Is There Discrimination Against Clients?

[Cannon]

This week a client who happens to be White asked me if I would take him (Im a massuer) even though he is a white client...and he was serious.....(most of my clients happen to be white so of course I took him). Then a Black client yesterday also asked me the same thing...So here I have white guy and a Black asking me if I'll discriminate against them.....Is this really a thing? Why would I? Do clients think I care how much or how little melanin is in their skin? Am I in the twilight zone? Was this just a coincidence? Is this happening to others? What in the hell is going on out there?

Edited August 11, 2019 by Cannon

[Walker1]

Not an escort, but I think just sign of the times.

[tj_forplay]

This week a client asked me if I would take him (Im a massuer) because he is a white client...and he was serious.....(most of my clients happen to be white so of course not) a Black client yesterday also asked me the same thing...Is this really a thing? Why wouldn't I? Do clients think I care how much or how little melanin is in their skin? Am I in the twilight zone? Was this just a coincidence? Is this happening to others? What in the hell is going on out there?

 

I'm not an escort. But the several times I've hired one, I always informed them that I was black. Just wanted them to know ahead of time, people have silly hang ups and if it's an issue for them I rather they tell me upfront & I won't waste my time & money on poor service. Also don't want to meet up & then get rejected.

 

While I haven't booked anyone for their full service, (just massage and some extras,) I have experienced a couple providers either ghosting me after I told them I'm black or all of sudden "need to reschedule" to a time I said I wouldn't be available. One instance the provider told me he wouldn't be attracted to me and that it wouldn't work out without some level of attraction. Another told me "You can find another escort." It's disheartening just until I delete text thread, then I move on.

Maybe it's just like that here in MN ??‍♂️

[Cannon]

WTF?!! I couldn't imagine treating a client or prospective client like that. When I book a client I have no idea what their ethnic background is (unless they have an accent)and I couldn't care less. It doesn't even cross my mind.

 

It sounds like you dodged a couple of bullets because they sound like they are not only terrible business men but also awful/ugly human beings.... and that's that on that.

 

I'm not an escort. But the several times I've hired one, I always informed them that I was black. Just wanted them to know ahead of time, people have silly hang ups and if it's an issue for them I rather they tell me upfront & I won't waste my time & money on poor service. Also don't want to meet up & then get rejected.

 

While I haven't booked anyone for their full service, (just massage and some extras,) I have experienced a couple providers either ghosting me after I told them I'm black or all of sudden "need to reschedule" to a time I said I wouldn't be available. One instance the provider told me he wouldn't be attracted to me and that it wouldn't work out without some level of attraction. Another told me "You can find another escort." It's disheartening just until I delete text thread, then I move on.

Maybe it's just like that here in MN ??‍♂️

Edited August 11, 2019 by Cannon

[+ StLouisOct]

It’s a reality that some guys aren’t attracted to people of color. Two escorts that I really enjoy have told me that they’ve had potential clients back off once they learn that the escort isn’t white. I find it to be very troubling and those guys are missing out on some great experiences, but reality often rears its ugly head and it’s

something we have to live with.

[Monarchy79]

This is a reality, and I’m not necessarily sure if I have a problem with it, as escorting is a very “personal” service.

 

Whether it’s social or morally right or wrong is another discussion. But in an Industry where it’s requried for someone to touch, taste, prod and maintain and erection, preferences do come into play.

 

I haven’t had escorting services yet, but tons of massages and I always make it clear that I’m black. Some guys don’t like black guys (their reasons aren’t important to me), and that’s fine.

I’d just rather know that up front and discontinue the conversation, rather than have an awkward moment on the table, or weird communications.

 

As I’ve stated in another post, I’d encourage all service providers to actually state their preferences (race, age, body type, etc.) and would hope they wouldn’t be judged on it either. I’d rather not waste my time in engaging with anyone who does not like me.

 

I’m not saying bigotry is acceptable. I’m saying that the rules are a bit different in the sex industry.

 

Now housing, banking, education, and employment should never involve these factors. But in who one will have sex with is a grey area, regardless of how vile racism (or any other “ism”) is.

 

And quick funny,

The first experience I had with a masseur who didn’t like black guys was actually black... lol....

 

Go figure....

[Monarchy79]

Not an escort, but I think just sign of the times.

 

Time hasn’t changed ?

 

It’s always been like this. Lol

[+ José Soplanucas]

I have been discriminated against because of my weight, at least twice. Although of course I am not happy about it, I do think escorts have all the right to set up physical preferences and choose their clients.

