What questions do we want to ask for the new review site?

[RadioRob]

For the new review site, I need to start thinking about what info we want to collect.  I have taken the data from Daddy's site and have reworked it somewhat to fit into our new system.

Going forward, we will have a database of "items" (escorts, masseurs, strip clubs, spas, restaurants, bars, etc).  For each item category, we can have different sets of questions.  These should be things that describe the item (in this case the escort).  This info would be stuff about the PERSON, not about the encounter such as height, weight, hair color, build, etc.  

Once an item is added to the database, reviews can be associated to it.  This would be where we post about the encounter itself.  Such as where did it take place, how long, how much was paid, if the person matched their description, and if the person delivered on the promised experience.  

Below are the fields that I have so far for the escort category...  am I missing anything critical?

ITEM FIELDS

Name
Location

Contact Info

• Ad URL
• Phone
• Email
• Website

Physical Info

• Age 
• Ethnicity
• Height
• Weight
• Body Build
• Style
• Smoking
• Piercings
• Tattoos
• Eye Color

Hair

• Hair Color
• Hair Length
• Facial Hair
• Body Hair

Premium (NOTE: This field may or may not be included.  I'm trying to figure out if this will become a "premium" field for subscribers or if it will be member only, etc.  It under no circumstances will be available to guests not logged in.)

• Penis Length
• Penis Girth
• Preferences
• Position
• Orientation
• Kissing
• Frot
• Oral
• Anal

REVIEW FIELDS

• Location
• Date
• Session Type (In, Out, etc)
• Session Length
• Rate Paid
• Would You Hire Again?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Match Description?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Lived Up to Expectations?  (Rate 1-5 stars)

You'll notice most of the fields are associated with the item, which is entered only once.  When adding a review, you don't have to re-enter all of the info since we already have it.  Instead you simply just give us the details about your specific encounter with that person.  My hope is this makes it easier submitting a review!  

Also...  we don't want to ask TOO many questions!  Each question means more info we're trying to collect and adds more friction to getting someone to actually complete it!  If it's too hard to fill out or it feels like you're doing your taxes, people won't submit things!  So please don't be upset if not all suggestions make their way into the final version.  It's not personal...  I promise!   

[RadioRob]

Also to give you an idea about what this might look like when we're done...  this is a mockup I've made of how I think this is going to turn out when finished.  

All of the item info would be on the left hand side... such as Contact Info, Personal Info, etc.  The reviews themselves would be on the right side.  

[Luv2play]

Thanks for this preview. I think it might be exciting to have another review option than just RM, where I post reviews almost monthly about my encounters with providers. I am a great believer in posting and reading reviews.

I think you have missed a few points RM provides about their providers ( and client profiles as well) namely safe sex practices (3 options), health status and drug use. All are important considerations no matter where you personally stand on such issues. What's important is knowing what to expect so as a client you can be guided accordingly. 

Anyway keep up the good work. Will be interested in seeing your results.

[jeezifonly]

Instead of top/bottom how about “give/get” for activities. For blowjob, rimjob, f@cking, edging, bondage, toys, FF - it would provide more detail of what the provider actually enjoyed, rather than just relying on the ad that says “fully vers” when he is not and knows it.
Still, questions remain about role of “top/bottom” in rimming - give/get seems clearer, for example. And when it comes to “taking charge”, isn’t a bossy bottom actually the top? 

 

[RadioRob]

12 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

I think you have missed a few points RM provides about their providers ( and client profiles as well) namely safe sex practices (3 options), health status and drug use. All are important considerations no matter where you personally stand on such issues. What's important is knowing what to expect so as a client you can be guided accordingly. 

I had considered this, but there were a few concerns:

• Anything related to health status is a slippery slope.  PHI has specific legal requirements for both gathering and sharing.  Since we would be collecting info from someone other than the provider itself, there could be potential legal ramifications involved.  
• As a person hiring someone, do you really know about drug use?  I suppose if you saw it on the table, or saw their arms marked up you could, but that was something I would suggest being put into the freeform text field for describing the encounter.  I'm not sure its something that would make sense in the item record itself.  
• Regarding safe sex...  that's a possibility.  I'm inclined to put it in the premium field as I'm not sure I would want that visible to guests.  

