestive. Maybe you aren’t Kai, and I apologize if not. I really try to call things as I see them. The language used was a little suspicious to me, just as I believe strongly that Kai is an intelligent, dedicated, stunning, kind, and exceptional provider who I admire and hire a lot ❤️🔥 Edited January 20 by Cretus pubic_assistance 1
CuriousByNature Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I'll never understand how so many posts devolve into nastiness. It's so unnecessary and such a waste of energy, but I suppose there are people with a lot of time on their hands. big-n-tall, jimbosf, Walt and 1 other 2 1 1
Cooper Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Administrator Note: Gentlemen, ENOUGH! The subject is: @KaiJohansson in NYC - name change from KaiJohnson”. One warning only: stop the personal attacks and return to the topic. If you have nothing else to contribute on the topic, move on. Ignoring a moderator’s warning is a violation of our rules. big-n-tall and CuriousByNature 1 1
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