[Monarchy79]

If there are any masseurs or escorts who the group knows of who have racial preferences, please send me a pm with their links, so I will make sure to never even look at their profiles. I value my time and don’t like it wasted.

[+ 7829V]

We might not like it, but I think is good when they state their preferences and reject customers based on their preferences. This way the business transaction goes smoothly.

 

A wholesale business can say "minimum order XXX and you need this type of license to buy from us", if not we are not interested in you as a customer.

[+ José Soplanucas]

We might not like it, but I think is good when they state their preferences and reject customers based on their preferences. This way the business transaction goes smoothly.

 

A wholesale business can say "minimum order XXX and you need this type of license to buy from us", if not we are not interested in you as a customer.

 

As you mentioned it, age is another quite common criteria to discriminate against clients. I know amazing escorts who prefer clients no older than 50s.

[+ 7829V]

As you mentioned it, age is another quite common criteria to discriminate against clients. I know amazing escorts who prefer clients no older than 50s.

Or if it's over 50, they could charge more.

The same way a wholesale business if you buy less than the minimum, they charge you a higher price or add a special handling fee.

This is a business.

[+ quoththeraven]

This is a reality, and I’m not necessarily sure if I have a problem with it, as escorting is a very “personal” service.

 

Whether it’s social or morally right or wrong is another discussion. But in an Industry where it’s requried for someone to touch, taste, prod and maintain and erection, preferences do come into play.

 

I haven’t had escorting services yet, but tons of massages and I always make it clear that I’m black. Some guys don’t like black guys (their reasons aren’t important to me), and that’s fine.

I’d just rather know that up front and discontinue the conversation, rather than have an awkward moment on the table, or weird communications.

 

As I’ve stated in another post, I’d encourage all service providers to actually state their preferences (race, age, body type, etc.) and would hope they wouldn’t be judged on it either. I’d rather not waste my time in engaging with anyone who does not like me.

 

I’m not saying bigotry is acceptable. I’m saying that the rules are a bit different in the sex industry.

 

Now housing, banking, education, and employment should never involve these factors. But in who one will have sex with is a grey area, regardless of how vile racism (or any other “ism”) is.

 

And quick funny,

The first experience I had with a masseur who didn’t like black guys was actually black... lol....

 

Go figure....

Sorry, it's entirely appropriate to judge them for these preferences. If they're so important, then don't become a sex worker.

 

(I agree it's better if they state the preferences up front, but come on, suggesting that should be a judgment-free experience is asking too much.)

[MiamiLooker]

The word "professional" gets used a lot in the forum in describing escorts. Do forum members consider escorts that discriminate against race, age, weight, etc., to be "professional"? Does it make a difference if the escort is upfront about his discriminatory practices in his advertising?

[+ HornyRetiree]

I have been discriminated against because of my weight, at least twice. Although of course I am not happy about it, I do think escorts have all the right to set up physical preferences and choose their clients.

I avoid this by sending a picture when I contact them!

 

I figure I have seen them and they have a right to see me!

 

I would prefer to know it won't work BEFORE paying for an unsatisfactory session!!

[KeepItReal]

This week a client who happens to be White asked me if I would take him (Im a massuer) because he is a white client...and he was serious.....(most of my clients happen to be white so of course not) Then a Black client yesterday also asked me the same thing...So here I have white guy and a Black asking me if I'll discriminate against them.....Is this really a thing? Why would I? Do clients think I care how much or how little melanin is in their skin? Am I in the twilight zone? Was this just a coincidence? Is this happening to others? What in the hell is going on out there?

A number of companions have asked me my race. The questions you are getting may be because of this practice by some companions....

[Monarchy79]

Sorry, it's entirely appropriate to judge them for these preferences. If they're so important, then don't become a sex worker.

 

(I agree it's better if they state the preferences up front, but come on, suggesting that should be a judgment-free experience is asking too much.)

 

A sex worker is using their body for the services they perform. Whether it’s biased, bigoted or not, they are not entitled to service every prospective client.

 

On a lighter example, let’s say a potential client hasn’t showered in a month. He is not entitled to receive the services of the escort because he requested it. The sex worker has the right to say no.

 

I believe in transparency. Although you are correct in stating that it’s a bit much to expect escorts not to be judged on their preferences, I feel that the idea would have positive results overall.

 

1.) escorts who do not have racial biases would increase business from new clients.

