Real Straight Guys.

[lonely_john]

1 hour ago, sjmuktop said:

My point exactly. They're not 100%, genuinely and exclusively straight. Thank you.

Even the "100% Straight" will do gay stuff under favourable circumstances: trust, alcohol, and 420.

BTW, "Straightness" is a religious/social construct. I'm too lazy to find the study right now but it's demonstrated that all humans are essentially bisexual.

Before Christianity, same sex relationships were common currency, and it wasn't strange for the alpha males of ancient Rome and Greece to have numerous male lovers.

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by lonely_john

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, 7829V said:

Yes, I've met several. Usually through work or friends. They identify as straight, but they are curious. All of them have been married with a woman or with girlfriends. All of them I've been the first guy they've approached for sex. Of course it starts slow (oral, kissing, massage, etc)... but after a few meetings it always ends up with anal (not always successfully) and they've always been the bottom. Works for me 😉

Thanks for sharing. Prob not straight guys but no doubt flexible guys in middle of the spectrum. In my experience straight guys are typically oral tops cuz it requires little to no effort. When someone tells me about "straight guys" who kiss and bottom i kinda feel that is something else.

Edited July 30, 2021 by studchaser

[studchaser]

2 hours ago, lonely_john said:

Even the "100% Straight" will do gay stuff under favourable circumstances: trust, alcohol, and 420.

BTW, "Straightness" is a religious/social construct. I'm too lazy to find the study right now but it's demonstrated that all humans are essentially bisexual.

Before Christianity, same sex relationships were common currency, and it wasn't strange for the alpha males of ancient Rome and Greece to have numerous male lovers.

 

John dont waste your time its all gonna fall on deaf ears. Some gays think in a narrow minded way because thats all they have had access to. You have to actually experience what you and I have to know otherwise or else how would you know? No matter what you show or say they will have the quick retort of " he wasnt actually straight to begin with". In other words all these bad ass inmates the whole prison is scared of who got ppl washing their clothes are just undercover gays who came into jail with 6 kids and 3 baby mothers because a gay wouldnt stop at one to make his point. 

[marylander1940]

where are all the "gender fluid" guys in this thread... how come nobody is offended about several posters saying that sexuality fits in certain categories? 

[lonely_john]

3 minutes ago, studchaser said:

Thanks for sharing. Prob not straight guys but no doubt flexible guys in middle of the spectrum. In my experience straight guys are typically oral tops cuz it requries little to no effort. When someone tells me about "straight guys" who kiss and bottom i kinda feel that is something else.

Yah, those are likely gay or bi men marketing themselves as straight. Why? Because they say: Oh, if you want to top me that's going to co$t more.

My experience has been the same. Straight guys will always prefer to receive oral if that's all that's required from them, and if they are asked to top they will (try to) do it for a good incentive, but sucking or getting fucked, that's a no-go.

Surprisingly, I have found straight providers who are not to adverse to kissing, they will do it on a limited basis, at least to find more clients but it definitely won't be the type of french kiss you get with a gay or bi guy.

There is a caveat: There are some straight guys who fall in drug addiction and will do (almost) ANYTHING to feed their vice.

[lonely_john]

9 minutes ago, studchaser said:

John dont waste your time its all gonna fall on deaf ears. Some gays think in a narrow minded way because thats all they have had access to. You have to actually experience what you and I have to know otherwise or else how would you know? No matter what you show or say they will have the quick retort of " he wasnt actually straight to begin with". In other words all these bad ass inmates the whole prison is scared of who got ppl washing their clothes are just undercover gays who came into jail with 6 kids and 3 baby mothers because a gay wouldnt stop at one to make his point. 

I think they had a bad experience with a straight man, and from there they generalized and developed a hate for straight men. I've had bad experiences with straight men too, but that hasn't stopped my desire for them.

There are good and bad as in everything. And I'm not homophobic or indulge in self-loathing. I have had great sex with MASCULINE bisexual and gay men. If I want to have sex with a horny available straight man it will be because I love a diverse menu and I find him attractive, not because I hate myself.

