Have you ever been arrested while hiring a RentMan?

[GTMike]

This particular method is more common in the straight world. At what point do they discuss money in exchange for services, no idea. It could happen there or in room. Officer's word against yours... could be, depending on whether they have recorded the conversation or not. I have heard cases when they did, heard cases when they did not. The name of the game is "meeting the quota", again, they care less how strong the case is in court.

I wonder if the concept of "meeting a quota" is based on some sort of stastical analysis that is based upon in summary that it's not sp important as you say for strong court cases and high conviction rates, but actually assumes that the potential threat/risk of being cited acts more as an overall macro level deterent. Maybe every once in a while they will snag a lead related to a bigger illegal sex trafficking ring but in the meantime to lower the overall levels of what is deemed "prostitution" they reckon it keeps levels lower. (I'm hypothesizing). Similar to issuing speeding ticket citations to decrease frequency of overall speeds which has some stastical links to # of traffick related deaths.

[+ peterhung85]

I wonder if the concept of "meeting a quota" is based on some sort of stastical analysis that is based upon in summary that it's not sp important as you say for strong court cases and high conviction rates, but actually assumes that the potential threat/risk of being cited acts more as an overall macro level deterent. Maybe every once in a while they will snag a lead related to a bigger illegal sex trafficking ring but in the meantime to lower the overall levels of what is deemed "prostitution" they reckon it keeps levels lower. (I'm hypothesizing). Similar to issuing speeding ticket citations to decrease frequency of overall speeds which has some stastical links to # of traffick related deaths.

That is a very interesting hypothesis. Could be, I guess we will never know. In my opinion, the main purpose is about generating money for the county since the vast majority of the cases end up with fines and some other stuff (like online awareness courses and other exciting things).

[GTMike]

That is a very interesting hypothesis. Could be, I guess we will never know. In my opinion, the main purpose is about generating money for the county since the vast majority of the cases end up with fines and some other stuff (like online awareness courses and other exciting things).

Yeah makes sense as well. From the City's or County's perspective perhaps a lot of different objectives are met and in their estimation a collective societal net benefit. (Again all hypothesis on my part thinking out loud).

[mike carey]

That is a very interesting hypothesis. Could be, I guess we will never know. In my opinion, the main purpose is about generating money for the county since the vast majority of the cases end up with fines and some other stuff (like online awareness courses and other exciting things).

It's not unique to Las Vegas or the US. There is a perception here that the police have quotas to meet, mainly for alleged traffic offences. It's not just revenue based, either, the police seem to have statistical targets that they need to meet to demonstrate that they are out enforcing the law, and also junior police demonstrating to their supervisors that they are doing so. It's messy. Thankfully, sex work is not illegal here so that's not part of it.

 

By way of contrast, I had a burglary/home invasion a couple of months ago, and the police attended at the time. I had five officers attend the next day to ask more questions and door-knock in the area, two forensic officers turn up to see what they could find (nothing as it happened) and two detectives come out to conduct a recorded interview a few days later. They had recovered some of my property, but this was not an exercise in running up statistics.

[Guest]

It's not unique to Las Vegas or the US. There is a perception here that the police have quotas to meet, mainly for alleged traffic offences. It's not just revenue based, either, the police seem to have statistical targets that they need to meet to demonstrate that they are out enforcing the law, and also junior police demonstrating to their supervisors that they are doing so. It's messy. Thankfully, sex work is not illegal here so that's not part of it.

 

By way of contrast, I had a burglary/home invasion a couple of months ago, and the police attended at the time. I had five officers attend the next day to ask more questions and door-knock in the area, two forensic officers turn up to see what they could find (nothing as it happened) and two detectives come out to conduct a recorded interview a few days later. They had recovered some of my property, but this was not an exercise in running up statistics.

 

OMG that's scary, so sorry that happened but at least it looks like the police took care of you. I'm glad you weren't hurt but I'm sure the mental scars are there. I had a break in once when I first moved into my current house. Fortunately all they did was break the window in the back door and the key'd deadbolts kept them out. I wasn't home at the time but it was in the middle of a Saturday afternoon so these guys weren't the brightest.

