Why do many Massage clients book things at the last minute?

[Lohengrin1979]

I often reach out to masseurs last minute due to the nature of my own schedule and career. It’s hard for me to carve out time days in advance and have it still be there when the time comes. 
 

I am never offended when they aren’t available.

I also notice a lot of providers who mention something along the lines of “same day appointments only.” So every provider has their own way of dealing with the vagaries of client availability, I suppose.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, Lohengrin1979 said:

I often reach out to masseurs last minute due to the nature of my own schedule and career. It’s hard for me to carve out time days in advance and have it still be there when the time comes. 
 

I am never offended when they aren’t available.

I also notice a lot of providers who mention something along the lines of “same day appointments only.” So every provider has their own way of dealing with the vagaries of client availability, I suppose.

I feel the ones who say same day visits only, may be trying to curb the other end of the dilemma: guys why do contact in advance, but then cancel on the day of. However, that still doesn’t really guarantee anything. I have had many clients reach out for a massage, and then “something came up” 30 minutes later. 
 

I remember there was a guy on here who said, if a 1st time client cancels on the day of, especially the same day contacted…they would get no 2nd chance. And that’s pretty much a policy I’ve adopted. Like.. we haven’t established enough of a “rapport” for me to let a last minute cancellation slide.
 

But see: that’s why I try to be flexible. I don’t mind taking same day appointments. I just say I prefer 2 to 4 hours notice. I say that number because, that’s usually the amount of window I can work with, in the event I’m in the middle of something…without having to cut it short. 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[OCDallas]

I travel for work and seldom know what my schedule will be. I generally browse the sites a few days ahead of time and might reach out to one or a few masseurs to find out their Outcall rates, availability, and just to see how friendly they are over messaging.

 

I do end up booking a lot of massages last minute because of my work schedule. Not offended when someone can’t make it work but I also don’t hit up any masseurs that list they need advance notice in their profile if I can’t give advance notice. If you don’t have something along those lines in your advertisement then maybe that would help?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

43 minutes ago, OCDallas said:

I travel for work and seldom know what my schedule will be. I generally browse the sites a few days ahead of time and might reach out to one or a few masseurs to find out their Outcall rates, availability, and just to see how friendly they are over messaging.

 

I do end up booking a lot of massages last minute because of my work schedule. Not offended when someone can’t make it work but I also don’t hit up any masseurs that list they need advance notice in their profile if I can’t give advance notice. If you don’t have something along those lines in your advertisement then maybe that would help?

Makes sense. However, I DEFINITELY have that I need advanced notice in ALL of my profiles. Some just don’t read it, or don’t know how to click and read the profile section (occasionally I have to screen shot my profile and send it to clients, highlighted, so they know it’s there.)

Based on the responses, I’m almost considering not posting on RentMasseur except during the days/weeks I’m wide open available. And usually the main times that is, is when I’m traveling. 
 

The other dilemma with this is; why aren’t people calling my rentmen ad more often?.  My RentMasseur ad blows up with inquiries at the last minute, but yet the RentMen ad I just renewed isn’t getting the same hits. And that one is more detailed than RM is. I can only imagine it’s another example of how certain cities are only busy when catering to the discrete m4m massage base 😒 
 

It also seems that RentMen inquiries are “generally” (but not always) more adept at contacting with more notice. Is it that maybe RentMen clients see it more as a date, whereas massage clients see it more as an Asian spa thing? 

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[xyz48B]

@Jarrod_Uncut, you point out an interesting dichotomy. If you read a thread I posted a few days ago (https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/129543-setting-up-a-meet-or-appointment/?do=findComment&comment=1897372), you’ll see that some ultracrepadarian forum members said my wanting to be direct in planning and stating what I wanted was a turnoff. Here, you as an escort, say that’s what you want or even demand. What are we clients to make of this? Should we be upfront and direct about what we’re looking for or should we take it slow? And how are we to know when approaching a provider if he needs specifics upfront or will be turned off by niceties? Not talking being rude here, but it was suggested to me I was too direct about what I was looking for as an explanation for why an escort stopped communicating with no explanation, while you (rightly to some degree, in my opinion) want to know the client is serious about arranging an appointment. So what is the right approach? 

