Is it just me, or do some cities have more flakey clients than others?

[procheck]

What's that about? It is something in the water? Austin and Nashville are two examples of cities where for every serious client you hear from, seven or eight of them are time wasters or people who flake last minute. Why would some places have more crap like that happen than others?

[procheck]

Just now, procheck said:

What's that about? It is something in the water? Austin and Nashville are two examples of cities where for every serious client you hear from, seven or eight of them are time wasters or people who flake last minute. Why would some places have more crap like that happen than others?

By contrast, I've never been flaked on in Houston. Not once.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I was discussing this elsewhere about Nashville. I rarely make visits there much except once a year for a couple days. But the market there is definitely bottoms up (no pun intended). 
 

Being that you included Austin, in my experience it seems it’s often the “entertainment” cities that have this issue the most. Las Vegas, Miami included. Also towns that have experienced housing crisis/shortages like Nashville and Austin are also prone to it. And then when you add the fact that there’s more escorts than the city can actually accommodate (when I lived in Nashville and was doing somewhat decent for myself, there were only like 5 escorts. Even then it was feast and famine. Now there’s like 50 and it’s fell off completely). 
 

That said, it’s so many places that are becoming like that lately. I haven’t really found any 1 flake proof city these days. I have pretty much had to run the same policy in every city. However it is hard when some places with very conservative demographics don’t want to pay deposits or anything. Had that happen in one town, and since neither wanted to send a deposit and wanted the same time: I booked them both in case one flaked, and they both showed up. Literally. Not something I’d normally do or recommend, but it was quite the adventure 😆 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[pubic_assistance]

10 hours ago, procheck said:

What's that about? It is something in the water?

I'm gonna guess it's about the level of how closeted the community is.

Guys who are turned on by the IDEA of hiring a hot guy to fulfill their fantasies but to afraid to follow through with it

[procheck]

7 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I was discussing this elsewhere about Nashville. I rarely make visits there much except once a year for a couple days. But the market there is definitely bottoms up (no pun intended). 
 

Being that you included Austin, in my experience it seems it’s often the “entertainment” cities that have this issue the most. Las Vegas, Miami included. Also towns that have experienced housing crisis/shortages like Nashville and Austin are also prone to it. And then when you add the fact that there’s more escorts than the city can actually accommodate (when I lived in Nashville and was doing somewhat decent for myself, there were only like 5 escorts. Even then it was feast and famine. Now there’s like 50 and it’s fell off completely). 
 

That said, it’s so many places that are becoming like that lately. I haven’t really found any 1 flake proof city these days. I have pretty much had to run the same policy in every city. However it is hard when some places with very conservative demographics don’t want to pay deposits or anything. Had that happen in one town, and since neither wanted to send a deposit and wanted the same time: I booked them both in case one flaked, and they both showed up. Literally. Not something I’d normally do or recommend, but it was quite the adventure 😆 

Interesting what you said about the entertainment cities. Hadn't considered that.

I've never had a problem in Houston, I'll say that much.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

10 hours ago, procheck said:

I would guess that too. But hands down the flakiest city I have ever experience is Austin - a supposedly liberal city with lots of gay acceptance and visibility. But literally I have had to block seven numbers of people who were completely stringing me along in the six days I have been here. Makes me wonder if it's the same handful of people with different numbers. Do some guys just get off on being assholes like this? Is it a fetish?

Who knows. Best to just have your protective policy in place. Whether that be deposits, confirmation and instructions by a certain time, etc. 

Also Austin is just a pocket of liberal in a much bigger surrounding. I was thinking it’s the “biggest little city” but that’s actually Reno I was thinking of (which also is flaky as fuck city). 

Again, gay acceptance and visibility don’t always mean much and can actually work against the cause. It can also translate to: “Yeah we’re gay and open and proud, and I will give you my goods for free! You should do the same!” 

 

[procheck]

55 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Who knows. Best to just have your protective policy in place. Whether that be deposits, confirmation and instructions by a certain time, etc. 

Also Austin is just a pocket of liberal in a much bigger surrounding. I was thinking it’s the “biggest little city” but that’s actually Reno I was thinking of (which also is flaky as fuck city). 

Again, gay acceptance and visibility don’t always mean much and can actually work against the cause. It can also translate to: “Yeah we’re gay and open and proud, and I will give you my goods for free! You should do the same!” 

 

I'm pretty sure I just stumbled on the "Dallas Mafia" and figured out which escort is behind it...

