Plant-based "meat"

[samhexum]

I'm sure I'd prefer meat-based plants, but I've been curious to try some, especially since I've sent for several coupons for free items.

 

Tonight I tried my first... INCOGMEATO (by Morningstar Farms) 'chicken' nuggets. Slightly spicy (for flavor, I guess), but edible and completely worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't ever buy them, though. I eat my nuggets plain, but these would probably better if I liked ketchup or a dipping sauce.

 

I also have their 'burgers', as well as 'burgers' from LightLife to try, but they can be refrigerated or frozen for quite a while, so no rush. I have 2 more coupons, so maybe I'll see what other 'meat' products INCOGMEATO offers.

[+ honcho]

I had the burger king "impossible burger" and it was totally convincing. However, given the extra fat content, salt, calories and cost, I think it's more detrimental to my health than a regular whopper and will pass until the price drops to less than a regular whopper.

[samhexum]

I had the burger king "impossible burger" and it was totally convincing. However, given the extra fat content, salt, calories and cost, I think it's more detrimental to my health than a regular whopper and will pass until the price drops to less than a regular whopper.

You know, speaking of whoppers, a clever vegetarian or vegan mega-hung escort could advertise that he offers a plant-based whopper with special sauce. Or if he's afraid of copyright infringement penalties, he could just say plant-based meat with cream filling.

[Danny-Darko]

I'm sure I'd prefer meat-based plants, but I've been curious to try some, especially since I've sent for several coupons for free items.

 

Tonight I tried my first... INCOGMEATO (by Morningstar Farms) 'chicken' nuggets. Slightly spicy (for flavor, I guess), but edible and completely worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't ever buy them, though. I eat my nuggets plain, but these would probably better if I liked ketchup or a dipping sauce.

 

I also have their 'burgers', as well as 'burgers' from LightLife to try, but they can be refrigerated or frozen for quite a while, so no rush. I have 2 more coupons, so maybe I'll see what other 'meat' products INCOGMEATO offers.

 

I find the Morning Star regular plain Chick'n Nuggets far better than the spicy ones. I like spicy food but their regular ones are better. I do use ketchup or make some sort of dipping sauce sometimes. My favorite are the Breakfast Sausage Links and Sausage Patties. ? They taste really good and pretty close to the real thing. Half my life I ate Kosher and the other half was a Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian who also kept Kosher. Now for about the past ten years I eat anything I like but still love those fake sausages!

[samhexum]

I eat anything I like but still love those fake sausages!

 

And some real ones, too, if all the stories I've heard about you in back alleys are true ???

[stop]

Isn’t all meat plant based? Otherwise they would have mad cow disease no?

[MikeBiDude]

Nice previous discussion here, 6 pages worth ?

[marylander1940]

I'm sure I'd prefer meat-based plants, but I've been curious to try some, especially since I've sent for several coupons for free items.

 

Tonight I tried my first... INCOGMEATO (by Morningstar Farms) 'chicken' nuggets. Slightly spicy (for flavor, I guess), but edible and completely worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't ever buy them, though. I eat my nuggets plain, but these would probably better if I liked ketchup or a dipping sauce.

 

I also have their 'burgers', as well as 'burgers' from LightLife to try, but they can be refrigerated or frozen for quite a while, so no rush. I have 2 more coupons, so maybe I'll see what other 'meat' products INCOGMEATO offers.

 

7 billion and counting... we have to grow food faster, cheaper and healthier too.

[samhexum]

7 billion and counting...

McDonald's is long past that figure. ?

[Danny-Darko]

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

I had the burger king "impossible burger" and it was totally convincing. However, given the extra fat content, salt, calories and cost, I think it's more detrimental to my health than a regular whopper and will pass until the price drops to less than a regular whopper.

 

Not to mention but there was an article citing the “meat” had extreme levels of estrogen as well.

 

Pizza Hut has also come out with an impossible sausage pizza. I’m just not a fan of vegan meats though. When I want vegetables, I gladly add them to my burgers and pizza.

