My Appointment vs Your Plans?

[marylander1940]

Interesting. Link? Just curious…

 

Let me see if I can find it.

 

Edit, here:

 

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/has-a-escort-ever-asked-you-not-to-post-a-review.97893/

 

@bigjoey post 6 answers the most common reason for such a request.

[coriolis888]

 

I still struggle to do this effectively...Even though I understand the concept.

 

 

Don't forget, practice makes perfect!

[maninsoma]

Let me see if I can find it.

 

Edit, here:

 

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/has-a-escort-ever-asked-you-not-to-post-a-review.97893/

 

@bigjoey post 6 answers the most common reason for such a request.

 

I've only ever hired two guys repeatedly over a period of years. One of them asked to be reviewed (I hadn't previously known about the HooBoy website that preceded Daddy's reviews). When I offered to review the other guy he told me he did not want to be reviewed because he only escorted occasionally during school breaks and did not want any online presence other than the occasional Craigslist ad he would place. I assume he found other men as enamored with him as I was since I never saw him advertising again after I had been hiring him for a few months. During his school breaks/visits home, he would pick up the phone to let me know he was in town and ask me if I wanted to get together again. I assume he had other regulars as well, but I never asked him.

[marylander1940]

I've only ever hired two guys repeatedly over a period of years. One of them asked to be reviewed (I hadn't previously known about the HooBoy website that preceded Daddy's reviews). When I offered to review the other guy he told me he did not want to be reviewed because he only escorted occasionally during school breaks and did not want any online presence other than the occasional Craigslist ad he would place. I assume he found other men as enamored with him as I was since I never saw him advertising again after I had been hiring him for a few months. During his school breaks/visits home, he would pick up the phone to let me know he was in town and ask me if I wanted to get together again. I assume he had other regulars as well, but I never asked him.

 

Hard to believe he made a living out of CL. I guess he was very hot and certainly a keeper but didn't feel like jeopardizing his future, he just wanted to pay his bills. Good choice!

 

@xyz48B I'm mentioning so you don't miss this post. After all you're the one who asked! ?

[maninsoma]

Hard to believe he made a living out of CL. I guess he was very hot and certainly a keeper but didn't feel like jeopardizing his future, he just wanted to pay his bills. Good choice!

 

@xyz48B I'm mentioning so you don't miss this post. After all you're the one who asked! ?

 

I think you missed the part about him being a student. He wasn't supporting himself by doing this any more than any other college student supports himself by having a part time job while in school. I assume that either he had student loans, grants, financial assistance from his family or all three of those things to help him cover his expenses. And even though his rate (at least with me) was on the very low end of the scale for escorts at the time, it was many multiples of the hourly rate that he would have earned at a part time retail job. His escorting income was likely just his "mad money."

 

You're definitely right that he was a keeper. I would have kept on hiring him had he continued working, but he stopped contacting me after he graduated and I respected his privacy by not contacting him as our previous understanding was always that he would contact me when he was available for a week or two and then I could decide whether I wanted to see him during that time. Of course I always did, sometimes more than once during his trips back home. I'm so glad that he let me take a nice shirtless photo of him after I had been hiring him for a couple of years because the photo he had used in his ad which I saved was deliberately so blurry that it was difficult to tell who was in the photo. I still occasionally look at the photo to remember the good times I had with him.

[marylander1940]

I think you missed the part about him being a student. He wasn't supporting himself by doing this any more than any other college student supports himself by having a part time job while in school. I assume that either he had student loans, grants, financial assistance from his family or all three of those things to help him cover his expenses. And even though his rate (at least with me) was on the very low end of the scale for escorts at the time, it was many multiples of the hourly rate that he would have earned at a part time retail job.

 

No, I didn't miss it... one more reason for him to be discreet. Paying bills, paying tuition, tomato/tomatoh... maybe he had a scholarship, who know, if escorting he was able to put himself through college must have been a long time ago.

 

Again @xyz48B is the one interested in the subject of folks who don't want to be review.... I'm not! Please go talk to him!

[MikeBiDude]

he told me he did not want to be reviewed because he only escorted occasionally during school breaks and did not want any online presence other than the occasional Craigslist ad he would place.

I think you missed the part about him being a student. He wasn't supporting himself by doing this any more than any other college student supports himself by having a part time job while in school

Some posters on the board don’t support the concept that there are a plethora of personalities and people that escort, and an equal plethora of ways they reach out via non-mainstream sites. It’s not all full time “pros” on “reputable” sites ? like Rentmen.

 

I’m glad you found a satisfying companion for a while!

[xyz48B]

Again @xyz48B is the one interested in the subject of folks who don't want to be review.... I'm not! Please go talk to him!

I was just curious...

[marylander1940]

I was just curious...

 

Read the link I sent you and if you want bump it.

[xyz48B]

Read the link I sent you and if you want bump it.

I didn’t “miss” the post. I was busy for a few hours. Thanks for the link. Like I said, I was just curious. Nothing more ??

[handiacefailure]

If we were dealing with a conventional product (or even a personal trainer such as you) versus an escort product that is illegal for both parties, I would somewhat agree with your prepayment requirement.

 

However, due to potential problems associated with the escort business, can you tell me how a client can maintain privacy if making a prepayment to an escort and also be assured that the prepayment would be honored by the person requesting the money?

 

While many meetings with escorts go well, many do not. Also, when dealing with rentmen advertisements, a huge portion of those ads are bogus. Sending advance money requests to those who advertise escort services is near equivalent to throwing money out the window.

 

Most forum members agree on it being a bad idea to make prepayments to escorts unless the escort is a known product.

