Have you ever been arrested while hiring a RentMan?

[Guest]

Are you the guy in your profile picture?

 

Yes I am, as I joked with someone else if I picked a pic of another guy why would I choose that one!

[marylander1940]

Yes I am, as I joked with someone else if I picked a pic of another guy why would I choose that one!

 

You should place an ad on RM, you'll do fine! ?

[sexymonk]

Guys

 

If Peter Hung says it happens - it happens. Peter will not speak out unless he knew what he's talking about

That is why if in Vegas just meet who are reliable. I meet @peterhung85 so nothing to worry!

[+ peterhung85]

It happens in many ways, shapes and forms, especially in Las Vegas. There is no other city in the USA where the activities of vice is so prevalent. Although they MOSTLY target the straight world, it happens plenty when they "go both ways" ... Typically, they do it all, so can't tell you how it goes down "typically". Female undercover officers sit at bars and try to pick you up (haven't heard of men doing it to other men) and male officers do the same thing to women. Vice, printing out hundreds of ads and dialing like there is no tomorrow. Using emails to set up dates, chat features, text messages. They really do it all.

 

They don't want to imprison you for this, but the county really needs the revenue that derives from it. That may be one of the reasons why someone (I have read it) who was the top offender in Las Vegas got arrested for solicitation over 130 times and only served jail time TWICE. It is all about the revenue!

 

When I visited a good client of mine and popped up my usual question of "so what brings you to town" he swiftly responded: "A court date".

 

...so turns out he hired a masseur online and it was vice. They arrested him and searched his room. Turns out he was in town with his ex boyfriend who happened to have drugs in the room. Later on the solicitation charge was dropped simply because the DA knew they had no case against him whatsoever (Vegas is very peculiar in that regards, vice needs to meet quotas and they care less about the "strength of the case"), but they ended up charging him with a much greater issue (possession of drugs) and the legal defense was rather costly for him.

 

As I said, Vegas is a special case in many ways when it comes to this line of work. No entrapment laws here, forget about local vs. foreign number, sometimes they go as far as dressing up as an Arab sheikh (actually it was in one of the episodes of cops), cheap room vs. big suite (virtually all hotels participate) and if you read the penal code, it is written in a very vague way that opens up to a lot of different ways of interpretation. Add to the mix that many people think solicitation is "all legit" here; spoiler alert: It is NOT!

 

Sadly, one of Daddy's golden rules of "know the law" doesn't necessarily protect you from an arrest, but it does protect you from convictions. There are certain guidelines you can implement for yourself to try to mitigate risk, but if LE wants you, they will have you (whether it is a legtimate arrest or not, they care less). I am not an attorney and the above one is not a legal advice, just my personal opinion and experience of 10+ years in Las Vegas, so consult an attorney to know how the law applies in your situation. End of fine-print

Edited June 20, 2020 by peterhung85

[Guest]

Thanks PeterHung for the great insight and advice!

[realeasymoney]

The only time I ever hired anybody in LV I had to go down to the hotel lobby to confirm he was a legit visitor. Kind of strange to ID somebody I'd never seen before.

[coriolis888]

The blackmailer may have a lot less to lose. I'm thinking of the head of BP, John Browne, whose escort became his boyfriend, then they broke up, and he was blackmailed for quite awhile. When he cut off the payments, the escort went public about him, and Browne felt obliged to step down from his super-lucrative job as head of BP. (I don't know what happened to the escort legally.)

 

 

You mentioned John Browne.

 

Blackmail is a bitch. It caused the end of his career at British Petroleum.

 

Here is an article that discusses the blackmail, the impact on Lord Browne, and his accomplishments since he left British Petroleum:

 

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-6770009/Twelve-years-quit-BP-scandal-gay-lover-Lord-Browne-speaks-out.html

[+ aeikaryoko]

I’ve only hired @peterhung85 in Vegas and will only hire him when in Vegas. Oh how I miss that beautiful man.

[Monarchy79]

In Vegas this is a phenomenon that occurs more often than anywhere else in the USA. (heck, this city is known for LE soliciting escorts on all platforms, as well as pose as escorts on FREE platforms). And yes, I know of very good clients as well as escorts in this city who have been arrested due to that. These are all sting operations by local LE.

 

Such a shame....

Had these cops used their investigative resources for better purposes, the fatalities caused by the Las Vegas shooter could have probably been prevented.

 

I’m literally visualizing this guy walking right past undercover cops with BAGS of artillery and assault weapons, while they are steaking-out escorts and call girls...

Edited June 20, 2020 by Monarchy79

[+ Just966]

Yes I am, as I joked with someone else if I picked a pic of another guy why would I choose that one!

 

Beause he is a hot looking guy @Woofiecmh !! And sure not first time you have heard it!

[sexymonk]

I’ve only hired @peterhung85 in Vegas and will only hire him when in Vegas. Oh how I miss that beautiful man.

You miss him same way that I miss him when not seeing him

[sexymonk]

Such a shame....

Had these cops used their investigative resources for better purposes, the fatalities caused by the Las Vegas shooter could have probably been prevented.

 

I’m literally visualizing this guy walking right past undercover cops with BAGS of artillery and assault weapons, while they are steaking-out escorts and call girls...

Well said and I can’t agree more! For those cops the easiest thing is to catch someone for traffic violations moving or non moving and slap tickets. And run after the legal aged, independent escorts and arrest them to show how great of a work they have done. On the other side they will neglect the real issues and don’t catch hard core criminals!