 

If sex work is legal where you are do you have a lot of street hustlers?

[mike carey]

If sex work is legal where you are do you have a lot of street hustlers?

No, there isn't much of that. The demand isn't there as the clients can find providers legally, so they don't look on the streets from what I can tell. (And I'm not in a red-light area.)

 

Thanks for your kind thoughts, I've worked through it, and I'm fine so far.

[Guest]

No, there isn't much of that. The demand isn't there as the clients can find providers legally, so they don't look on the streets from what I can tell. (And I'm not in a red-light area.)

 

Thanks for your kind thoughts, I've worked through it, and I'm fine so far.

 

I'm glad to hear you're doing better hopefully time will heal any wounds. And a big dog always helps... lol. The police thought that maybe my husky scared them off. I laughed, he was the biggest sweet heart he probably would have just howled at them to give him a treat.

[mike carey]

I'm glad to hear you're doing better hopefully time will heal any wounds. And a big dog always helps... lol. The police thought that maybe my husky scared them off. I laughed, he was the biggest sweet heart he probably would have just howled at them to give him a treat.

Thank you so much.

[LivingnLA]

The blackmailer may have a lot less to lose. I'm thinking of the head of BP, John Browne, whose escort became his boyfriend, then they broke up, and he was blackmailed for quite awhile. When he cut off the payments, the escort went public about him, and Browne felt obliged to step down from his super-lucrative job as head of BP. (I don't know what happened to the escort legally.)

 

Didn't he have a nervous breakdown? I thought that was part of why they broke up?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-452983/The-TRUE-story-Lord-Browne--ex-rent-boy-lover.html

[AceHardware]

Didn't he have a nervous breakdown? I thought that was part of why they broke up?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-452983/The-TRUE-story-Lord-Browne--ex-rent-boy-lover.html

I read an article about it a few months ago, and no nervous breakdown was mentioned. I don't think a break up reason was given, but I had the impression that it was just a normal break up where things won't last forever.

[touchthisskin]

Not by police, but I was busted in the gym showers. The attendant took both of us guys back to the office and said he was revoking both our memberships; he printed something out that 'verified' that. It was all just scare tactics, when I went back a few weeks later (making sure the same guy wasn't at the desk), they let me in without question.

This same thing happened to me. It was worth it, it was a hot time!

[+ poolboy48220]

This same thing happened to me. It was worth it, it was a hot time!

It actually wasn't all that worth it, it was more flirting in the open shower but the attendant caught us both with hardons. I chatted with the guy in the parking lot after, I can't remember WHY we didn't go find someplace else to play.

[touchthisskin]

It actually wasn't all that worth it, it was more flirting in the open shower but the attendant caught us both with hardons. I chatted with the guy in the parking lot after, I can't remember WHY we didn't go find someplace else to play.

Oh we were full on in the shower together. ??

[Walker1]

This particular method is more common in the straight world. At what point do they discuss money in exchange for services, no idea. It could happen there or in room. Officer's word against yours... could be, depending on whether they have recorded the conversation or not. I have heard cases when they did, heard cases when they did not. The name of the game is "meeting the quota", again, they care less how strong the case is in court.

Interesting. I wonder if they figure on it being out of towners and so assume they will pay fine and not contest -irrespective of evidence. A long time ago I drove in Northern NV, I got a ticket for doing 27mph in a 25 mph zone. There was not a single other car and the cop car was hiding behind a structure. MY area usually have a 5mph grace.

 

I hired a lawyer who got it settled with me paying a fine, but no points on my record. maybe majority do the same -pay a bunch and the case goes away?

[handiacefailure]

That's been a concern of mine when hiring and try to hire guys that have been on RM for a while and have reviews and try to avoid new listings and escorts not reviewed.

 

I was told if you ask someone if they are a cop and they deny it then it's considered entrapment but not sure how true that is.

 

In college there used to be a very cruisy bathroom and I got lucky a few times and was lucky I didn't get arrested, there were two times on a weekend I met guys and did it in an empty classroom. There was a sting operation with campus police and a few people got arrested (I think only one was a student and a couple were older guys trying to pick up college kids) and that scared the shit out of me and I quit cruising there, but a friend told me that if I should ask the guy if he is a cop and if he denied it then it would be considered entrapment if he was hitting on me first.