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by xyz48B

[Jarrod_Uncut]

14 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

@Jarrod_Uncut, you point out an interesting dichotomy. If you read a thread I posted a few days ago (https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/129543-setting-up-a-meet-or-appointment/?do=findComment&comment=1897372), you’ll see that some ultracrepadarian forum members said my wanting to be direct in planning and stating what I wanted was a turnoff. Here, you as an escort, say that’s what you want or even demand. What are we escorts to make of this? Should we be upfront and direct about what we’re looking for or should we take it slow? And how are we to know when approaching a provider if he needs specifics upfront or will be turned off by niceties? Not talking being rude here, but it was suggested to me I was too direct about what I was looking for as an explanation for why an escort stopped communicating with no explanation, while you (rightly to some degree, in my opinion) want to know the client is serious about arranging an appointment. So what is the right approach? 

 

Not really sure what you’re asking? Your post was (understandably) about booking escorts and the difficulties of doing so (which I can imagine is true).

But that’s more of a general, broad observation. I’m more interested in why scheduling visits in advance when it comes to massage, seems to be of the harder variety

[xyz48B]

@Jarrod_Uncut– I broadened the question to ask why scheduling is difficult period. 

[Pd1_jap]

Let's all be real here. If I was as hot as some of these guys I'd be trying to get my way onto David G's yacht. The other half of the time these guys are attending circuit parties, IML in Chicago, market days, pride in several cities, carnival, Christmas, Hanaka, Festivus, Folsom, the world cup, et cetera. And like all of us we are busy people and time is the only currency worth having. We make the best choices we can within the constraints of the physical world. 

Peace be with you my friends. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

59 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

@Jarrod_Uncut– I broadened the question to ask why scheduling is difficult period. 

Well I’m trying to focus on one specific thing here. Asking why scheduling is difficult, just leaves to many variables at play. You can’t get down to the bottom of something if you don’t first address the fundamental causes.

And for me, the main fundamental cause is that (at least in certain markets) is that guys aren’t putting in enough conscious effort to schedule things. I don’t want to hear about someone “not knowing their work schedule” or “how long a dinner may go on”. That has nothing to do with me. The easiest solution would be: “hey, I’m interested in meeting. My work schedule is kinda funky, but can you be open to see me on either of these days at either of these times?” (Giving options, but if a person doesn’t respect a providers time, they probably won’t think that far ahead).

As far as other details on scheduling difficulties, each individual is going to have different ways of booking. My booking process is very simply. I send the following:

1. Client info form (name, age, website seen on, host or travel.

2. My rates 

3. There’s or my Location and Deposit form (if applicable) 

it’s that’s simple. However, some people mess up the process when they try to give me an unreasonable deadline to meet by. I can’t possibly be ready to meet “now” without having any of that info beforehand. People forget it’s not a 1 way street: sure you may see all of MY details posted, but I know nothing. 

[xyz48B]

If there agreed upon standards that providers and clients could expect, the problem would be less. As it is, there is way too much guessing and blaming happening. And sadly not all escorts nor all clients are at all reliable or courteous. And there’s way too much sense of entitled superiority going around for all. 

[xyz48B]

7 hours ago, Pd1_jap said:

The other half of the time these guys are attending circuit parties, IML in Chicago, market days, pride in several cities, carnival, Christmas, Hanaka, Festivus, Folsom, the world cup, et cetera.

What irks me is that what would be considered a diversion for us plebeians, a diversion we have to pay for, some escorts see as work to be comped for. In effect, a lot of escorts are paid to have fun. Do I fault them for finding a way to party and get paid for it? No. Bully for you. But don’t try to tell me it’s onerous to go to Folsom and get paid for it by a client if you’d go paying out of your own pocket sans paying client…You’re getting paid to have fun.

I have similar perks in my job. I have people who will pay for me to go out to eat with them or pay for my ticket to see a show with them, but I’d go anyhow and I’d pay myself if I did. It’s a perk of my job, but going out to eat with my clients who sometimes pay isn’t “work” in the same way that sitting down with them is when they make an appointment to see me in my office.