[studchaser]

3 minutes ago, lonely_john said:

I think they had a bad experience with a straight man, and from there they generalized and developed a hate for straight men. I've had bad experiences with straight men too, but that hasn't stopped my desire for them.

There are good and bad as in everything. And I'm not homophobic or indulge in self-loathing. I have had great sex with MASCULINE bisexual and gay men. If I want to have sex with a horny available straight man it will be because I love a diverse menu and I find him attractive, not because I hate myself.

It could be but I genuinely believe they believe what they say they believe. Its kinda like if someone said i saw xyz animal and zoologists say that animal is extinct only the ppl who saw that animal will know that they saw the animal. Sex is very intimate. Back when xtube and pornhub was at its zenith aobut 5 years ago. I would see certain users who did hidden cams(i dont condone it) but you could just tell by the kinds of guys they were getting that they knew how to find straight guys. Then you had users who would claim they were seducing straight guys and just roll your eyes cuz when you saw the mannerisms you knew it was just a ploy. 

I know we are gonna act like all the marines Bobby Garcia seduced for Awol marines were all just undercover closet gays or confused when he seduced thousands at camp pendleton. Every single one of them fit the typical profile of an alpha male straight man. There is no website that exists now where they bill the guys as staight and all the guys appear to be straight. NONE!!!!!! YOU HEAR ME???? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!! A couple of crossdressers out in newport rhode island almost seduced the entire military in New England to the point Franklin D. Roosevelt who was not yet president had to get involved and their was a trial to stop the crossdressers from blowing military guys. 

Also gay men who travel internationally know alot of these definitions dont exist. In latin america and middle east some of the most homophobic countries have the most homosexuality and alot of the men who fit the top role genuinely dont see themself as gay. They divorce the act of using a mouth or rectum from the person it belongs to. Once they reach a certain age they all but abandon those activities and move on with their life. I dont know why some ppl act so dense about this. You would think based on some of the posters age they would actually know this. In every era and culture there is anecdotal evidence of this. But like I said its a secret society not made for everyone to know.

 

 

 

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, lonely_john said:

Even the "100% Straight" will do gay stuff under favourable circumstances: trust, alcohol, and 420.

BTW, "Straightness" is a religious/social construct. I'm too lazy to find the study right now but it's demonstrated that all humans are essentially bisexual.

Before Christianity, same sex relationships were common currency, and it wasn't strange for the alpha males of ancient Rome and Greece to have numerous male lovers.

 

Lol John i dunno if these particular vids help the case but I will say gladiators were often pursued by wealthy gay  Roman nobles. Just like today that is the same thing transposed to the 21 century. Wealthy gay men of means go for modern gladiators(football players,wrestlers, marines etc). Some call it self hate but not everyone can get off on "dominant alpha masc jocks" who are wannabe actors and backup dancers in waiting with a planet fitness membership who discovered rentmen. That is not gonna satiate my hunger. When I want steak dont give me soy.

Edited July 30, 2021 by studchaser

[Cure69]

This is all such an interesting topic. I identify as "straight", I'm married and have a daughter. I've always watched gay porn. Earlier this month I had my first bottom experience (but always dreamed of bottoming) and even now, I never perceive myself topping a guy, ever, but I'm now actively looking for more experiences as a bottom "straight" guy. I also learned I'm really into sucking cock.

I agree with someone else on this topic that "straight" and/or "bi" labels are a little strange. I can't explain why I enjoy sucking a man's cock and bottoming for him but at the same I don't see myself kissing him or being interested in some relationship.

Again, this is a great topic.

[jeezifonly]

Such mystery around Trade

Will he _______ your__________?
Will he let you _________him? Will you be the very first to get him to ____________?

Will he make you guess in the moment if he likes to_________or not? Do they usually bring their own__________? 

