What questions do we want to ask for the new review site?

[RadioRob]

Just now, glennnnn said:

Thanks!! I do realize that photos also provide an answer to this issue.

In PHASE 1, we won't be able to have explicit images in the item records.  This is because I don't have a way (YET) to flag them as NSFW or hide them from guests.  That's something I plan to add, but that would be post launch so I don't slow this down any further.  

Technically I could add them now, but they would violate the site rules of no explicit content in areas accessible to guests.  I already have it on my post launch list of stuff to come back to!

[RadioRob]

To ADD an item...  if you are on the home page, you would see a button that says "Add Item".  It would ask you to pick which category you want.  

If you are already viewing a category, it will assume you want to post in that one and will take you directly to the add item form.  That's how the forum homepage itself works today.  I'm copying that logic and carrying it over into the reviews.  Regarding the screen to add a new item, it would look something like:

Photos are not required.  However before making the item available to the public, we'll most likely add a photo as part of the approval process.  As you scroll down, it will continue to show all of the questions, etc.  

 

[TorontoDrew]

2 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

Instead of top/bottom how about “give/get” for activities. For blowjob, rimjob, f@cking, edging, bondage, toys, FF - it would provide more detail of what the provider actually enjoyed, rather than just relying on the ad that says “fully vers” when he is not and knows it.

 

I agree.  It's needs to be at the level of the activity.  Top/bottom is too generic.

[mds1]

How do you plan to prevent people from entering the same item multiple times? Currently it is possible (and probable!) that we have 2+ threads going on the same provider when folks don’t look up the provider first. 

[RadioRob]

11 minutes ago, mds1 said:

How do you plan to prevent people from entering the same item multiple times? Currently it is possible (and probable!) that we have 2+ threads going on the same provider when folks don’t look up the provider first. 

My initial plan is to require all new items to require approval.  

This would allow review editors to add/cleanup photos if necessary, check for duplicates, etc.  

[RadioRob]

2 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

Instead of top/bottom how about “give/get” for activities. For blowjob, rimjob, f@cking, edging, bondage, toys, FF - it would provide more detail of what the provider actually enjoyed, rather than just relying on the ad that says “fully vers” when he is not and knows it.
Still, questions remain about role of “top/bottom” in rimming - give/get seems clearer, for example. And when it comes to “taking charge”, isn’t a bossy bottom actually the top? 

I am thinking about leaving Top/Bottom/Vers alone, however we have existing questions just below it that show a little more detail on activities...  the select boxes associated with them would have options such as get/give.  

• Kissing
  • Give Only
  • Give/Receive
  • Receive Only
• Frot
  • Give Only
  • Give/Receive
  • Receive Only
• Oral
  • Give Only
  • Give/Receive
  • Receive Only
• Anal
  • Give Only
  • Give/Receive
  • Receive Only

More detailed things like toys, bondage, rimming, etc are most likely more appropriate in some sort of "Activities" field that would be in the review form instead of at the item level.  I'm thinking this field would be check box group that lists things like rimming, toys, etc that people could optionally check off.   

As it stands right now, I'm still working on the logic to have "premium fields" that only show to specific member groups.  This means all of the sexual stuff MAY not end up in the initial "1.0" release.  If it does not make it there, it will absolutely be in a "1.5/2.0" version.  It's high on the list of things I want to see happen so it will happen before some other things I want to do.

 

[RadioRob]

3 hours ago, RadioRob said:

Regarding safe sex...  that's a possibility.  I'm inclined to put it in the premium field as I'm not sure I would want that visible to guests.  

As a question...  if/when I can do premium fields, what does the group want to see for options regarding safe sex status?   I was thinking about something like:

Safe Only, Anything Goes, Unknown

(On Rent.men they have "Ask Me".  Considering the escort does not own the record, it's not really appropriate to say "Ask Me".  I was going to leave it simply as Unknown.)

[+ keroscenefire]

I don't know if its necessary to have "orientation." This is such a personal thing and an escort may tell one client he's straight and another he's gay. To me, sexual orientation is personal and subjective and honestly doesn't even come up that much for me. I assume most of the time, the escort I hire is gay, but I actually rarely ask that and do not know that necessarily. 

One thing I would add is spoken languages. We not only have quite a few who speak languages other than English here in the US but this would be useful for those who travel internationally. If we're going to France, does the escort speak both French and English or only French (or at least mostly). 

Thanks for the work on this as well!

