When are you willing to hire again?

[+ keroscenefire]

I know most of us are currently taking a hiatus from hiring in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Just curious about when you will consider hiring again? For me, I am not sure I would wait for the vaccine as that could be a year or more away. But I might meet up again once it looks like there is a very low transmission rate happening in my community and there is a lot more testing happening so we know it's real. Still feel like that is a while away too.

 

When would you consider contacting your regulars again?

[myophile]

I’m waiting until a) there is a reliable antibody test, b) I test positive for COVID antibodies, and c) a provider I know well and whose word I trust also tests positive. On that occasion I plan to book said trustworthy provider for a weekend and fuck his (and my) brains out.

[instudiocity]

My two roommates And I compared notes on the last illness that went through our household in December. We are beginning to suspect we all had ‘Rona move in with us.

 

They are young & healthy. I’m old, diet managed diabetic, obese by definition, and use a CPAP.

 

Maybe we will all test positive for ‘Rona?

[mike carey]

Two answers from me. For guys in Australia, I have no idea when I'd be prepared to hire again. There's no-one in my local area that interests me (so far), so maybe when I can travel that will be enough for me to be prepared to hire in places I can go to. As for the US, it doesn't look as if travel there from Australia will be possible any time soon. If that becomes possible, I'd be prepared to hire, and there's one guy in NYC and another in Connecticut that I would meet in a heartbeat. Also a couple of guys in Las Vegas (if everyone isn't killed in a placebo trial), and some LA/OC guys.

 

I'm not lacking in caution, rather, if I can travel to places I'm prepared to take the risk of hiring when I'm there.

Edited April 24, 2020 by mike carey

[+ keroscenefire]

On that occasion I plan to book said trustworthy provider for a weekend and fuck his (and my) brains out.

 

I hear you on the trustworthy provider. When I hire again, it will definitely be with a trusted regular (probably one of two guys), who I know genuinely would not want anything to bad to happen to me and vice versa. Of course, you could still unintentially infect someone, but with these guys I know they would be honest if they had gotten antibody tests, etc. Some new guy (or a guy who is kind of sketchy) who knows.

[MrMattBig]

My two roommates And I compared notes on the last illness that went through our household in December. We are beginning to suspect we all had ‘Rona move in with us.

 

They are young & healthy. I’m old, diet managed diabetic, obese by definition, and use a CPAP.

 

Maybe we will all test positive for ‘Rona?

What were your symptoms?

While still cautious, I suspect there's a possibility I was sick with it in early/mid January. I attributed it to a bad bottle of wine, but as I recall had fever, vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, chills, fatigue over about 5 days, felt better for about 5 days, then again sick but a bit worse for 5 days more.

Could still be the wine but who knows?‍♂️.

 

I know most of us are currently taking a hiatus from hiring in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Just curious about when you will consider hiring again? For me, I am not sure I would wait for the vaccine as that could be a year or more away. But I might meet up again once it looks like there is a very low transmission rate happening in my community and there is a lot more testing happening so we know it's real. Still feel like that is a while away too.

 

When would you consider contacting your regulars again?

 

I'm curious as well to hear others thoughts. I currently have tentative plans for travel in June and July that are easily movable or cancelable. I am going to seriously monitor how things are everywhere the next few weeks up to May 18, when the bus service I use for Intercity travel on the Northeast and west coast is scheduled to resume service, as well as others levels of comfort.

Also, skeptical of antibody tests being scams or lacking reliability; hopefully over the next few weeks that gets ironed out as well

[instudiocity]

What were your symptoms?

While still cautious, I suspect there's a possibility I was sick with it in early/mid January. I attributed it to a bad bottle of wine, but as I recall had fever, vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, chills, fatigue over about 5 days, felt better for about 5 days, then again sick but a bit worse for 5 days more.

Could still be the wine but who knows?‍♂️.

Yours sounds like classic food poisoning..

 

We all had fever, sore lungs, cough, chills, sore throat, aches & stiffness to varying degrees. One is mid-30’s runner, high altitude hike/camper, the other is late 30’s daily gym attender, benches 3 multiples of his weight, and me, old, fat and lazy.

 

It got us all differently. I thought I was going to be the ambulance driver a couple of times.

Edited April 25, 2020 by instudiocity

[MrMattBig]

Yors sounds like classic food poisoning..

 

We all had fever, sore lungs, cough, chills, sore throat, aches & stiffness to varying degrees. One is mid-30’s runner, high altitude hike/camper, the other is late 30’s daily gym attender, benches 3 multiples of his weight, and me, old, fat and lazy.

 

It got us all differently. I thought I was going to be the ambulance driver a couple of times.

Yeah, I suspect it still was food poisoning either from wine or pizza.

Glad you didn't have to be the ambulance driver after all.

[mike carey]

Maybe we will all test positive for ‘Rona?

And maybe you won't. There are plenty of flu symptoms that aren't Covid-19. People who 'think' they might have the virus, get checked, if you're not sure.