[RadioRob]

6 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

Regarding safe sex...  that's a possibility.  I'm inclined to put it in the premium field as I'm not sure I would want that visible to guests.  

Actually as I think about this more...  I would most likely want to put it into the review questions and not the item record.  There are a bunch of times that someone could SAY they are safe, but in that session they were not.  Instead of trying to associate it to the person, associate it to the session (aka "the review").  At that point we are not trying to say if the person plays safe or not overall.  We would only be saying if it was safe during the session.  (The free-form text field could be used to say "we played safe, but he offered not", etc)

[GTMike]

30 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

For the new review site, I need to start thinking about what info we want to collect.  I have taken the data from Daddy's site and have reworked it somewhat to fit into our new system.

Going forward, we will have a database of "items" (escorts, masseurs, strip clubs, spas, restaurants, bars, etc).  For each item category, we can have different sets of questions.  These should be things that describe the item (in this case the escort).  This info would be stuff about the PERSON, not about the encounter such as height, weight, hair color, build, etc.  

Once an item is added to the database, reviews can be associated to it.  This would be where we post about the encounter itself.  Such as where did it take place, how long, how much was paid, if the person matched their description, and if the person delivered on the promised experience.  

Below are the fields that I have so far for the escort category...  am I missing anything critical?

ITEM FIELDS

Name
Location

Contact Info

• Ad URL
• Phone
• Email
• Website

Physical Info

• Age 
• Ethnicity
• Height
• Weight
• Body Build
• Style
• Smoking
• Piercings
• Tattoos
• Eye Color

Hair

• Hair Color
• Hair Length
• Facial Hair
• Body Hair

Premium (NOTE: This field may or may not be included.  I'm trying to figure out if this will become a "premium" field for subscribers or if it will be member only, etc.  It under no circumstances will be available to guests not logged in.)

• Penis Length
• Penis Girth
• Preferences
• Position
• Orientation
• Kissing
• Frot
• Oral
• Anal

REVIEW FIELDS

• Location
• Date
• Session Type (In, Out, etc)
• Session Length
• Rate Paid
• Would You Hire Again?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Match Description?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Lived Up to Expectations?  (Rate 1-5 stars)

You'll notice most of the fields are associated with the item, which is entered only once.  When adding a review, you don't have to re-enter all of the info since we already have it.  Instead you simply just give us the details about your specific encounter with that person.  My hope is this makes it easier submitting a review!  

Also...  we don't want to ask TOO many questions!  Each question means more info we're trying to collect and adds more friction to getting someone to actually complete it!  If it's too hard to fill out or it feels like you're doing your taxes, people won't submit things!  So please don't be upset if not all suggestions make their way into the final version.  It's not personal...  I promise!   

Under Physical Info "Shoe SIze" is a very common question 

[RadioRob]

3 minutes ago, GTMike said:

Under Physical Info "Shoe SIze" is a very common question 

Do most people submitting reviews have that info or plan to get that info for the people they see?  Are they going to pull out a shoe sizer to check?  

My worry is that we end up asking questions that we can't really answer.  Some info we can get from the person's online ad itself.  Other info has to come from the person who hired... for that data, it has to be something that can be reasonably answered.  Otherwise the info long term won't be really useful.  

By the way...  I love the suggestions and ideas.  They're great for making us think and ask questions about the overall value, the level of complexity in getting the info, etc.  So please keep the ideas coming!

[Luv2play]

I thought the basic data on an item, as you refer to a provider, would be inserted and then the reviewer would not have to include it themselves. Therefore if a provider states he is neg- on Prep, for instance, then that is available info. I always ask in any event, even when the ads state so. I also share my own status which may not be the case for all clients.

On drug use I always ask but have confronted one instance when the provider took drugs in my presence. I didn't include that in my review because it didn't affect his performance and I understood he was in a stressful situation.

[RadioRob]

5 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

I thought the basic data on an item, as you refer to a provider, would be inserted and then the reviewer would not have to include it themselves. Therefore if a provider states he is neg- on Prep, for instance, then that is available info.