So many questions about potential hires. Least important is whether he’s straight…which you could tell in a minute btw because straight guys NEVER bring their own anything. 😂
 

Assign whatever  orientation label you like - have fun! Your bought-and-paid label washes off the moment he’s texting with his next client.

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by jeezifonly

[jeezifonly]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

where are all the "gender fluid" guys in this thread... how come nobody is offended about several posters saying that sexuality fits in certain categories? 

Sorry but I am not going anywhere near gender fluids until everyone is vaxxed…

[studchaser]

11 minutes ago, Cure69 said:

This is all such an interesting topic. I identify as "straight", I'm married and have a daughter. I've always watched gay porn. Earlier this month I had my first bottom experience (but always dreamed of bottoming) and even now, I never perceive myself topping a guy, ever, but I'm now actively looking for more experiences as a bottom "straight" guy. I also learned I'm really into sucking cock.

I agree with someone else on this topic that "straight" and/or "bi" labels are a little strange. I can't explain why I enjoy sucking a man's cock and bottoming for him but at the same I don't see myself kissing him or being interested in some relationship.

Again, this is a great topic.

Thanks for sharing Cure. For all intents and purposes I wouldnt consider you straight. Maybe bisexual or falling somewhere on the spectrum. Desire and attraction is part of the equation in my determination of whether a guy is straight.  I tend to survey my guys before I make that determination so by the time I wanna make a move they havent had the opportunity to "put on". I dont just rely on what someone puts on a profie somewhere. 

 

I think the elusivesness of these guys is what sparks the interest. For many they are hiding in plain sight and for others they dont even exist. What a conundrum.

[studchaser]

14 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

Such mystery around the Great Straights…

Will he _______ your__________?
Will he let you _________him? Will you be the very first to get him to ____________?

Will he make you guess in the moment if he likes to_________or not? Do they usually bring their own__________? 

So many questions about straight guys. Least important is whether he’s straight…which you could tell in a minute because straight guys NEVER bring their own anything. 😂
 

Assign the orientation label you like - your bought-and-paid label washes off the moment he’s texting with his next client.

 

unless he doesnt have clients and hes hanging on the corner with a dime bag or trying to sell a knock off watch so he can get  enough money to buy diapers. Doesnt know what top or bottom means and is shocked that someone would offer him money to do xyz. Does it and thinks this aint so bad and you see a call at 1am that i am broke again. 

[jeezifonly]

36 minutes ago, studchaser said:

unless he doesnt have clients and hes hanging on the corner with a dime bag or trying to sell a knock off watch so he can get  enough money to buy diapers. Doesnt know what top or bottom means and is shocked that someone would offer him money to do xyz. Does it and thinks this aint so bad and you see a call at 1am that i am broke again. 

No, I don’t see that call. Because I wouldn’t have invited him to get into my car in the first place.
As much as we complain about the provider sites, I think we’re actually all safer not trying to hire off the street. 

Regardless of marketing, the Proof is in the Putting…

[+ WilliamM]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

where are all the "gender fluid" guys in this thread... how come nobody is offended about several posters saying that sexuality fits in certain categories? 

Do you mean bisexual?   Or actually "gender fluid?"

[+ WilliamM]

7 hours ago, studchaser said:

I know from a marketing standpoint "straight" has lost its meaning. However i have come to find out that many super diacrete under the radar clients have said they ONLY book what in essence are unknown straight guys. Released military, ex athletes in hypermaculine sports(football,wrestling,hockey etc) , laid off blue collar,and even ex cons readjusting. Is anyone on here aware of these types of under the radar type guys? Or have you met men on sites that fit the bill?

 

As much as this site is a beacon for information it seems more fitting for your garden variety gay provider that rarely fits the profile of that "exclusive,elusive,untouchable" type. Those guys are out there and want to do this but there is no effort or forums dedicated to it. Anyone have any info or know any resources?

Released military men are "super masculine?" I thought you posted a while ago about the pleasure of hanging around military bases.