[+ keroscenefire]

2 hours ago, RadioRob said:

As a question...  if/when I can do premium fields, what does the group want to see for options regarding safe sex status?   I was thinking about something like:

Safe Only, Anything Goes, Unknown

(On Rent.men they have "Ask Me".  Considering the escort does not own the record, it's not really appropriate to say "Ask Me".  I was going to leave it simply as Unknown.)

I've actually hired escorts that used condoms the first couple encounters and then stopped using them subsequently. Could like "Sometimes safe" be an option? 

[RadioRob]

1 minute ago, keroscenefire said:

I don't know if its necessary to have "orientation." This is such a personal thing and an escort may tell one client he's straight and another he's gay. To me, sexual orientation is personal and subjective and honestly doesn't even come up that much for me. I assume most of the time, the escort I hire is gay, but I actually rarely ask that and do not know that necessarily. 

The way Daddy asked it was how did they advertise their orientation.  My plan was to do something similar in the tool tip. If a majority find this not useful, it can be removed. 
 

 

3 minutes ago, keroscenefire said:

One thing I would add is spoken languages. We not only have quite a few who speak languages other than English here in the US but this would be useful for those who travel internationally. If we're going to France, does the escort speak both French and English or only French (or at least mostly). 

So that people are not free-form typing languages, I need to provide a list to choose from. If this were to be included, what languages should be listed?   I would most likely need to do a multi-select drop down since someone could have multiple languages. 

Do we really care about the language spoken itself versus how well do they communicate in English?  Maybe we make that a question in the review form as something you rate 1-5. 

[RadioRob]

6 minutes ago, keroscenefire said:

I've actually hired escorts that used condoms the first couple encounters and then stopped using them subsequently. Could like "Sometimes safe" be an option? 

In the item record itself, how do you determine this? 

In Daddy’s system, he typically asked what was listed on the ad.  Which means we could only really provide options from RM/Friendboy, etc.  I’m not saying that can’t be changed, but just trying to think/reason through the impact.

Is this a better question inside of the review form to ask if safe play was used?

[+ keroscenefire]

1 minute ago, RadioRob said:

The way Daddy asked it was how did they advertise their orientation.  My plan was to do something similar in the tool tip. If a majority find this not useful, it can be removed. 

Do we really care about the language spoken itself versus how well do they communicate in English?  Maybe we make that a question in the review form as something you rate 1-5. 

I've definitely had difficulty communicating with non-English speaking escorts. Fortunately I do know Spanish and kinda French/Portuguese so knowing they speak those languages can be useful. Maybe we do a few ones that we feel are common in escorts (Spanish, French, Portuguese and Russian come to mind) and if it's a very unusual language, it can be put in the text. 

I'm wondering if part of the problem is that we are basically relying on RM instead of our own experiences for a lot of these things. "Ask Me" is an option for orientation on RM (https://app.rent.men/MildToWildCMT is an example). I've found that a lot of the "bisexual" guys tell me they are gay once I get to know them. 

With safe sex, they can advertise they use condoms but if they don't with you, then what should you put? Maybe the drop-down should be based on your experience? We're condoms used? Yes or No. Did the escort say they were on Prep? Yes or No. 

[RadioRob]

6 minutes ago, keroscenefire said:

With safe sex, they can advertise they use condoms but if they don't with you, then what should you put? Maybe the drop-down should be based on your experience? We're condoms used? Yes or No. Did the escort say they were on Prep? Yes or No. 

In that case, it can’t be in the item record. It would need to be in the review. 

The item record cannot apply on a per user experience.  That’s part of the reason for trying to keep the item record close to the ad.  If the encounter did not match what was listed, the review should reflect there was a discrepancy.  

[+ keroscenefire]

2 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

In that case, it can’t be in the item record. It would need to be in the review. 

The item record cannot apply on a per user experience.  

I feel like with the safe-sex question, this can be the only way. I think it just varies too much from encounter to encounter for it to be in the item record. Let's keep it simple though. Condoms used? Yes/No. That's pretty straightforward. 

[rvwnsd]

5 hours ago, glennnnn said:

Cut/uncut is rather graphic and vaguely judgemental. How about just yes or no? Further details can be included along with notes about the specific cock under review if needed.

 

4 hours ago, RadioRob said:

I'll leave this here to see if there are any other feelings on this.  I'm not opposed to a yes/no question.  

So, we are asking a question about presence/absence of foreskin but want a yes/no answer. Does "yes" mean "yes, he is uncut" or "yes, he is cut?" My suggestion is "Cock - cut" and a drop-down or radio buttons reading "Yes" and "No." We are asking about size, which is pretty explicit, so "Cock-cut" seems like it would be OK.