[samhexum]

I find the Morning Star regular plain Chick'n Nuggets far better than the spicy ones. I like spicy food but their regular ones are better.

 

I don't think I have the spicy ones (at least nothing says they are). I just don't like spicy anything at all, so what's just their flavoring could be, to me, a little spicy.

 

I like my chicken nuggets crispy, so I made another batch (2 batches finished the bag) and let them bake for twice the instructed time. Better.

 

For sure... TOTALLY worth trying for free.

Edited December 23, 2020 by samhexum

[VictorXX]

If it’s fried, usually not amazing for your health

[CalTec]

 

This guy is fun to watch, and these are actually pretty tasty. Lions mane burgers are also amazing. With the mushroom sub, I don't crave burgers or animal protein at all anymore.

[samhexum]

I don't crave burgers or animal protein at all anymore.

However, I'm sure some animals crave your protein. Bears and otters for example.

[samhexum]

Something I'd eat instead of beef if the price ever came down would be bison.

 

Bison meat has fewer calories and less cholesterol than chicken, fish, or ostrich. Bison has 40% more protein than beef so you can eat 1/3 less volume and still come away satisfied. Ground bison is high in vitamin B6 17% DV, B12 35% DV and niacin 25%

 

Beef,ground, cooked 3 oz. 85% lean, 15% fat Calories 210 Total Fat 12 grams (6 grams saturated fat) Good protein with 21 grams, which is 43% of the daily value (DV) in a 2,000- calorie diet.

[CalTec]

However, I'm sure some animals crave your protein. Bears and otters for example.

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[CalTec]

Something I'd eat instead of beef if the price ever came down would be bison.

 

Bison meat has fewer calories and less cholesterol than chicken, fish, or ostrich. Bison has 40% more protein than beef so you can eat 1/3 less volume and still come away satisfied. Ground bison is high in vitamin B6 17% DV, B12 35% DV and niacin 25%

 

Beef,ground, cooked 3 oz. 85% lean, 15% fat Calories 210 Total Fat 12 grams (6 grams saturated fat) Good protein with 21 grams, which is 43% of the daily value (DV) in a 2,000- calorie diet.

When I used to eat bison, I'd pitch with a few friends to buy an animal and have it butchered with the meat divided between us. There was a LOT of meat. Maybe that's something you might want to consider if you have that option near you? The thought of that now makes me sick, but it was good at the time.

[Luv2play]

If it’s fried, usually not amazing for your health

I make a distinction between deep fried and fried. I avoid the former but often eat fried foods using olive oil in the frying pan and then frying (or sautéing, as the French call it) whatever, from eggs, to meat and fish to vegetables. It’s Mediterranean style cooking and very healthy.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

we eat plant based 95% or more of the time.

 

Yes some of the meat replacement items are delicious. In Australia we get a chicken tender type product, the taste and texture is exactly like the original.

 

All you can do is buy one, try it and see how you go.

 

I can tell you that I feel fabulous eating plant based and the weight is slowly being released.

 

All of my blood work, blood glucose HB1AC and cholesterol readings have returned to the healthy range within weeks .

 

If we go out to dinner or get invited to someones place, I will eat meat, I just choose a healthier option.

[marylander1940]

If it’s fried, usually not amazing for your health

 

Yes but sometimes frying something is the way to ad necessary calories to complete a meal

 

I do agree with you that with our sedentary lifestyle most of the times is not the right choice.

[CalTec]

we eat plant based 95% or more of the time.

 

Yes some of the meat replacement items are delicious. In Australia we get a chicken tender type product, the taste and texture is exactly like the original.

 

All you can do is buy one, try it and see how you go.

 

I can tell you that I feel fabulous eating plant based and the weight is slowly being released.

 

All of my blood work, blood glucose HB1AC and cholesterol readings have returned to the healthy range within weeks .

 

If we go out to dinner or get invited to someones place, I will eat meat, I just choose a healthier option.

