Do I Need to Disclose My Race?

[The_Impeccable_G]

I guess I’d have to die. I mean, I’m entitled to my preferences, right?

 

I’m trying to point out how absurd the idea of “preferences should go unchallenged” is…argumentum ad absurdum – you’re right. It’s lunacy to categorically discount an entitle swath of the population for superficial reasons. We have our attractions, yes, but preferences are different. And acting like preferences don’t necessarily need examination or come with some level of inherited discrimination, in some circumstances, is myopic. Not all preferences are racism, but all racism is rooted in preferences.

Once again... You do not compare apples to apples. I do not need to be sexually attracted to my doctor, so I do not care if he is black or asian (not that there are many in my city ? ). But I have to be sexually attracted to my sexual partners and I am not sexually attracted to blacks and asians, so my sexual partners cannot be blacks and asians, therefore my sexual partners have to be caucasians. Pure logic.

 

Furthermore my sexual partners have to have many other attributes so I can be attracted to them. They have to be young, smooth, charming, witty, cultured, refined, polished, well mannered and the list goes on and on. So what I am trying to reiterate here is that race is a pixel of the whole picture of sexual attractiveness.

Edited August 5, 2020 by The_Impeccable_G

[Strafe13]

We get it. You discriminate on the basis of race in the selection of your sexual partners. You also seem to really like doing that, since you've gleefully joked about basking in your privilege. Some of us think that racial discrimination is a generally bad thing that should never be done intentionally, and that if we find ourselves unconsciously practicing it, this should, at a minimum, be cause for introspection. You think that racial discrimination is perfectly fine, at least in the context of personal relationships (presumably sexual and romantic ones, although you've never explicitly stated such a limit). So, you let yourself off the hook for engaging in this practice because, per your reasoning, it's either not a big deal or it's not something that we can change. I'd argue that most reasonable, compassionate, and fair-minded people think that those last two assumptions are B.S. excuses, but whatever ...

 

All of the above was really collateral, though, because this thread was started by a client of color, who wondered if he should disclose his race upfront in order to soften the blow of rejection from escorts who incorporate racial discrimination into their business models. Since the longstanding mantra on this forum has been that any escort worth a damn is a professional, this thread was supposed to be about discrimination in the provision of sex worker services. You're the one who made it all about yourself in an attempt to justify the supposedly "pure logic" of why your sexual partners "have to be caucasians" and "cannot be blacks and Asians." As if that somehow excuses escorts who categorically refuse to provide services to entire groups of people. Based on how you've explained your prejudices here, I think that most reasonable readers of this thread would conclude that it's for the best that black men and Asian men don't have to worry about being the objects of your affection.

[The_Impeccable_G]

We get it. You discriminate on the basis of race in the selection of your sexual partners. You also seem to really like doing that, since you've gleefully joked about basking in your privilege. Some of us think that racial discrimination is a generally bad thing that should never be done intentionally, and that if we find ourselves unconsciously practicing it, this should, at a minimum, be cause for introspection. You think that racial discrimination is perfectly fine, at least in the context of personal relationships (presumably sexual and romantic ones, although you've never explicitly stated such a limit). So, you let yourself off the hook for engaging in this practice because, per your reasoning, it's either not a big deal or it's not something that we can change. I'd argue that most reasonable, compassionate, and fair-minded people think that those last two assumptions are B.S. excuses, but whatever ...

 

All of the above was really collateral, though, because this thread was started by a client of color, who wondered if he should disclose his race upfront in order to soften the blow of rejection from escorts who incorporate racial discrimination into their business models. Since the longstanding mantra on this forum has been that any escort worth a damn is a professional, this thread was supposed to be about discrimination in the provision of sex worker services. You're the one who made it all about yourself in an attempt to justify the supposedly "pure logic" of why your sexual partners "have to be caucasians" and "cannot be blacks and Asians." As if that somehow excuses escorts who categorically refuse to provide services to entire groups of people. Based on how you've explained your prejudices here, I think that most reasonable readers of this thread would conclude that it's for the best that black men and Asian men don't have to worry about being the objects of your affection.

My sexual partners have to be white, young, very good looking, smart, and so on and so forth because I am not attracted to others. What do you not understand?

[+ Lucky]

I once thought that I was not attracted to Asians. In visiting San Francisco, I told my host that I wanted to go to Oil Can Harry's bar. Yes, I am dating myself. His reply was "yew, that's an Oriental bar."