[+ JEC]

I know most of us are currently taking a hiatus from hiring in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Just curious about when you will consider hiring again? For me, I am not sure I would wait for the vaccine as that could be a year or more away. But I might meet up again once it looks like there is a very low transmission rate happening in my community and there is a lot more testing happening so we know it's real. Still feel like that is a while away too.

 

When would you consider contacting your regulars again?

It's a question I don't have an answer to yet. I think we're a long away from a "no risk" scenario. So, it depends then how the science unfolds. Would you connect with someone tested negative a day ago? a week ago? a month ago? Do a point-of-care test "on the spot"? We're a long way away from having that kind of testing available to us. Stay tuned.....

[+ nycman]

Maybe we will all test positive for ‘Rona?

I suspect there's a possibility I was sick with it in early/mid January.

I doubt it.

 

I know quiet a few people who had “flu like symptoms” in Dec and Jan with negative flu tests.

In retrospect, they all thought they had early cases of undiagnosed COVID infections.

 

Everyone of them tested COVID IgG antibody negative this week (i.e. no past COVID infections).

 

Wishful thinking is dangerous medicine.

Edited April 25, 2020 by nycman

[+ Steve yabsley]

Great question......and one I’ve been struggling with for the past few days. Working from home and self isolation is fine, but I’m starting to get lonely. There’s only so much porn I can watch and while I like my hands. It’s not the same.

I starting to wonder when I’ll rehire. I’m immuno-competent, healthy, and have no high risk factors.....and lIke some of you, wonder if I’ve had it .....wish antibody testing was readily available.

 

For me, if I tested positive for covI’d-19 antibodies, I’d hire. And yes, look to get my brains fucked out with someone young and hot. ?

[MrMattBig]

I doubt it.

 

Wishful thinking is dangerous medicine.

 

Agree. Not going to let that suspicion (a small one at that) influence decisions or relax precautions.

[mike carey]

Agree. Not going to let that suspicion (a small one at that) influence decisions or relax precautions.

Exactly, and one would delight in meeting beyond such restrictions and of course with you.

[down_to_business]

I really don't know when I will feel comfortable enough to hire again as I do have some risk factors for serious complications with Covid-19. I would likely prefer to have an available vaccine, but from everything I read, even 18 months is overly optimistic.

So I guess it will be after reliable rapid testing is readily available. I will also probably stick with current trusted providers only. I would feel least comfortable of all with someone new, especially those providers that travel extensively.

[mepatter572discovery]

I would hire if I knew the escort has been in quarantine. But there's only five in Boston who are not taking clients. So that's where I would go first. Other than that....I'm guessing August? September? This summer is fucked but at least we'll save money. LOL

[+ keroscenefire]

I think we're a long away from a "no risk" scenario.

 

And of course with hiring (or having sex at all really) there is also no such thing as "no risk." I once got gonorrhea from an escort, who called me a week after our session to let me know about his own positive test (He's one of the guys I would hire again). In some ways, a COVID test isn't very different from an HIV test. Someone could still test as "negative" or possibly even having antibodies, but there is no guarantee that they haven't caught something more recently. But yeah I agree that we need to follow the science and hopefully with more testing, we'll have more of an understanding so we can make more informed choices.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Also,

 

How soon are escorts willing to see clients who may or may not be COVID negative (or even know their status)?

 

Until people take initiative and get tested, this is going to be the million-dollar question for either side.

 

While I haven't had any symptoms over the last year, I figured I'd likely test for antibodies based on the amount of Asian travel I did over the last 12-15 months. Got my COVID-19 IgG/IgM results and nothing. Tested 'No Exposure'

 

Good/bad news. I actually would have felt better knowing I was developing/developed an immunity.

[+ keroscenefire]

Also,

 

How soon are escorts willing to see clients who may or may not be COVID negative (or even know their status)?

 

Until people take initiative and get tested, this is going to be the million-dollar question for either side.

 

I came down with a pretty bad illness in March that even my primary care physician suspected was COVID. Unfortunately they weren't testing then unless you basically were in the hospital with critical symptoms. They just started doing antibody testing at one site in Denver for $100 a pop. Unfortunately, they already booked up the appointments for the next two weeks before I could get one. I definitely would like to see if I was exposed and possibly have some level of immunity to the illness.

[instudiocity]

And maybe you won't. There are plenty of flu symptoms that aren't Covid-19. People who 'think' they might have the virus, get checked, if you're not sure.

I’m not interested in taking the test until the quantity of tests available rises to near surplus levels, unless My symptoms Were to rise to the level that warrants a test.

[instudiocity]

Wishful thinking is dangerous medicine.

More reflective thought than wishful thinking… Anyone could have Rona move in...

[former lurker]

What were your symptoms?

While still cautious, I suspect there's a possibility I was sick with it in early/mid January. I attributed it to a bad bottle of wine, but as I recall had fever, vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, chills, fatigue over about 5 days, felt better for about 5 days, then again sick but a bit worse for 5 days more.

Could still be the wine but who knows?‍♂️.