 

 

That's awesome to hear! I also feel great eating 95% plant/fungi based! Once the ingredients and overall nutritional standards are a bit more refined (less sodium, etc) it will be a definite contender in the alternative meat space. Do you have Yves brand in Aus? Love the veggie ground round for taco night

[samhexum]

Impossible Foods is chopping its wholesale prices for the second time in less than a year as demand for its fake meat soars, the company said.

 

The latest cut will slice 15 percent off the cost of the Redwood City, California, company’s plant-based patties and sausages — a reduction the company is asking distributors to pass along to supermarkets and restaurants that sell its products.

 

Impossible Foods, which burst onto the food scene with patties that taste and even “bleed” like real meat, has made it its mission to displace sales of regular beef. But Impossible Foods’ burger patties are still about a buck more than regular chopped beef, which sells for about $2 per pound.

 

The latest cuts, which follow a 15 percent price reduction in March, makes Impossible Foods’ meat less expensive — at about $6.80 per pound — than the $9 per pound for premium grass-fed, organic beef for the first time, company spokeswoman, Rachel Konrad told The Post.

 

“We experienced skyrocketing growth in 2020, which allowed us to go into high production and to cut our per unit costs,” Konrad said.

 

The new prices will be in effect everywhere in the US and in Canada and Asia by the end of this month.

 

Demand for plant-based meats have increased dramatically during the pandemic, in part, because of meat shortages, but also because consumers became more health conscious and saw plant-based foods as a more healthy choice, experts said.

 

Impossible Foods’ publicly held rival, Beyond Meat, notched a 69 percent sales increase in the second quarter to $113 million.

 

A year ago, Impossible Foods was available for purchase in 150 grocery stores and today is sold in 17,000 supermarkets, including Walmart, Target, Kroger. In December Costco began a pilot in 45 stores in California, Konrad said.

 

The privately held company’s products are also sold in national restaurants like Burger King, which introduced the Impossible Whopper in 2019, boosting customer traffic by nearly 20 percent in the first restaurants to offer it in St. Louis.

 

“Our stated goal since Impossible Foods’ founding has always been to drive down prices through economies of scale, reach price parity and then undercut the price of conventional ground beef from cows,” the company’s chief executive and founder, Patrick Brown said in a statement.

[wsc]

I have an odd brain at times, or maybe just a one-track mind. The first thing I thought of when I read the thread title was, Tarzan in a tree.

We now return to our regular program, already in progress.

[samhexum]

Beyond Meat, Impossible Foods bring plant-based chicken nuggets to packed market

Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods found success with realistic plant-based burgers. Now, they’re hoping to replicate that in the fast-growing but crowded market for plant-based chicken nuggets.

Beyond Meat said Monday that its new tenders, made from fava beans, will go on sale in US groceries in October. Walmart, Jewel-Osco and Harris Teeter will be among the first to offer them.

Impossible Foods began selling its soy-based nuggets this month at Walmart, Kroger, Albertsons and other groceries. They’ll be in 10,000 stores by later this year.

The rival startups, both based in California, helped redefine what plant-based burgers could be. Beyond burgers were the first to be sold in grocery aisles next to conventional meat in 2016; Impossible burgers joined them a few years later.

But this time, Beyond and Impossible will be stacked in freezers already bursting with plant-based chicken options. More than 50 brands of plant-based nuggets, tenders and cutlets are already on sale in US stores, according to the Good Food Institute, which tracks plant-based brands.

Some, like Morningstar Farms and Quorn, have been making plant-based meat for decades. But Beyond and Impossible have also spawned a host of imitators making realistic products marketed to omnivores, not just vegans and vegetarians. Fifteen percent of those 50 brands were new to the US market in 2020, like Nuggs, from New York startup Simulate, and California’s Daring Foods.

They’re all trying to grab a slice of the plant-based market, which is still dwarfed by the conventional meat market but growing fast. US sales of frozen, plant-based chicken tenders and nuggets jumped 29 percent, to $112 million, in the 52 weeks ending Aug. 28, according to Nielsen IQ. Sales of conventional frozen tenders and nuggets rose 17% to $1.1 billion in the same period.