[MikeBiDude]

That's been a concern of mine when hiring and try to hire guys that have been on RM for a while and have reviews and try to avoid new listings and escorts not reviewed.

 

I was told if you ask someone if they are a cop and they deny it then it's considered entrapment but not sure how true that is.

 

In college there used to be a very cruisy bathroom and I got lucky a few times and was lucky I didn't get arrested, there were two times on a weekend I met guys and did it in an empty classroom. There was a sting operation with campus police and a few people got arrested (I think only one was a student and a couple were older guys trying to pick up college kids) and that scared the shit out of me and I quit cruising there, but a friend told me that if I should ask the guy if he is a cop and if he denied it then it would be considered entrapment if he was hitting on me first.

This has been discussed in many previous threads. Short answer = “no”. You’re not protected by asking, and it’s not considered entrapment.

[+ peterhung85]

This has been discussed in many previous threads. Short answer = “no”. You’re not protected by asking, and it’s not considered entrapment.

Correct. Craziest myth people still seem to believe in....

[+ peterhung85]

Interesting. I wonder if they figure on it being out of towners and so assume they will pay fine and not contest -irrespective of evidence. A long time ago I drove in Northern NV, I got a ticket for doing 27mph in a 25 mph zone. There was not a single other car and the cop car was hiding behind a structure. MY area usually have a 5mph grace.

 

I hired a lawyer who got it settled with me paying a fine, but no points on my record. maybe majority do the same -pay a bunch and the case goes away?

As a personal opinion, I highly doubt that it makes any difference who is from here or out of town. 1 arrest equals 1 arrest and that equals to 1 potential fine assessed. Contrarily to the general belief that "everything flies in Vegas" it could not be less true. People think it does but then they get arrested. The "good" thing about it is that when it comes to things like that (solicitation, speeding...and misdemeanor-related incidents...etc.) they seem to have quite streamlined processes in place and inexpensive attorneys who basically assist you not to have real detrimental records and to most of the times just get away with a fine.

[harlow]

Such a shame....

Had these cops used their investigative resources for better purposes, the fatalities caused by the Las Vegas shooter could have probably been prevented.

 

I’m literally visualizing this guy walking right past undercover cops with BAGS of artillery and assault weapons, while they are steaking-out escorts and call girls...

Exactly focus on violent offenders not people making choices that only affect themselves

[+ Reisr30]

Looks like it may not be worth it to hire in LV

[handiacefailure]

Looks like it may not be worth it to hire in LV

 

I think Vegas would be one of the safer cities to hire in. Just make sure you hire an escort who's been reviewed by a couple people who have posted multiple reviews and that's a good sign they aren't a cop.

 

I've hired Peterhung who posted in this thread at least three to four times back when I used to go to Vegas a lot and would really recommend him.

[mattr]

I was at a strip club doing a private with a 19 year old provider and his mom came to retrieve him. Apparently she tracked his iPhone to the sex club and was livid that he was there. He was mortified as he dressed and all I could muster was “don’t worry bud, this happens all the time. Don’t be embarrassed.” A mom in her 40’s is as scary as the police.

I was at a strip club and a "mom" was there with her son...21 at best and she tried to get us to hook up... freaked me out and i spent the rest of the evening avoiding them. She looked old enough to be his mom and there was a resemblance..

[+ Pensant]

I don‘t care for LV at all. The only arrest I ever heard of was a provider who was charged there.

 

About twelve years ago, when I lived in south OC, a young regular knocked on my door and, after he came in, seemed a bit shaken. He told me that OCSD cruisers were in front of my house. We tiptoed upstairs and peeked through the shutters and saw 3 sheriff cars! They soon left. I have no idea what they were doing there.

[crushme99]

We tiptoed upstairs and peeked through the shutters and saw 3 sheriff cars! They soon left. I have no idea what they were doing there.

 

Did you continue with your appointment with him? Or was the mood broken?

[+ Pensant]

Did you continue with your appointment with him? Or was the mood broken?

Hell no! After some weed and a drink, we had our usual naughty role-playing session.