 

 

 

I'm curious as well to hear others thoughts. I currently have tentative plans for travel in June and July that are easily movable or cancelable. I am going to seriously monitor how things are everywhere the next few weeks up to May 18, when the bus service I use for Intercity travel on the Northeast and west coast is scheduled to resume service, as well as others levels of comfort.

Also, skeptical of antibody tests being scams or lacking reliability; hopefully over the next few weeks that gets ironed out as well

 

I'll chime in on both aspects of your post, Matt. First, about travel in the Northeast, it's good that you're monitoring local conditions. Massachusetts may have peaked the past few days. There are fewer new hospital admissions for corona, but the hospitals and ancillary health care centers are at their capacity to handle the cases they have. Pockets around Boston are reporting a surge in cases. Most of the state is on lock down. I'm not sure what restrictions may exist on hotel occupancy or air bnb arrangements. At one point, there was talk of using vacant hotels to house overflow patients and homeless people during the crisis. Then one of the convention centers was employed for those purposes, so it may have let the hotels off the hook. Local transit is likely to still be limited through much of May. New York, Mass. and NJ are among the hardest hit states, and it seems Connecticut is becoming a hot spot as well.

 

Second, about potentially having caught and recovered from corona. During the first week of March, I had a three day period of running a temp and experiencing the chills. No other symptoms at the time other than a slightly scratchy throat. My temp never went above 102 F, and returned to normal within 3 days. I self-quarantined for three weeks without symptoms or recurrence, and have largely remained in isolation except for a few brief trips to pick up groceries. I was particularly sensitive about the risks when I had the short patch of fever because my nephew and his wife were set to deliver their second child later that week. By then, however, the hospital wouldn't allow visitors anyway and they were given strict guidelines to follow upon bringing their newborn home. I have had a few days where I've sneezed a couple of times, but those are almost certainly seasonal allergies. I'm allergic to everything that grows or walks (except dog hair).

 

So, that's a long response, but the net is travel in the Northeast will likely be tentative at best throughout May and perhaps beyond.

[bostonman]

I saw my favorite escort in early March, before the world really started falling apart. I don't know when he'll be up this way again at this point, but I think I would trust him enough that when he feels right about working and making a trip to Boston, I'm sure I'll see him. But I tend to think that won't be for a while.

 

In the meantime, I'm lucky to still have a salaried teaching job (working from home), though much of my other freelance music work has disappeared of course - so I'm also trying to watch my finances, and aside from Covid concerns, probably won't even think of hiring again until I feel like I have enough extra money coming in that I won't have to worry so much. So it may be a while. And although I'd be tempted to arrange a cam session with a hot escort, I really can't see wanting to spend money on that - I'd rather save up for something more intimate once it seems safe to do so.

 

Mid March, I did have a few days of cold/allergy-like symptoms - a slightly scratchy/dry throat and some congestion - but no fever, no other complications, and it went away without any fanfare. So I doubt that was anything corona-ish, but of course who knows? I've been fine ever since (aside from being increasingly stir-crazy, but I'm sure we all are...)

[MrMattBig]

I'll chime in on both aspects of your post, Matt. First, about travel in the Northeast, it's good that you're monitoring local conditions. Massachusetts may have peaked the past few days. There are fewer new hospital admissions for corona, but the hospitals and ancillary health care centers are at their capacity to handle the cases they have. Pockets around Boston are reporting a surge in cases. Most of the state is on lock down. I'm not sure what restrictions may exist on hotel occupancy or air bnb arrangements. At one point, there was talk of using vacant hotels to house overflow patients and homeless people during the crisis. Then one of the convention centers was employed for those purposes, so it may have let the hotels off the hook. Local transit is likely to still be limited through much of May. New York, Mass. and NJ are among the hardest hit states, and it seems Connecticut is becoming a hot spot as well.

 

Second, about potentially having caught and recovered from corona. During the first week of March, I had a three day period of running a temp and experiencing the chills. No other symptoms at the time other than a slightly scratchy throat. My temp never went above 102 F, and returned to normal within 3 days. I self-quarantined for three weeks without symptoms or recurrence, and have largely remained in isolation except for a few brief trips to pick up groceries. I was particularly sensitive about the risks when I had the short patch of fever because my nephew and his wife were set to deliver their second child later that week. By then, however, the hospital wouldn't allow visitors anyway and they were given strict guidelines to follow upon bringing their newborn home. I have had a few days where I've sneezed a couple of times, but those are almost certainly seasonal allergies. I'm allergic to everything that grows or walks (except dog hair).

 

So, that's a long response, but the net is travel in the Northeast will likely be tentative at best throughout May and perhaps beyond.

Well glad to see you have apparently recovered, whatever the illness may have been.

I have seasonal allergies and scratchy throat with bananas and tomatoes on rare occasions.

I have you beat though on being allergic to the most inescapable thing of all, especially in Vegas: the sun!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK109193/

[ross06]

ideally it would be when we had a vaccine, but that seems like a very long way off. Of other concern is that I usually use a hotel when I meet with an escort. When they open for short term day stays that would be one hurdle hopefully eliminated