In general, yes.  Things like height, weight, build, style, etc.  Those are generic questions that someone could reasonably copy over.  However things like HIV status, etc is a special category of Protected Health Information protected by HIPAA.  The person making the ad is the person reporting the status.  (Meaning they're sharing their own info.  It's their own info to share)  In this case, someone else would be reporting what they learned from a different source.  I don't have permission from them to take that info from a different source.  (In a court, that's like hearsay.  Don't tell Judge Judy what someone else told you about someone else!)  That's where I don't 100% understand the legalities and have to tread softly.  

[Luv2play]

I have encountered providers who advertise "ask" in regards to safe sex but in discussions setting up a date will agree to bb if they are comfortable with the clients status. A few will set their rates accordingly., that is set higher rates for bb. 

The same goes for some kinks like watersports. 

[RadioRob]

Just now, Luv2play said:

I have encountered providers who advertise "ask" in regards to safe sex but in discussions setting up a date will agree to bb if they are comfortable with the clients status. A few will set their rates accordingly., that is set higher rates for bb. 

I could absolutely see that as well.  That's also why putting safe status into the review question is most likely better.  It's going to be too complicated to ask if they tried to negotiate rates based on the service, and if so, what...  in those situations, the freeform text field is the better spot to capture anything like that.  

[Luv2play]

2 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

In general, yes.  Things like height, weight, build, style, etc.  Those are generic questions that someone could reasonably copy over.  However things like HIV status, etc is a special category of Protected Health Information protected by HIPAA.  The person making the ad is the person reporting the status.  (Meaning they're sharing their own info.  It's their own info to share)  In this case, someone else would be reporting what they learned from a different source.  I don't have permission from them to take that info from a different source.  (In a court, that's like hearsay.  Don't tell Judge Judy what someone else told you about someone else!)  That's where I don't 100% understand the legalities and have to tread softly.  

Oh I agree that it should be only the provider that volunteers the health status info. Here in Canada if one misrepresents that info, there are legal consequences about implied consent. 

[GTMike]

11 minutes ago, RadioRob said:

Do most people submitting reviews have that info or plan to get that info for the people they see?  Are they going to pull out a shoe sizer to check?  

My worry is that we end up asking questions that we can't really answer.  Some info we can get from the person's online ad itself.  Other info has to come from the person who hired... for that data, it has to be something that can be reasonably answered.  Otherwise the info long term won't be really useful.  

By the way...  I love the suggestions and ideas.  They're great for making us think and ask questions about the overall value, the level of complexity in getting the info, etc.  So please keep the ideas coming!

Apologies. I misunderstood. I thought some of the prelim information was initially either being taken from already listed information or provided by the providers themselves haha.

[Luv2play]

Another option to Top- bottom or give- gets is active-passive. I think the Europeans tend towards the latter. Then it is clear in a case like oral, anal, rimming, watersports etc.

[RadioRob]

28 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

Instead of top/bottom how about “give/get” for activities. For blowjob, rimjob, f@cking, edging, bondage, toys, FF - it would provide more detail of what the provider actually enjoyed, rather than just relying on the ad that says “fully vers” when he is not and knows it.
Still, questions remain about role of “top/bottom” in rimming - give/get seems clearer, for example. And when it comes to “taking charge”, isn’t a bossy bottom actually the top? 

I could potentially have a question in the review form itself (not the item record) for "Activities".   Something like:

But that would require building out a complete matrix of what options we want to ask.  I also would not make it a REQUIRED question.  Some folks are not comfortable sharing that publicly.  

[RadioRob]

One thing to keep in mind is that between 90-93% of our site is from the US.  So questions have to make sense to the "majority" audience.  

[+ glennnnn]

Foreskin presence or absence under penis details, please.

[RadioRob]

19 minutes ago, GTMike said:

Apologies. I misunderstood. I thought some of the prelim information was initially either being taken from already listed information or provided by the providers themselves haha.

Think of it this way...  you found the company of a gentleman and you want to tell the world about the experience.  So you come here!  (And we thank you for doing so!)