Globally, retail sales of meat substitutes are expected to grow 2% to 4.6 million metric tons between 2021 and 2022, according to the market research firm Euromonitor. Processed animal meat sales are expected to stay flat in the same period, at 18.9 million metric tons.

Tom Rees, an industry manager with Euromonitor, said plant-based meat sales were already growing before the coronavirus hit. In Euromonitor surveys, nearly a quarter of consumers worldwide say they are limiting meat intake for health reasons.

But the pandemic gave plant-based meat a boost as consumers looked for new things to cook at home. Rees said meat shortages and coronavirus outbreaks at meat production facilities also made consumers think twice about the animal meat market.

Meat or no meat, breaded nuggets aren’t exactly a health food. One serving of Beyond’s chicken tenders have 12 grams of fat, 450 milligrams of sodium, 11 grams of protein and 210 calories. Impossible’s nuggets have 10 grams of fat, 320 milligrams of sodium, 10 grams of protein and 200 calories. By comparison, a similar size serving of Pilgrim’s chicken nuggets contains 14 grams of fat, 10 grams of protein, 460 milligrams of sodium and 220 calories.

Impossible Foods Vice President of Product Innovation Celeste Holz-Schietinger said it was important to start with plant-based burgers because beef production is a bigger contributor to climate change. But Impossible spent the past year developing the plant-based tenders as part of a goal is to replace all animal agriculture with more sustainable alternatives by 2035.

Beyond Meat has been experimenting with chicken for even longer. The El Segundo, California-based company launched chicken strips in 2012. But it pulled them from the market in 2019, citing the need to devote more manufacturing capacity to its burgers.

Unlike the new fava bean-based tenders, Beyond’s burgers are made with pea protein. Beyond President and CEO Ethan Brown said the company has spent more than a decade researching various protein sources and their attributes and doesn’t want to limit itself to just one.

Dariush Ajami, Beyond’s chief innovation officer, said mimicking the fibrous texture and fat distribution in chicken was the biggest challenge with the new tenders. The company is still far from perfecting a plant-based chicken breast or a marbled steak, but has 200 scientists and engineers working on it, he said.

“The goal is to reduce that gap between our product and animal meat,” he said.

There’s also a price gap. Beyond Meat’s suggested retail price for an 8-ounce package is $4.99, while Impossible’s 13.5-ounce package costs $7.99. Tyson Foods sells a 2-pound bag of chicken nuggets at Walmart for $5.76.

But it’s clear many people are eager to try plant-based foods. In July, Panda Express quickly sold out of Beyond Meat orange chicken in a trial run at locations in Los Angeles and New York. Panda Express says it’s exploring a wider rollout of the product, which was specially developed for the brand.

Jasmine Alkire recently tried Beyond Meat orange chicken at a Panda Express in Los Angeles. Alkire became a vegetarian seven years ago, but the Beyond chicken tasted similar to the orange chicken she grew up eating.

“It was flavorful and didn’t have a weird aftertaste or off-putting texture,” she said.

For now, Beyond Meat has several advantages. It has partnerships with big brands like McDonald’s and KFC and has already opened its first manufacturing plant in China, where Impossible’s products aren’t yet sold.

Impossible is still waiting for regulatory approval to sell its burgers in Europe and China because they contain genetically modified ingredients. But Impossible’s chicken doesn’t contain those same ingredients. Both companies plan to sell their chicken overseas.

Impossible is confident that consumers will gravitate to its nuggets. In company taste tests, it found that most consumers preferred its product to actual chicken.

“It’s better for you, its better for the environment and it tastes better than the animal,” said Impossible Foods President Dennis Woodside. “So we think that’s a pretty strong value proposition.”

Other brands insist they’ll defend their turf. Morningstar Farms, the current plant-based poultry sales leader in the US, launched a separate brand called Incogmeato in 2019 with products that closely replicate meat.

Sara Young, the general manager of plant-based proteins at Kellogg Co., which owns Morningstar, said the brand has the biggest product portfolio and the highest repeat-buyer rate in the plant-based category.

“We’ve been at this for a long time,” she said.