Right now I’m a tad irked at the behavior of some escorts when it comes to this sort of thing. I need to put in for vacation for next year for various reasons. I’m looking to travel abroad. I don’t want to go alone, so I contact a regular. Explained to him what’s up and his answer: “I’ll have to see.” Like…you have to see if something better than a FREE VACATION ABROAD comes up? Not only free, but paid to go. Add to that that last time he and I went on vacation, I had no issue with him working his regular job remotely because the time difference allowed for him to get up early local time and we still had the day after he was done with work. But still. He was paid to go on a free vacation. And he’s not sure he wants to repeat it. I decided I would ask my other regular who immediately said it was great and we’d make it work however need be. I wanted to go somewhere with him anyhow, but the difficulty with the first guy really disendears me to him…

[Jamie21]

24 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

What irks me is that what would be considered a diversion for us plebeians, a diversion we have to pay for, some escorts see as work to be comped for. In effect, a lot of escorts are paid to have fun. Do I fault them for finding a way to party and get paid for it? No. Bully for you. But don’t try to tell me it’s onerous to go to Folsom and get paid for it by a client if you’d go paying out of your own pocket sans paying client…You’re getting paid to have fun.

I have similar perks in my job. I have people who will pay for me to go out to eat with them or pay for my ticket to see a show with them, but I’d go anyhow and I’d pay myself if I did. It’s a perk of my job, but going out to eat with my clients who sometimes pay isn’t “work” in the same way that sitting down with them is when they make an appointment to see me in my office.

Right now I’m a tad irked at the behavior of some escorts when it comes to this sort of thing. I need to put in for vacation for next year for various reasons. I’m looking to travel abroad. I don’t want to go alone, so I contact a regular. Explained to him what’s up and his answer: “I’ll have to see.” Like…you have to see if something better than a FREE VACATION ABROAD comes up? Not only free, but paid to go. Add to that that last time he and I went on vacation, I had no issue with him working his regular job remotely because the time difference allowed for him to get up early local time and we still had the day after he was done with work. But still. He was paid to go on a free vacation. And he’s not sure he wants to repeat it. I decided I would ask my other regular who immediately said it was great and we’d make it work however need be. I wanted to go somewhere with him anyhow, but the difficulty with the first guy really disendears me to him…

Work, whatever it is and regardless of whether it’s supposedly fun, is always work in the end.

Today I did a porn filming session, and got to film with an extremely hot guy who I’d gladly have fun with in my spare time. But it was work, I didn’t enjoy it (although I didn’t hate it either!). I think it’s because it had to be done to meet obligations etc. It’s not like we both chose to be there purely for fun. We were both doing it to make money.

Your provider who turned down a paid vacation probably views it as being work primarily and therefore it comes with obligations, so he needs to think about it. You’re viewing it from a different perspective to him.

I had a client offer to take me on vacation (I pay nothing), and of course there was an expectation on me to keep him entertained (although nothing was explicitly requested). I declined. I took the view that would I go on vacation with him if I paid my share and we went as friends? If the answer to that is “no” then I shouldn’t go if it’s a client relationship. Just because he’s paying for everything doesn’t change the decision for me. I wouldn’t have gone as friends so I wouldn’t go as a provider. It’s too long together unless you’re totally compatible. 
 

[+ Lucky]

Ultracrepidarian definition, noting or pertaining to a person who criticizes, judges, or gives advice outside the area of his or her expertise

It's a new word for me! Thanks @xyz48B

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, xyz48B said:

If there agreed upon standards that providers and clients could expect, the problem would be less. As it is, there is way too much guessing and blaming happening. And sadly not all escorts nor all clients are at all reliable or courteous. And there’s way too much sense of entitled superiority going around for all. 

Great post!

Also an hour of fun won't change a client's life either. Let's keep expectations realistic. 

[Dallas Jayson]

On 10/6/2021 at 9:50 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

This is something I’m grappling with, as I’m in between on whether I want to keep advertising on RentMasseur. It just seems that with bookings from the site, people often text me without any opportunity to arrange a session. Just in the past 24 hours, I’ve had 2 people reach out to arrange a visit. I was unable to take either one because the 1st one was at a hotel and contacted me around 7:30. The typical “are you in…(insert city)” reply (I have an auto-response to deal with such vague inquiries, but it very often an indicator of someone who’s not going to be reliable). When I said I’d be available at 10, he says it would be too late, but would try me back tomorrow. Tomorrow is here and he never followed back up 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
 

It seems like the clients from RentMasseur just have no idea how to book a session with someone online. I don’t know if they come into it like they’re going into a store or barber salon or what. But it just grates my nerves. It’s almost a weekly basis I’m having to explain to a client from RentMasseur that, you can’t just text me an hour before you want a session and expect me to just be “available”. Why can’t they get it into their heads? Do people just expect massage guys to have or be at a studio round the clock?