+1. If an escort has in their ad they want a deposit I don't even bother with them. If they send me a message asking for a deposit, I stop responding. Like you said there are privacy issues but the main problem is only the escort is protected and not the client. The client is screwed if the escort doesn't show up or if the escort catfishes or has a pic that is a decade old.

[xyz48B]

While many meetings with escorts go well, many do not. Also, when dealing with rentmen advertisements, a huge portion of those ads are bogus. Sending advance money requests to those who advertise escort services is near equivalent to throwing money out the window.

I learned that the hard way.

[HotWhiteThirties]

This year, more than ever, escorts have given me some grief or guilt about booking appointments that interfere with their personal plans. For example, I have an appointment scheduled tonight, and the guy commented "I was supposed to go with my friends to Rehoboth this weekend" but we are meeting any way.

 

Is this just me or is it happening to other guys?

 

When people respond this way, they are usually trying to indirectly send a hint that an alternative time would be better and hope you might respond with, “If you’ve got plans tonight, tomorrow night is good as well.” Or something similar. Who doesn’t want to have their cake and eat it too? In this instance, going out with friends AND a paid meeting. Rather than say it directly, he threw a hint out there. Like any good business person, he prioritized the meeting with a client, I assume.

 

Could there be manipulation through guilt? Probably, but he’s probably learned that it’s safer to approach it the way he did than to say, “I’m unavailable...or can we do it another time?” Both equate to him telling you no and greater risk of losing the booking all together. At the end of the day, he wants the business and the friends will wait. Anyone who’s paid for their time is met with similar dilemmas regardless of the profession.

[Luv2play]

In the age of digital payments why don’t providers ask for a fee for booking or discount for pre-payment? I’m not an escort, but as a personal trainer I require payment in advance of a session and have a strict 24 hour cancellation policy.

Actually some escorts I have contacted on RM do ask for an electronic payment in the form of a deposit in advance when I am booking something a week or more in the future and it is a first encounter. I don’t mind at all and it gives me some security that the escort won’t flake as well. Only two times I had to cancel days before the appointment and in one case the escort gave me a credit (it was $200 deposit) and in the other case no such offer was made on the same amount. I eventually did see the former escort and he lived up to the credit arrangement he had offered.

[handiacefailure]

Something one of my favorite professors in college said was if you have to deal with a pain in the ass client something to remember is that a customer is the purpose of your business, not an interruption of it.

[xyz48B]

I eventually did see the former escort and he lived up to the credit arrangement he had offered.

I was burnt bad on that, partly my own fault, but I won’t make that mistake again. Deposits make me skittish.

[jeezifonly]

Some escorts have been offering great service for a few years, from which they have a great rep among a stable of devoted regular clients along with their personal referrals - that can make advertising and reviews non-essential to fulfill the income level they want. Sometimes this explains a 3-yr lag in reviews, along with non-responses. Ads are only discreet reminders to regulars, not for building business. Who wouldn’t like to be able to be a preferred regular client?? $$$

(This is how certain celebrities avoid leaks... lawyers and lovers, keep one of each on retainer.)

[sexymonk]

WOW! Talking about "attitude" ... these guys should be grateful for having clients especially at times like these. Bottom line it is very disrespectful and unprofessional. Let me guess, this particular provider wasn't a well-reviewed one here on this site...

I think that guy should have requested to reschedule. But the way he put the wording seems that he treats another human being as a doormat. He should have equally reschedule with his friend at first!

[stop]

Whenever an escort says something like that to me, I immediately apologize and insist they keep their original plans.

 

If they offer to change their plans, I categorically decline and insist they have fun.

 

Kill them with kindness and refuse to accept a guilt trip. Let it backfire.

 

I learned this lesson the hard way I told him to keep his other plans and tried to set up another night and he said no he needed the money. So when he came by it was meh because he kept talking about what he was supposed to be doing. I of course felt guilty that I was keeping him from his plans and at one point said hey why don’t we quit early so you could catch up with your friends and he said no no I need the money. It was meh

[+ DrownedBoy]

Anyone hit this one before?

 

I asked a Hispanic guy on Friendboy what times he's available. He tell me that he works "every day," He'll take a day off work. Then I tell him I can't make him lose money, but he replies that "he won't lose money," but is still willing to take off work. He's asking for $250 for 2 hours.

[+ RJD]

Anyone hit this one before?

 

I asked a Hispanic guy on Friendboy what times he's available. He tell me that he works "every day," He'll take a day off work. Then I tell him I can't make him lose money, but he replies that "he won't lose money," but is still willing to take off work. He's asking for $250 for 2 hours.

 

Never had it, but it makes sense. If he’s making $10/hr at his job, he’d probably have to work 30 hours to take home $250.

[+ DrownedBoy]

Never had it, but it makes sense. If he’s making $10/hr at his job, he’d probably have to work 30 hours to take home $250.

 

Would there be additional problems from him taking off work?

[+ RJD]

Would there be additional problems from him taking off work?

 

He’s the only person who can answer that question.

[Guest leftbench23]

To add onto my original post, I had a 7pm appointment with a provider last night for two hours, and he said he needed a few more minutes to get ready when I texted my arrival at 6:55. I said no problem since there was a Starbucks near by, but he did not text back saying he was ready until 7:30! I told him to never mind and walked away from the appointment!

[+ DrownedBoy]

To add onto my original post, I had a 7pm appointment with a provider last night for two hours, and he said he needed a few more minutes to get ready when I texted my arrival at 6:55. I said no problem since there was a Starbucks near by, but he did not text back saying he was ready until 7:30! I told him to never mind and walked away from the appointment!

 

If a guy's coming to me, I could forgive them being late. Not if I'm visiting them and made an effort to be punctual. Good response.