No problem, except I spent two years in the Army. Far, far less sexy than you apparently think 

[studchaser]

12 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

No, I don’t see that call. Because I wouldn’t have invited him to get into my car in the first place.
As much as we complain about the provider sites, I think we’re actually all safer not trying to hire off the street. 

Regardless of marketing, the Proof is in the Putting…

Oh of course the sites are safer and that is why many gay men dont have stories of those true anecdotes the few in the know have. Only the ppl who have been on the moon know they have been on the moon. Just the same way only the real guys who have been with guys  that are true blue straight alpha male types will know.. And because of much obfuscation its easy to doubt them i.e. people mislabeling themselves for marketing, delusional gays allowing themself to  be decieved etc. It all just blends together. 

[studchaser]

3 minutes ago, WilliamM said:

Released military men are "super masculine?" I thought you posted a while ago about the pleasure of hanging around military bases.

No problem, except I spent two years in the Army. Far, far less sexy than you apparently think 

William i dunno about ur barracks but the military men i know are hot thank you very much. I wont tell you you are wrong maybe you were in the ugly barracks. Hopefully they misclassified you.

[+ WilliamM]

6 minutes ago, studchaser said:

William i dunno about ur barracks but the military men i know are hot thank you very much. I wont tell you you are wrong maybe you were in the ugly barracks. Hopefully they misclassified you.

My experience was I saw these hot men every day either at work or in my  barrack. The hot guy I liked the most was a friend. He eventually said "Perhaps you like me too much!"

(I  have never posted the paragraph above before.,,,)

That's the reality. We did hitch a ride to the Saigon Zoo to feed the animals & did many other things together: movies, visit librariies

[lonely_john]

1 hour ago, studchaser said:

wannabe actors and backup dancers in waiting with a planet fitness membership who discovered rentmen.

Another anecdote. I've visited Planet Fitness to watch the blue collar muscular straight men that go there. A feast to the eyes.

[lonely_john]

1 hour ago, Cure69 said:

I can't explain why I enjoy sucking a man's cock and bottoming for him but at the same I don't see myself kissing him or being interested in some relationship.

You are discovering yourself. Don't stress yourself out thinking of labels, what you are or aren't. Time will tell.

[jeezifonly]

Heterosexual, bi, and homosexual as terms to define individuals are useless in a way, because one cannot prove the negative needed for distinction. 
Behavior is all we have. And whether in his bed or yours, the interaction counts as homo-havior. 
 

“on the right drugs, anyone can be had” Why do I want to give credit to Tallulah Bankhead for that clever, old (and astute) saying? Now, we no longer condone any such practice to change an outcome through chemical manipulation of independent behavior, do we, Mr.Jello-guy?

 

[jeezifonly]

25 minutes ago, lonely_john said:

You are discovering yourself. Don't stress yourself out thinking of labels, what you are or aren't. Time will tell.

Time will tell. I won’t say a word.

[+ nycman]

I’m old enough to know that sexuality is an amazingly complex thing.
It’s as varied and changing as the waves on the ocean.
Some of the unexpected delights I’ve had you wouldn’t believe me if I told you.

Straight men who bottom but don’t kiss.
Men who get blown but don’t touch.
Men who want to be treated like a female.
Men who want to fuck men (gasp)
Men who only like to lick boots
Men who have barbershop fantasies 
Men who like foreskin fucking 
Men who like toys
Men who hate toys. 

Kinsey 0-6….are you fucking kidding?
Kinsey 0-1,000 still wouldn’t even come close to classifying man’s sexual diversity.
Thank fucking god! Now, put down your pencils and notebooks and get out there and enjoy. 
There are some amazing men out there just dying to experience you.

Straight?….that’s about one out of 165 sexual traits that I care about.
And it’s by far one of the least important….trust me. 

[robberbaron4u]

Real Straight Guys wear Jockey brand briefs, and, invariably they suffer under the delusion that 2xist has something to do with Albert Einstein, not underwear.