 

2.) escorts who have racial biases will get what they are looking for.

 

3.) potential clients won’t have to wasted time, playing the guessing game of who will want to do business with them.

 

Although I agree with you 100%, the world we live in has realities that just aren’t fair, and we have to deal with them

[blightuponyou]

It is incredibly disheartening to hear anyone would feel the need to disclose their race pre-appointment as if it was source of shame.

 

Kudos to you for being welcoming and appalled by the very thought of discrimination.

[marylander1940]

I have been discriminated against because of my weight, at least twice. Although of course I am not happy about it, I do think escorts have all the right to set up physical preferences and choose their clients.

 

Good point. I remember ads in the Washington Blade saying "in shape only". Some guys have told me how difficult is to top a guy who is overweight but in some cases it's also difficult for them to reach in.

 

Warning, might be offensive.

 

Or if it's over 50, they could charge more.

The same way a wholesale business if you buy less than the minimum, they charge you a higher price or add a special handling fee.

This is a business.

 

Unfortunately sometimes even clients lie about their age, body, etc.

 

I do agree with @Monarchy79 that's is a very personal business and sometimes even on Viagra can't perform nor deliver the BFE with everybody who wants to hire them. Unfortunately some guys aren't attractive to some ethnic group, bad for business but it's their body.

 

It’s a reality that some guys aren’t attracted to people of color. Two escorts that I really enjoy have told me that they’ve had potential clients back off once they learn that the escort isn’t white. I find it to be very troubling and those guys are missing out on some great experiences, but reality often rears its ugly head and it’s

something we have to live with.

 

Most Asians won’t hire someone who’s not Nordic for example.

Edited August 10, 2019 by marylander1940

[Monarchy79]

Good point. I remember ads in the Washington Blade saying "in shape only". Some guys have told me how difficult is to top a guy who is overweight but in some cases it's also difficult for them to reach in.

 

Warning, might be offensive.

 

 

 

Unfortunately sometimes even clients lie about their age, body, etc.

 

I do agree with @Monarchy79 that's is a very personal business and sometimes even on Viagra can't perform nor deliver the BFE with everybody who wants to hire them. Unfortunately some guys aren't attractive to some ethnic group, bad for business but it's their body.

 

 

 

Most Asians won’t hire someone who’s not Nordic for example.

 

Yet many Asians will cry “discrimination”, when the white guys they desperately desire tell them “Sorry, no Asians”.

[Monarchy79]

Good point. I remember ads in the Washington Blade saying "in shape only". Some guys have told me how difficult is to top a guy who is overweight but in some cases it's also difficult for them to reach in.

 

Warning, might be offensive.

 

 

 

Unfortunately sometimes even clients lie about their age, body, etc.

 

I do agree with @Monarchy79 that's is a very personal business and sometimes even on Viagra can't perform nor deliver the BFE with everybody who wants to hire them. Unfortunately some guys aren't attractive to some ethnic group, bad for business but it's their body.

 

 

 

Most Asians won’t hire someone who’s not Nordic for example.

 

Also, any escort who tells you that it’s difficult to screw a fat guy is either:

1.) lying

2.) lacking in skill, or

3.) doesn’t have the endowment to “get it in”

[marylander1940]

Also, any escort who tells you that it’s difficult to screw a fat guy is either:

1.) lying

2.) lacking in skill, or

3.) doesn’t have the endowment to “get it in”

 

in most cases if there's a will there's a way but picture yourself doing it.

What if the guy wants his legs up in the air. How many pillows?

reaching in (getting in) could take some logistics doing it. Besides most overweight guys are usually tight.

[+ tassojunior]

Yet many Asians will cry “discrimination”, when the white guys they desperately desire tell them “Sorry, no Asians”.

 

From my experience (somewhat insider) Asians are by far the main target of racist rejection by many providers. They say it's because of hygiene.

 

And that's why some ask for a pic. They don't give a damn about your looks otherwise as long as Ben Franklin's still in shape.

[+ tassojunior]

in most cases if there's a will there's a way but picture yourself doing it.

What if the guy wants his legs up in the air. How many pillows?

reaching in (getting in) could take some logistics doing it. Besides most overweight guys are usually tight.

 

My #1 just put on a lot of weight. We just spread his knees further apart when he assumes position.

[Monarchy79]

My #1 just put on a lot of weight. We just spread his knees further apart when he assumes position.

 

 

Exactly!!

Or put him on his back, slide him to the edge of the bed, push those legs back and out and dive right in ?