 

[BabyBoomer]

30 minutes ago, Storm4U said:

There are absolutely cities that are flakier than others

Did you encounter any flakes in Denver during your December 2021 visit? Btw, your expired Rentmasseur ad is still up in Denver.

~Boomer~

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

4 hours ago, Storm4U said:

It’s not just you. There are absolutely cities that are flakier than others

You can add Kansas City and St. Louis to that list. It’s one of the areas with the most bad reports, and the same time wasters hit me up over and over and over again. I thought I blocked them, change phones and show up again. One in St. Louis, I sent a $1,000 cash app request to after he tried to book me again after flaking 4-5 other times. He seemed shocked. I wonder why 🤔 Hopefully this time he stays away for good. 
 

And being in KC, it’s just people who can never coordinate anything. Someone contacted me today asking if I’m available for him to come over tonight. I send him the instructions to book me if I host and he’s like, “next time”. I’m like, well if you can host and have hotel info to verify I can do it that way also. He’s like, “I am in hotel but can’t host”. They rarely do things conducive to booking a session. They’re always expecting last minute accommodations, but have the least flexibility. 

But also; some cities change. My first trip to Phoenix years ago (maybe 2012ish), I cancelled halfway there because everybody on my follow up list flaked. But then it took a few trips over the months before it finally started working out (I was living in Denver and the closest place to escape winter was either Phoenix or Las Vegas) However, I’ve seen it go back and forth between dragging and being lucrative on different visits. Hard to tell when. Like, some cities you have to “play” over and over again and hit it at the right season. Kind of how football teams do, hint hint @BuffaloKyle lol 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[pubic_assistance]

21 hours ago, procheck said:

 The flakiest city I have ever experience is Austin - a supposedly liberal city with lots of gay acceptance and visibility. ....... Do some guys just get off on being assholes ? Is it a fetish?

Isn't Grindr pretty much the same problem ?
People chat you up and then suddenly disappear when you set up a meet.

The problem is guys who want sex with hot men, but can't pull the trigger. Social anxiety is real.

[Jamie21]

15 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Isn't Grindr pretty much the same problem ?
People chat you up and then suddenly disappear when you set up a meet.

The problem is guys who want sex with hot men, but can't pull the trigger. Social anxiety is real.

The more explicit the chat / pics shared the less likely they are to commit. I have regular contacts from guys looking to schedule a session with me. Every 6m or so they get horny enough to initiate a discussion about all the things they want to happen in the session. I often wonder what prompts it?; the phase of the moon?, the weather?, some unconscious trigger such as they saw a 🍆at the supermarket?

Anyway whatever it is they message me with their shopping list of activities and request for my availability, with ‘definitely interested in booking mate’ comments….(yes the definitively heterosexual language is used….’mate’, ‘I’m str8 but…’ and the classic ‘straight acting’) and usually a bad pic of their ass. Of course nothing is ever booked and I hear nothing for 6m or more until the next time their desire has overcome their inhibition. Then they contact me as if we’ve never spoken before and the game is played out again. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

11 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Isn't Grindr pretty much the same problem ?
People chat you up and then suddenly disappear when you set up a meet.

The problem is guys who want sex with hot men, but can't pull the trigger. Social anxiety is real.

It is, you’re right. But Grindr isn’t sex work.   If I used Grindr solely to earn money, I would be in bad shape. It’s hard enough getting it for free, even harder to get it paid. And even when I do strike it lucky and meet someone, the quality of the meet is often low. 

Grindr is mostly an illusion cloaked in possibilities. You can spend way more time chatting to 20 people, than just 1 person booking a session. Plus it’s (mostly) all free. And free means anybody with no intentions can sign up and: waste people’s time 👏🏽 
 

Also many people are on Grindr for the wrong reasons. I don’t believe it should be used as a free instant brothel service like many guys do. I don’t go on, “because I’m suddenly horny” like @Jamie21 mentioned some guys do. That’s what porn is for. The occasional times I do go on, it’s more like: “I want to see what compatible guy is in this area. And hopefully we can connect and enjoy each other’s company at some point” 

The times I’ve gone on trying to get laid, is rarely ever satisfying. I get better results paying for ads and meeting clients who have a true appreciation for my talent.

I used to have better luck at nightclubs, blackplanet, adam4adam, and even the PHONE CHAT lines like megaphone back in the early 2000s 😆 

Edited December 15, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[italianboyph]

Oh for sure, I just don't get what people get out of making plans and being time wasting and flakey. If they have no intention at all, then don't hit providers up at all. 