You come to the review database.  That gentleman you saw was not in our database, so you add them...  the questions that we ask about them are hopefully all going to be things you can answer either from the encounter itself or from their online ad.  Basically once you sit down after the fact, are you going to have access to that info?  (Either remembering it or copying it). Most people won't be able to go back to the provider afterwards...  "Hey...  I'm writing a review about you.  Would you mind answering these 10 questions?"  

Once the person is in the database, you get to tell the world about your encounter with them.  Was it hot or not?!

[RadioRob]

4 minutes ago, glennnnn said:

Foreskin presence or absence under penis details, please.

What options would you expect to see?  Just Cut, Uncut, Other?  

In addition to the question, unless we want someone to free-form type an answer, we need to give them options to pick from.   

[+ glennnnn]

Cut/uncut is rather graphic and vaguely judgemental. How about just yes or no? Further details can be included along with notes about the specific cock under review if needed.

Edited April 19, 2023 by glennnnn
Clarity of message

[RadioRob]

7 minutes ago, glennnnn said:

Cut/uncut is rather graphic and vaguely judgemental. How about just yes or no?

I'll leave this here to see if there are any other feelings on this.  I'm not opposed to a yes/no question.  

[+ FrankR]

1 hour ago, RadioRob said:

For the new review site, I need to start thinking about what info we want to collect.  I have taken the data from Daddy's site and have reworked it somewhat to fit into our new system.

Going forward, we will have a database of "items" (escorts, masseurs, strip clubs, spas, restaurants, bars, etc).  For each item category, we can have different sets of questions.  These should be things that describe the item (in this case the escort).  This info would be stuff about the PERSON, not about the encounter such as height, weight, hair color, build, etc.  

Once an item is added to the database, reviews can be associated to it.  This would be where we post about the encounter itself.  Such as where did it take place, how long, how much was paid, if the person matched their description, and if the person delivered on the promised experience.  

Below are the fields that I have so far for the escort category...  am I missing anything critical?

ITEM FIELDS

Name
Location

Contact Info

• Ad URL
• Phone
• Email
• Website

Physical Info

• Age 
• Ethnicity
• Height
• Weight
• Body Build
• Style
• Smoking
• Piercings
• Tattoos
• Eye Color

Hair

• Hair Color
• Hair Length
• Facial Hair
• Body Hair

Premium (NOTE: This field may or may not be included.  I'm trying to figure out if this will become a "premium" field for subscribers or if it will be member only, etc.  It under no circumstances will be available to guests not logged in.)

• Penis Length
• Penis Girth
• Preferences
• Position
• Orientation
• Kissing
• Frot
• Oral
• Anal

REVIEW FIELDS

• Location
• Date
• Session Type (In, Out, etc)
• Session Length
• Rate Paid
• Would You Hire Again?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Match Description?  (Rate 1-5 stars)
• Lived Up to Expectations?  (Rate 1-5 stars)

You'll notice most of the fields are associated with the item, which is entered only once.  When adding a review, you don't have to re-enter all of the info since we already have it.  Instead you simply just give us the details about your specific encounter with that person.  My hope is this makes it easier submitting a review!  

Also...  we don't want to ask TOO many questions!  Each question means more info we're trying to collect and adds more friction to getting someone to actually complete it!  If it's too hard to fill out or it feels like you're doing your taxes, people won't submit things!  So please don't be upset if not all suggestions make their way into the final version.  It's not personal...  I promise!   

Perhaps consider how the review site will differenciate between a “massage” and “escort” experience.  I think it is fair to say more than a few of us would appreciate that distinction.

[+ glennnnn]

Thanks!! I do realize that photos also provide an answer to this issue.

[RadioRob]

Just now, FrankR said:

Perhaps consider how the review site will differenciate between a “massage” and “escort” experience.  I think it is fair to say more than a few of us would appreciate that distinction.

The plan to put them into entirely separate categories.  It's up to the person to decide what kind of encounter they had.  The idea is you would pick a category.  Once inside a category, you would see all of the items in it.  Initially it will be simply by name.  (Eventually it will be similar to Daddy's where you could find by locations on a map as well as by date on a calendar.)

Below is part of what the review home page would look like.  Above this space would be a widget that shows a featured item/person.