No tip clients

[+ augustus]

10 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

That’s a whole continent categorised then! 

It is absolutely true!  You've never been there it seems.

[Lazarus]

2 hours ago, augustus said:

It is absolutely true!  You've never been there it seems.

I think he is from there.,.

[TorontoDrew]

I've traveled a lot and there are arrogant and rude people everywhere.  Back to the topic of tipping please.

[Jamie21]

8 hours ago, augustus said:

It is absolutely true!  You've never been there it seems.

Hilarious 🙂 I live there (if you count England as Europe….many don’t but that’s way off topic!). 

I’ve traveled all over Europe many times, to about 15 different countries. Never found people to be arrogant (even the French…)

And to stay on topic, my European clients tend not to tip as much as Americans do. The tipping culture is different here. 

[Alex93108]

On 7/30/2022 at 2:36 PM, Jamie21 said:

That’s a whole continent categorised then! 

speaking as an american who travels a lot , i’m often embarrassed at my fellow country men ,  not only in terms of dress in places like Paris and Milan , but also demeanor and ignorance .  The blame most certainly goes both ways 

[Rudynate]

On 7/26/2022 at 5:19 AM, Lucky said:

If someone is being paid some $300 an hour, usually in cash, I would be astonished if they expected a tip as well.

I always tip - just not that much - usually $20.00

[Jamie21]

1 hour ago, jetlow said:

speaking as an american who travels a lot , i’m often embarrassed at my fellow country men ,  not only in terms of dress in places like Paris and Milan , but also demeanor and ignorance .  The blame most certainly goes both ways 

In Milan I felt totally under dressed even when I had my best outfit on. I tried so hard but effortless style just seems to be something only Italians can pull off. I just looked English regardless of what I wore. 

And yes…you can usually spot an American (you usually hear them first) and then you see them. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t blend in to the background. And then you find they are extremely polite in person. I’m not used to being called Sir (unless it’s in a Dom/sub porn situation!!) but Americans seem to like using the phrase…”yes sir” when responding to requests. It’s very charming to English ears. 

When someone is in a different culture it’s difficult to know what’s allowed etc so I’m not going to judge because a lot of what seems inappropriate behaviour is just through innocent mistakes. I find it quite funny to hear of some of the faux pas that happen. 

[Hlparx]

15 hours ago, Rudynate said:

I always tip - just not that much - usually $20.00

I’ll keep $20 in mind as an appropriate amount the next time I’m quoted “rate plus tip” for the donation.

 

14 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

And yes…you can usually spot an American (you usually hear them first) and then you see them. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t blend in to the background. And then you find they are extremely polite in person. I’m not used to being called Sir (unless it’s in a Dom/sub porn situation!!) but Americans seem to like using the phrase…”yes sir” when responding to requests. It’s very charming to English ears. 

In March, I was in a Paris pharmacy awaiting a Covid test to head home.  For the first 15 minutes, absolute silence.  In walks another group of Americans who take no note that no one else in the pharmacy is talking.  Another 45 minutes of hearing every detail of their trip, their connecting flights the next day, and the charms of Salt Lake City.

An English friend once told me that the English (or at least Londoners) seem to like American accents, which is funny since Americans (myself included) are over the moon for English accents.

[+ Just Sayin]

15 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

In Milan I felt totally under dressed even when I had my best outfit on. I tried so hard but effortless style just seems to be something only Italians can pull off. I just looked English regardless of what I wore. 

it is difficult to best the men in Milan for their stylishness; I was there in May and thoroughly enjoyed watching the cut of their suits, their sweaters over their necks and not their not wearing socks with dress shoes! 

[Jamie21]

2 hours ago, Just Sayin said:

it is difficult to best the men in Milan for their stylishness; I was there in May and thoroughly enjoyed watching the cut of their suits, their sweaters over their necks and not their not wearing socks with dress shoes! 

The not wearing socks is something I can’t abide, especially with dress shoes. You’d never see that on Savile Row or Jermyn Street. 

[Jamie21]

3 hours ago, Hlparx said:

I’ll keep $20 in mind as an appropriate amount the next time I’m quoted “rate plus tip” for the donation.

 

In March, I was in a Paris pharmacy awaiting a Covid test to head home.  For the first 15 minutes, absolute silence.  In walks another group of Americans who take no note that no one else in the pharmacy is talking.  Another 45 minutes of hearing every detail of their trip, their connecting flights the next day, and the charms of Salt Lake City.