[+ keroscenefire]

50 minutes ago, italianboyph said:

Oh for sure, I just don't get what people get out of making plans and being time wasting and flakey. If they have no intention at all, then don't hit providers up at all. 

I will just say as a client, I sometimes contact a few providers when I am visiting a new city. This is because I've actually gotten flaked on by providers so often that I like to have a couple of backups.

I sort of realize it sucks for the other couple of guys if the first guy ends up working out. If I can afford it, I will sometimes still try to set up a second session with another guy. Once on a trip to LA, I got flaked on by all three guys I initially contacted and ended up reaching out to a forth guy while I was there and that's who I ended up meeting with. 

I do explain to the other guys that I ended up meeting with another provider so at least they are not expecting me any longer. 

[italianboyph]

I get that completely, and flakiness either way is always bad. If I genuinely couldn't meet someone, I would try to find out a time where we could and I could accommodate to figure something out. I would never flake on anyone it's just not who I am. I think the only difference is clients can always move on to the next, and it's not the same for us. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 12/20/2022 at 12:25 PM, keroscenefire said:

Once on a trip to LA, I got flaked on by all three guys I initially contacted and ended up reaching out to a forth guy while I was there and that's who I ended up meeting with.

Very common in L.A. Add that to the flaky city list. But I think that’s common in big  cities. Idk what it is.  I know that dealing with paid ventures online tends to inaccurate portray the possibilities of a city. Sometimes I do better off just going to a club and meeting someone, but without sex work being the intent more as a backdrop.
 

I know the intent is good, but Idk if I would say that you met with another provider. Though it is honest and can help someone take other opportunities, not sure when that would be the best time to mention. What if the other provider flakes last minute? Then you have to go back to the other guy and say that fell thru and to come over? 
 

I think as I’ve mentioned in the past, I still think deposits could help clients and provider. Something like, “I can send you a deposit to confirm our session, but if you have to cancel  it…can you send it back?” That way it gives them option to decide if they can actually duly accept the booking or not. 
 

Of course, this is assuming perfect world and that everyone is not playing games. I know that can be hard to tell. 

Edited December 24, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Other thing too: All of the north becomes a big bowl of Frosted Flakes when the weather doesn’t cooperate. The snow from this week threw off most all my possibilities for the weekend in several cities. Squeezed in a few meets before the weather turned to shit, but now that it’s come and dumped on everyone, everything is dead. My RentMen messenger is just people requesting private pics unlocked only. And keep getting the same request to a hotel in town, from guys who won’t respond back.

Winter is the devil. Even Florida is sounding real good right now 😆 

 

[Marc in Calif]

12 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Winter is the devil. Even Florida is sounding real good right now 😆 

In southern California, it's 77 today, up to 81 on Xmas Day, and pretty mild thereafter. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

9 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

In southern California, it's 77 today, up to 81 on Xmas Day, and pretty mild thereafter. 

 

 

That definitely sounds nice. But on the other spectrum: I lived in Arizona for 2 months and did find the continuous sunny weather to get a bit: weird lol. And I spent time in SoCal and only seen it rain like once.

BUT: after a few Midwest winters I see now why majority of my classmates in grade school in Florida were from Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut, New York, Ohio, etc. I was barely able to get out of Kentucky because the roads were like skiing trails. Lot of people probably couldn’t leave town for Christmas. I was getting alerts from this all night yesterday:

If I ever do move back to a year round warm place…I will never complain about Sunny weather again. I got to feel the sun burning on my face today while driving (even though it was only 10 degrees outside) for the first time in weeks 😆 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ JEC]

I think there is something in here about cities with a high percentage of conservative evangelical religious closeted queer men 🤔

[BuffaloKyle]

On 12/24/2022 at 1:59 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Other thing too: All of the north becomes a big bowl of Frosted Flakes when the weather doesn’t cooperate. The snow from this week threw off most all my possibilities for the weekend in several cities. Squeezed in a few meets before the weather turned to shit, but now that it’s come and dumped on everyone, everything is dead. My RentMen messenger is just people requesting private pics unlocked only. And keep getting the same request to a hotel in town, from guys who won’t respond back.

Winter is the devil. Even Florida is sounding real good right now 😆 

Yeah winter does suck. I go into sexual hibernation mode from Nov to Feb! Just not horny usually, way too cold.