I hear people say, “oh I don’t know when my meetings or time will be free”. But if they’re too busy to meet, how am I supposed to help? And there’s only 4-5 guys advertising on the site in this city as it is. I get tired of people expecting me to drop everything and accommodate, when I’ve had no sort of idea of when to be expected to take a booking. I can literally be quiet with no bookings for 2, 3 days…and then someone will reach out asking to meet without any notice. And most times I end up not being able to take it because after so long, I actually do have to do something with my life.

Or is this more to do with this thread, that seems to be the overall issue with taking bookings in this area.

 

I have several comments, and these are from my experience.

I often travel for business, and the nature of my work/client need, is somewhat unpredictable.

When I have attempted to plan ahead I have found that 1]some providers do not take you seriously if you are not currently in their city and that many providers 2]assume you are playing games if plans change.  Consequently, I wait until I am back in my hotel, and begin the process of find a provider.

As a business owner, I find good customer service from providers VERY RARE!  Every service industry is all about customer service, anticipation of needs and accommodation.

Just my 2cents

[marylander1940]

On 10/6/2021 at 10:50 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

This is something I’m grappling with, as I’m in between on whether I want to keep advertising on RentMasseur. It just seems that with bookings from the site, people often text me without any opportunity to arrange a session. Just in the past 24 hours, I’ve had 2 people reach out to arrange a visit. I was unable to take either one because the 1st one was at a hotel and contacted me around 7:30. The typical “are you in…(insert city)” reply (I have an auto-response to deal with such vague inquiries, but it very often an indicator of someone who’s not going to be reliable). When I said I’d be available at 10, he says it would be too late, but would try me back tomorrow. Tomorrow is here and he never followed back up 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
 

It seems like the clients from RentMasseur just have no idea how to book a session with someone online. I don’t know if they come into it like they’re going into a store or barber salon or what. But it just grates my nerves. It’s almost a weekly basis I’m having to explain to a client from RentMasseur that, you can’t just text me an hour before you want a session and expect me to just be “available”. Why can’t they get it into their heads? Do people just expect massage guys to have or be at a studio round the clock?

I hear people say, “oh I don’t know when my meetings or time will be free”. But if they’re too busy to meet, how am I supposed to help? And there’s only 4-5 guys advertising on the site in this city as it is. I get tired of people expecting me to drop everything and accommodate, when I’ve had no sort of idea of when to be expected to take a booking. I can literally be quiet with no bookings for 2, 3 days…and then someone will reach out asking to meet without any notice. And most times I end up not being able to take it because after so long, I actually do have to do something with my life.

Or is this more to do with this thread, that seems to be the overall issue with taking bookings in this area.

 

Part of the job is being available, you might days with nothing going on and suddenly the phone rings and is your choice to leave errands, hookups, etc. for later and take the call or not. 

At least in this century escorts have a cellphone and they're not stuck at home waiting for their landline to rin like it was in the early 90's. 

the guy who contacted you at 7:30 should have been more flexible, maybe his expectations about you being available right away were too hopeful but most escorts usually can go meet someone at a hotel within an hour of less as long as they're free.

Massages are too much work and half the pay or even less. Make up your mind about it. 

[Pd1_jap]

1 hour ago, xyz48B said:

FREE VACATION ABROAD

I don't even want to go on vacation with my partner most of the time. Not all of us are easy to travel with. Not to mention the patience required just to get through things like airport security and customs. Unless you're paying for him to travel by himself to a destination he wants to go, it's not free. His expenses are his time and his attention and no matter how you sugar coat it that is an obligation. A pretty sweet obligation considering all viable comparisons but still an obligation. 😘

When you travel with a guy, do you buy his ticket and other logistical expenses directly or do you give the guy the cash and let him purchase it? I've thought about hiring a guy to travel with me but I feel like giving cash to an escort for travel expenses is rife for scamming. How do I know he'll even turn up?

But I do agree that many of these hot guys are accustomed to having everything paid for them and are in effect shielded from the grim reality of market forces. Life isn't fair. There is a reason why we pay to spend time with these guys. Reality may hit them when they are older or if they get turned out on meth but until then I wish them every happiness. 