Regarding drug use, I agree with @RadioRob about omitting the question. We've established that some guys state "PNP" and mean it is OK for the client, but they don't partake while others mean weed, while still others mean using poppers. 

An addition I think would be useful is body hair. We've also established that some clients like shaved and smooth, while others like naturally smooth but not shaved, while others like natural body hair.

 

[RadioRob]

2 minutes ago, rvwnsd said:

An addition I think would be useful is body hair. We've also established that some clients like shaved and smooth, while others like naturally smooth but not shaved, while others like natural body hair.

Included.

Hair

• Hair Color
• Hair Length
• Facial Hair
• Body Hair

Daddy did not have a concept of body hair, so there was not any specific examples to include. 

I was thinking: Smooth, Shaved, Trimmed, Hairy, and Other

If there are other ideas, those can be looked at.

 

[rvwnsd]

10 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

Included.

Hair

• Hair Color
• Hair Length
• Facial Hair
• Body Hair

Daddy did not have a concept of body hair, so there was not any specific examples to include. 

I was thinking: Smooth, Shaved, Trimmed, Hairy, and Other

If there are other ideas, those can be looked at.

 

The choices you listed seem OK to me. RM has "Hairy" and "Very Hairy," but I don't think we need to get to that level of detail. One man's "Very Hairy" is another man's "yeah, he has some hair!"

[jeezifonly]

@RadioRob

Thanks for doing such a great job

(and/or giving great jobs 😘)

[Luv2play]

13 hours ago, RadioRob said:

Think of it this way...  you found the company of a gentleman and you want to tell the world about the experience.  So you come here!  (And we thank you for doing so!)

You come to the review database.  That gentleman you saw was not in our database, so you add them...  the questions that we ask about them are hopefully all going to be things you can answer either from the encounter itself or from their online ad.  Basically once you sit down after the fact, are you going to have access to that info?  (Either remembering it or copying it). Most people won't be able to go back to the provider afterwards...  "Hey...  I'm writing a review about you.  Would you mind answering these 10 questions?"  

Once the person is in the database, you get to tell the world about your encounter with them.  Was it hot or not?!

Daddy's site in Hooboy's day when I submitted reviews had a section where the client described themselves. That was useful in evaluating whether the client's experience was relateable to your own.

For instance if they said they were new at hiring I would personally discount their assessment since I am a very experienced user of the service. Experience in this field definitely makes one a connoisseur as oposed to an amateur.

[dbar123]

Two trivial requests if possible-

Whether the escort wears nail polish (a huge turnoff for me)… and if their dick is straight or curved.

A third one which is a total wild card is whether the escort has weak or strong body odor.

[RadioRob]

Just now, Luv2play said:

Daddy's site in Hooboy's day when I submitted reviews had a section where the client described themselves. That was useful in evaluating whether the client's experience was relateable to your own.

For instance if they said they were new at hiring I would personally discount their assessment since I am a very experienced user of the service. Experience in this field definitely makes one a connoisseur as oposed to an amateur.

Reviews are associated with the forum handle. The thought is if someone wants to provide a description, you would use the existing profile system.  That would link the two concepts. 

In a later release, I actually plan to include a tab in your profile for all submitted reviews as well. This would let you share a link to everything you’ve reviewed. I am also thinking about creating a signature generator that would dynamically update with some stats such as your latest person reviewed, total number of reviews, etc. That’s still in the “hey that could be cool” stage though.  I have not had a chance to think through and draft a full set of requirements. 

[Luv2play]

8 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

I've actually hired escorts that used condoms the first couple encounters and then stopped using them subsequently. Could like "Sometimes safe" be an option? 

I think sometimes safe is an oxymoron. Lol

[Luv2play]

8 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

The choices you listed seem OK to me. RM has "Hairy" and "Very Hairy," but I don't think we need to get to that level of detail. One man's "Very Hairy" is another man's "yeah, he has some hair!"

Actually I think the distinction between hairy and very hairy is useful. I also find otter is a good description.

[RadioRob]

Just now, Luv2play said:

Actually I think the distinction between hairy and very hairy is useful. I also find otter is a good description.

How do we differentiate it?  There needs to be something that is clear as people interpret things very differently. Imagine getting somewhere and saying “I wanted VERY hairy!  He’s just basic hairy!”

[+ Autumnal]

Not high priority but I would like the reviewer to have the option to enter (or not enter) their age, doesn't have to be exact, maybe check a box 40's,50's, 60's,etc. A review by someone near my age would have more relevance for me.