An English friend once told me that the English (or at least Londoners) seem to like American accents, which is funny since Americans (myself included) are over the moon for English accents.

When I’m with my American clients I use my best English accent, it always works a charm. 

Of course an Englishman will be able to immediately identify my class status as soon as I open my mouth…so it’s less useful with the locals, they can tell I’m just a Londoner.  But a foreigner can’t tell and they assume I’m very posh (which indeed I am!). Of course if they want a cockney when I open my north and south then I can do that too.

And now I realise it’s straying off topic so just to keep things straight…I’ll do the accent for a tip, ok? 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Jamie21

[Rudynate]

6 hours ago, Hlparx said:

I’ll keep $20 in mind as an appropriate amount the next time I’m quoted “rate plus tip” for the donation.

 

In March, I was in a Paris pharmacy awaiting a Covid test to head home.  For the first 15 minutes, absolute silence.  In walks another group of Americans who take no note that no one else in the pharmacy is talking.  Another 45 minutes of hearing every detail of their trip, their connecting flights the next day, and the charms of Salt Lake City.

An English friend once told me that the English (or at least Londoners) seem to like American accents, which is funny since Americans (myself included) are over the moon for English accents.

I'm also curious what speakers of non-English languages think of their language being spoken with an American accent.  E.g., when I hear German being spoken with an American accent, I think it sounds dreadful, but the Germans don't seem to think so.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

When I'm COMPELLED, I tip like Rockefeller... otherwise I align with Ms. Post.

If your fee is $400 or higher, I anticipate 'compelled' and that the tip is already builtin. 

[spidir]

I'm always prepared to, and usually do tip 20%.

[Alex93108]

I was at a restaurant yesterday and the tactic used here in serbia ( as soon as they hear my accent is ) service is not included . whatever . It’s been used twice with me . I tipped in one occasion but not the other. on the low end 

Im inclined to ignore that speech again. 

Neededless to say , providers did not get tipped but I did my rounding up , which is what I do outside the US

[BonVivant]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:35 AM, Hlparx said:

I’ll keep $20 in mind as an appropriate amount the next time I’m quoted “rate plus tip” for the donation.

 

In March, I was in a Paris pharmacy awaiting a Covid test to head home.  For the first 15 minutes, absolute silence.  In walks another group of Americans who take no note that no one else in the pharmacy is talking.  Another 45 minutes of hearing every detail of their trip, their connecting flights the next day, and the charms of Salt Lake City.

An English friend once told me that the English (or at least Londoners) seem to like American accents, which is funny since Americans (myself included) are over the moon for English accents.

I prefer Aussie accents. Most sexy. Especially if it’s coming out of a tan, blond, blue eyed Boi. 

[BonVivant]

Providers shouldn’t expect a tip. Your are all independent contractors ( in 2022 at least you are ). Build it into your fee. 

[Yukon21]

I always tip when the experience is tip worthy.  We've all had the provider that doesnt put forth the interest or effort.  When its done we're all happy the time is over but that client walks away thinking it was a mistake to meet and not worth the price.  So for me, provide a great experience and you will receive a great tip.    

[Ali Gator]

Aside from providers, other businesses where I go in which the owner provides the service is the hair salon (been going to her for fifteen years) and my pet groomer (been going to her for five years). I don't tip any of them, since they are the owners. 

However, what I do all the time is RECOMMEND them to others - including providers I book with regularly. (I'm very good at recommending and promoting small businesses, being a small business owner myself). One particular erotic masseur whom I've been going to since he first started three years ago now has four additional clients (friends of mine) going to him on a regular basis. So his original $200 appointment with me has quadrupled because of my recommendations (which he appreciates). That's better than a $40 tip. 

 

Same with the hair salon I've been going to (can't count the number of people I recommended to her over the years) and my pet groomer.  Of course, it's up to them to keep them as regulars - I at least get them in the door the first time.  A flip side to this - if I gather the small business owner is unappreciative of my efforts (and yes, this has happened with previous salon owners I've been too - never a word of thanks for the business I sent them) then I stop recommending them. So it's a two way street. 

[italianboyph]

I don't think so, I think guys just with pay the rate and don't even think about tipping. They're also clients who know the Business, who do tip. I think it honestly just depends on the client, I don't think it has anything to do with the provider being good or bad.