[xyz48B]

2 hours ago, Lucky said:

Ultracrepidarian definition, noting or pertaining to a person who criticizes, judges, or gives advice outside the area of his or her expertise

It's a new word for me! Thanks @xyz48B

It’s one of my faves – and is so often apt! 

[xyz48B]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Work, whatever it is and regardless of whether it’s supposedly fun, is always work in the end.

Today I did a porn filming session, and got to film with an extremely hot guy who I’d gladly have fun with in my spare time. But it was work, I didn’t enjoy it (although I didn’t hate it either!). I think it’s because it had to be done to meet obligations etc. It’s not like we both chose to be there purely for fun. We were both doing it to make money.

Your provider who turned down a paid vacation probably views it as being work primarily and therefore it comes with obligations, so he needs to think about it. You’re viewing it from a different perspective to him.

I had a client offer to take me on vacation (I pay nothing), and of course there was an expectation on me to keep him entertained (although nothing was explicitly requested). I declined. I took the view that would I go on vacation with him if I paid my share and we went as friends? If the answer to that is “no” then I shouldn’t go if it’s a client relationship. Just because he’s paying for everything doesn’t change the decision for me. I wouldn’t have gone as friends so I wouldn’t go as a provider. It’s too long together unless you’re totally compatible. 
 

I’m glad I enjoy my work. The day my work becomes “just a job” is the day I start looking for another kind of work. 

If he could keep doing his regular work while on vacation, thus saving actual vacation time, it seems to me that what he’s doing with me isn’t his primary focus. I have to disagree that the escort is supposed to entertain me the whole time. He went to the beach for hours by himself when I stayed in the room and read. He napped because he got up early for work meetings. He went to the gym without me. I wasn’t expecting him to spend 24/7 with me nor spend every waking hour to cater to my needs. He’s a regular. As is the guy I ended up asking to go instead. They know I don’t expect them to entertain me 24/7 and they have their space as they need it. I’m not unreasonable and realize they’re people. I want it to be an enjoyable experience for both of us, and I recognize that time doing your own thing is part of that. I wouldn’t have regulars who want to be up my ass, literally and figuratively, for the multiple days we’re together. 

Edited October 8, 2021 by xyz48B

[xyz48B]

1 hour ago, Pd1_jap said:

When you travel with a guy, do you buy his ticket and other logistical expenses directly or do you give the guy the cash and let him purchase it? I've thought about hiring a guy to travel with me but I feel like giving cash to an escort for travel expenses is rife for scamming. How do I know he'll even turn up?

I paid everything up front, aside from his compensation, including his Uber to and from the airport when he left his apartment and when he returned to his apartment. He bought me lunch one day we were out and bought me a sandwich (with cheese, which he knows I don’t like so he ended up eating it) on our flight home.

Edited October 8, 2021 by xyz48B

[Jamie21]

1 hour ago, xyz48B said:

I paid everything up front, aside from his compensation, including his Uber to and from the airport when he left his apartment and when he returned to his apartment. He bought me lunch one day we were out and bought me a sandwich (with cheese, which he knows I don’t like so he ended up eating it) on our flight home.

You seem very reasonable! I know what you mean about work needing to be enjoyable but even then it’s still work. I love my work, I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t but even so it’s still work and if I’m going on vacation I don’t want to do any work atall. It’s a break from work. 

[xyz48B]

@Jamie21– I’m not an escort, so I’m going to be asked less to go on vacation with a client from work, but of those clients who would likely feel comfortable enough taking me on vacation with them, if I did go with them on vacation – paid by them or by me – I wouldn’t consider going along on vacation with them work. And to be clear: I am comped primarily for my time with these people.

Is escorting that strict about being with someone who’s not a friend that it’s work? Or if money is sometimes transacted for services rendered that every interaction is work? Serious question.

[Okashii81]

13 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Well I’m trying to focus on one specific thing here. Asking why scheduling is difficult, just leaves to many variables at play. You can’t get down to the bottom of something if you don’t first address the fundamental causes.

And for me, the main fundamental cause is that (at least in certain markets) is that guys aren’t putting in enough conscious effort to schedule things. I don’t want to hear about someone “not knowing their work schedule” or “how long a dinner may go on”. That has nothing to do with me. The easiest solution would be: “hey, I’m interested in meeting. My work schedule is kinda funky, but can you be open to see me on either of these days at either of these times?” (Giving options, but if a person doesn’t respect a providers time, they probably won’t think that far ahead).