Then I moved there and soon discovered that Asians were attracted to me. I could go to the End Up, where many Asians went, and find the handsomest guy and always get him to go home with me. Naturally I didn't want to let this go to waste, so my aversion to Asians soon changed, and it became a preference. I learned to love the smooth skin, the eyes, among other attributes, and the cultural differences. Soon hairy white guys bored me. I added Hispanics as they also had (usually) smooth skin and cultural differences. (It was a lot easier visiting Mexico than Bangkok.) So, tastes change. When the Ritch Street baths were in their heyday, I tried Blacks as well. I guess my point is: make the effort. You may be surprised.

[xyz48B]

What do you not understand?

I think what we don’t understand is how someone can be so myopic and pompous – or so vociferously discriminatory, in the strictest sense of the word as well as the broader sense.

[+ DynamicUno]

It's unfortunate that the OP's thread has been occupied, colonized actually, since page 2 by a white guy who just had to make it all about him and his feels. I hope the OP got at least something useful out of it.

[Strafe13]

It's unfortunate that the OP's thread has been occupied, colonized actually, since page 2 by a white guy who just had to make it all about him and his feels. I hope the OP got at least something useful out of it.

 

? at "occupied" and "colonized"

[RandyVue]

I don't think anyone should be shamed for having preferences. However, preferences are not the same as being discriminatory. I'm mostly into good looking, well dressed, muscular, masculine, black men with smooth skin and nice smiles. That said I generally am not drawn to Asian men, but I've seen some Asian men that I thought were very attractive. I'm generally not into white guys, but I've seen some white guys that I think are attractive. Generally not into Latin guys but I've come across some Latin dudes that I wouldn't turn away. So I would say my preference is Black men but I would never rule out an entire group and I think that makes the difference. As long as your preference isn't rooted in something nefarious like prejudices, stereotypes, or racism and it is purely based on attraction, then I see no problem.

 

With that being said, It does make you wonder when someone does rule out an entire group if there isn’t something nefarious at play. I’m not saying that there is, but I’m just saying that it does make you wonder.

Edited August 6, 2020 by RandyVue

[The_Impeccable_G]

I think what we don’t understand is how someone can be so myopic and pompous – or so vociferously discriminatory, in the strictest sense of the word as well as the broader sense.

Try harder and you might understand ?

 

By the way, I corrected my short sightedness years ago, so I am not myopic. And I had to lookup "vociferously" - thank you for a new word. ?

[robberbaron4u]

If Robert Sepulveda, Jr, is the object of your desire, yes.

[Monarchy79]

They have to be young, smooth, charming, witty, cultured, refined, polished, well mannered and

I think what we don’t understand is how someone can be so myopic and pompous – or so vociferously discriminatory, in the strictest sense of the word as well as the broader sense.

 

Easy answer....

 

People like @The_Incorrigible_G, take pride in his ways. It amplifies his pompous, Eurocentric, obnoxious, pseudo-elitist, attitude, which has been ingrained in his minuscule brain since he was just a little young twit, in prep-school.

 

His belief systems run through his blue veins, and every time he posts on these threads, calling people fat, or talking about who he dislikes (as if we care), it’s a false form of empowerment for him, and gives him a temporary satisfaction of feeling that he’s better than someone else, when in fact, he’s trying to overcompensate for his own shortcomings.

 

Most people who behave like he does online, fall under this description.

 

He’s basically a sociopathic, narcissistic, jerk, who uses these forums to further strengthen his cognitive dissonance, along with his delusions of grandeur....

 

This is why he talks so much about his obsession with young, skinny, model-ish, white twinks... because deep down in his limited psyche, he wishes he were one.

[The_Impeccable_G]

Easy answer....

 

People like @The_Incorrigible_G, take pride in his ways. It amplifies his pompous, Eurocentric, obnoxious, pseudo-elitist, attitude, which has been ingrained in his minuscule brain since he was just a little young twit, in prep-school.

 

His belief systems run through his blue veins, and every time he posts on these threads, calling people fat, or talking about who he dislikes (as if we care), it’s a false form of empowerment for him, and gives him a temporary satisfaction of feeling that he’s better than someone else, when in fact, he’s trying to overcompensate for his own shortcomings.

 

Most people who behave like he does online, fall under this description.

 

He’s basically a sociopathic, narcissistic, jerk, who uses these forums to further strengthen his cognitive dissonance, along with his delusions of grandeur....

 

This is why he talks so much about his obsession with young, skinny, model-ish, white twinks... because deep down in his limited psyche, he wishes he were one.

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