Edited June 20, 2020 by sexymonk

[jawjateck]

One way to weed out entrapment threats in the upfront communication: if your prospect is slow to respond, incoherent/unintelligible, and ignores your questions, he's definitely a generation 2020 provider.

[+ peterhung85]

Well said and I can’t agree more! For those cops the easiest thing is to catch someone for traffic violations moving or non moving and slap tickets. And run after the legal aged, independent escorts and arrest them to show how great of a work they have done. On the other side they will neglect the real issues and catch hard core criminals!

That is very sad and very true!

[Monarchy79]

Sidebar:

 

I don’t understand why anyone would even think of hiring in LV. It’s entirely too many free options for sex.

Entirely too many visitors, there with the sole purpose of hedonism.

[+ peterhung85]

Sidebar:

 

I don’t understand why anyone would even think of hiring in LV. It’s entirely too many free options for sex.

Entirely too many visitors, there with the sole purpose of hedonism.

 

Based on that logic, what's the point of hiring in NYC, LA, SF and most other big metropolitan cities?! Furthermore, Vegas doesn't have much of a gay life/scene...

[sexymonk]

Based on that logic, what's the point of hiring in NYC, LA, SF and most other big metropolitan cities?! Furthermore, Vegas doesn't have much of a gay life/scene...

Well said!!! I think getting too much adventurous is the problem. Don’t meet someone who is total stranger. It is not wise to go and swim in some random lake or river where crocodiles or alligators may be lurking!

[+ Coolwave35]

I was at a strip club doing a private with a 19 year old provider and his mom came to retrieve him. Apparently she tracked his iPhone to the sex club and was livid that he was there. He was mortified as he dressed and all I could muster was “don’t worry bud, this happens all the time. Don’t be embarrassed.” A mom in her 40’s is as scary as the police.

[+ poolboy48220]

all I could muster was “don’t worry bud, this happens all the time. Don’t be embarrassed.”

Hahahaha. I can say in all my time at the strip club, I don't remember that ever happening.

[+ Coolwave35]

Hahahaha. I can say in all my time at the strip club, I don't remember that ever happening.

 

He looked at me all wide eyed and said “really?” And I said yeah, ask any of these guys. It’s happened to everyone.

 

When the club owner Initially banged on the door I thought it was a prank. We didn’t immediately stop lol.

[MscleLovr]

I didn’t know strip clubs had doors @Coolwave35 ;-)

[+ poolboy48220]

I didn’t know strip clubs had doors @Coolwave35 ;-)

I know, right? At best, curtains.

[+ Coolwave35]

I know, right? At best, curtains.

 

You’ve never enjoyed the private areas of buffboys on Long Island.... if those rooms could talk.

[Walker1]

It happens in many ways, shapes and forms, especially in Las Vegas. There is no other city in the USA where the activities of vice is so prevalent. Although they MOSTLY target the straight world, it happens plenty when they "go both ways" ... Typically, they do it all, so can't tell you how it goes down "typically". Female undercover officers sit at bars and try to pick you up (haven't heard of men doing it to other men) and male officers do the same thing to women. Vice, printing out hundreds of ads and dialing like there is no tomorrow. Using emails to set up dates, chat features, text messages. They really do it all.

 

They don't want to imprison you for this, but the county really needs the revenue that derives from it. That may be one of the reasons why someone (I have read it) who was the top offender in Las Vegas got arrested for solicitation over 130 times and only served jail time TWICE. It is all about the revenue!

 

When I visited a good client of mine and popped up my usual question of "so what brings you to town" he swiftly responded: "A court date".

 

...so turns out he hired a masseur online and it was vice. They arrested him and searched his room. Turns out he was in town with his ex boyfriend who happened to have drugs in the room. Later on the solicitation charge was dropped simply because the DA knew they had no case against him whatsoever (Vegas is very peculiar in that regards, vice needs to meet quotas and they care less about the "strength of the case"), but they ended up charging him with a much greater issue (possession of drugs) and the legal defense was rather costly for him.

 

As I said, Vegas is a special case in many ways when it comes to this line of work. No entrapment laws here, forget about local vs. foreign number, sometimes they go as far as dressing up as an Arab sheikh (actually it was in one of the episodes of cops), cheap room vs. big suite (virtually all hotels participate) and if you read the penal code, it is written in a very vague way that opens up to a lot of different ways of interpretation. Add to the mix that many people think solicitation is "all legit" here; spoiler alert: It is NOT!

 

Sadly, one of Daddy's golden rules of "know the law" doesn't necessarily protect you from an arrest, but it does protect you from convictions. There are certain guidelines you can implement for yourself to try to mitigate risk, but if LE wants you, they will have you (whether it is a legtimate arrest or not, they care less). I am not an attorney and the above one is not a legal advice, just my personal opinion and experience of 10+ years in Las Vegas, so consult an attorney to know how the law applies in your situation. End of fine-print

Interesting. So if they sit in bars and pick you up, do they discuss money or just try and pick you up and then arrest you-it being officer's word against yours?

[+ peterhung85]

Interesting. So if they sit in bars and pick you up, do they discuss money or just try and pick you up and then arrest you-it being officer's word against yours?

This particular method is more common in the straight world. At what point do they discuss money in exchange for services, no idea. It could happen there or in room. Officer's word against yours... could be, depending on whether they have recorded the conversation or not. I have heard cases when they did, heard cases when they did not. The name of the game is "meeting the quota", again, they care less how strong the case is in court.