As far as other details on scheduling difficulties, each individual is going to have different ways of booking. My booking process is very simply. I send the following:

1. Client info form (name, age, website seen on, host or travel.

2. My rates 

3. There’s or my Location and Deposit form (if applicable) 

it’s that’s simple. However, some people mess up the process when they try to give me an unreasonable deadline to meet by. I can’t possibly be ready to meet “now” without having any of that info beforehand. People forget it’s not a 1 way street: sure you may see all of MY details posted, but I know nothing. 

I think there are two separate issues: your general displeasure with last minute bookings and clients not adhering to the preferences stated in your advertisement. The former I have no problem with, but the latter I do. 

If a client expects you to be available at the drop of a hat or is rude when you explain that you are not available, you have every right to be frustrated. (I'm putting aside your explicit instruction to book with you in advance for the moment.) That person is just rude. However, your comment that a client's work schedule or other plans "has nothing to do with [you]" is just as dismissive of their time as you claim they are of yours. Of course clients can be flaky, not serious, cancel at the last minute, etc., but as others in this thread have said, sometimes it really is the case that you don't know when you'll be finished with work such that you can't plan ahead. Sometimes you finish work, a work out, or get to the end of the day and realize you could really use a massage. There is nothing wrong with reaching out to a provider and politely inquiring whether they are available, assuming their profiles do not indicate otherwise. I think you should also keep in mind that many providers do make last minute appointments and some encourage them. You are not operating in a vacuum. 

I think it's also worth remembering that providers can be just as unreliable. I have had my fair share of providers who cancel an appointment booked in advance at the last moment or do not respond when I try to confirm on the day of the appointment. In the same way you screen new clients, I generally do not book new providers in advance for this very reason. I have providers I see regularly and I will book up to a week in advance with them, but for someone I have not met previously, I'll most likely reach out in the morning for an appointment later in the day or if their profile list them as "Available Now," I'll try to book something within a few hours. I am always polite and write "Sorry for the last minute request..." or "I see that your profile says that you are available now. . ."  

The above being said, if your profile specifically requests bookings in advance, then the client is put on notice. There really is no excuse in that case and if they failed to fully read your profile, that is still on them. I'm sure that would be annoying for you and I don't blame you. 

[Jamie21]

29 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

@Jamie21– I’m not an escort, so I’m going to be asked less to go on vacation with a client from work, but of those clients who would likely feel comfortable enough taking me on vacation with them, if I did go with them on vacation – paid by them or by me – I wouldn’t consider going along on vacation with them work. And to be clear: I am comped primarily for my time with these people.

Is escorting that strict about being with someone who’s not a friend that it’s work? Or if money is sometimes transacted for services rendered that every interaction is work? Serious question.

Well yes if you’re not an escort then going on holiday with someone, whether or not they paid for you, wouldn’t feel like work. Unless while you’re there with them they ask you to do your professional work. Assume you’re a lawyer. Clients pay for your time and expertise. They invite you on holiday. On the beach they ask you legal questions and expect you to exercise your professional judgment in answering them. You’re at work then aren’t you? They’ll expect you to answer, given they’ve paid for your “holiday”. What’s the difference between taking a sex worker and asking him for a massage or sex session…he’s at work then isn’t he?

I can’t speak for all sex workers but to me, if I’m being paid for my time which includes sexual activity then it’s work. Even if that’s happening while on holiday. He’s paying me, directly or indirectly, therefore it’s work. 

[Cari]

I usually only splurge on massage when I actually need one and that's usually after getting my ass kicked by my trainer in a workout and often times I'll see if I can just foam roll and stretch then see how I feel the next day before I finally hit a provider up and see if they're available. I don't think I've ever hit anybody up an hour before a time I was requesting though, I'd say the least amount of time has been 3 hours. However if I'm traveling, I usually always hit the provider up a few days in advance to set something up, interestingly enough I've been flaked on more by providers when I do set something up a couple days in advance compared to setting something up a couple hours before...go figure 🤔

I wish more providers made it easy to book like this guy https://www.mensbodyworkla.com/appointments he also advertises on rentmasseur but you can just go to his website and see what days and times he's available instead of going back and fourth in text. There's a few other guys who do this and I always appreciate how quick and easy it is to schedule something with them.