Are Escorts Over Us?

[geoduck_007]

Forgive the headline - I don't mean to be dramatic, but I'm down in San Diego for work this week and reached out to three different escorts on RM about a potential meetup within the last week, and I got:

• One e-mail response back with a request if I could host, which I agreed to and then he never responded by e-mail or phone after a week of attempts;
  
• One who was upset I called him on his RM phone number while he was driving and asked to call back when he wasn't driving (my clairvoyance is not as keen as his); and
  
• One who was annoyed by phone when I asked about what he specialized in/liked to do. (Ambiguous ad, hot photos. Wanted more info...)
  

It seems like for two months its been like this - reach out and ask and get rejected as if you're trying to date them. Maybe its the 'gentleman' I've been interested in hiring; however, it just seems counterintuitive that one would advertise their services and not reciprocate with courteous interest or helpfulness.

 

Maybe its' just the reality of the "business" in that it operates in a grey area and we get-what-we-can-get. I don't know. Maybe it's just bad luck.

 

Would any of the seasoned commentators be willing to offer some commentary or sage advice? I'm flummoxed at this point.

[The Dude]

Yeah, always text. It can be very difficult to have a discreet conversation on a moment's notice. This way they can get back to you when they have some privacy.

Edited August 13, 2018 by The Dude

[MattDaniel]

Check out Discreet_Jack in SD. He’s expensive but worth it. Also, very polite.

[geoduck_007]

Check out Discreet_Jack in SD. He’s expensive but worth it. Also, very polite.

He's actually in Las Vegas right now. Wrong Timing.

 

I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I might have been too earnest in my approach.

[bnm73]

He's actually in Las Vegas right now. Wrong Timing.

 

I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I might have been too earnest in my approach.

 

Many escorts will say on their ads if they prefer text first....if they left that out, then it's understandable that you would call the number first instead of texting.

 

That said, it never hurts to text for first contact...if just to check whether it's a good time to call to discuss business. Some had "day jobs," and prefer not to discuss one job while working another.

 

That said, the three you described acted somewhat unprofessionally, imho. A good escort doesn't "ghost" a prospective client without cause. A good escort will call back if he said he would. (This one may have been driving to a client, so a delay in getting back to you could be understandable....but neglecting to call at all???) A good escort won't get offended if a client is trying to match their desires with what the escort does/likes to do.

 

As the saying goes, "bad pennies will turn up," and it's a shame that the ones you tried to contact appear to have been a few. Luckily for you, there appear to be plenty of guys in SD to choose from.

[marylander1940]

Many escorts will say on their ads if they prefer text first....if they left that out, then it's understandable that you would call the number first instead of texting.

 

That said, it never hurts to text for first contact...if just to check whether it's a good time to call to discuss business. Some had "day jobs," and prefer not to discuss one job while working another.

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Lately texting is the preferred method of communication yet I think nothing beats a phone call to get a feeling, I'd rather talk for 2 minutes instead of texting for 30.

 

One more thing, an escort once told me a would-be-client told him "I hate talking on the phone, I don't even talk to my family. I feel I'm getting raped when I'm talking on the phone". Thank God the client never closed the deal, can you imagine meeting such a drama queen?

[marylander1940]

Forgive the headline - I don't mean to be dramatic, but I'm down in San Diego for work this week and reached out to three different escorts on RM about a potential meetup within the last week, and I got:

• One e-mail response back with a request if I could host, which I agreed to and then he never responded by e-mail or phone after a week of attempts;
  
• One who was upset I called him on his RM phone number while he was driving and asked to call back when he wasn't driving (my clairvoyance is not as keen as his); and
  
• One who was annoyed by phone when I asked about what he specialized in/liked to do. (Ambiguous ad, hot photos. Wanted more info...)
  

It seems like for two months its been like this - reach out and ask and get rejected as if you're trying to date them. Maybe its the 'gentleman' I've been interested in hiring; however, it just seems counterintuitive that one would advertise their services and not reciprocate with courteous interest or helpfulness.

 

Maybe its' just the reality of the "business" in that it operates in a grey area and we get-what-we-can-get. I don't know. Maybe it's just bad luck.

 

Would any of the seasoned commentators be willing to offer some commentary or sage advice? I'm flummoxed at this point.

 

The 1st one was lazy or very busy, the 2nd should have called you (he calling you later), and the 3rd guy should know how to describe himself and what he does without committing to any specific acts that would put him in trouble. For example: instead of saying "yes, I'll fuck you", he can say "in my private life I enjoy being a top and men I meet this way usually ask me to be more in charge".

[geoduck_007]

Wow. I knew this forum would come through with polite, concise, and appropriate commentary.

 

I'm inclined to text (a low risk activity); however, none of the gent's indicated that that was their preferred method (in fact, there was no method at all - I'm always happy to follow their instructions for the right guy)

 

It's probably bad luck. I've had a really long streak since a weekend in Toronto in May when two RM escorts gave me a lackluster time and I became gunshy. Thought I might be able to get back into the swing of things here...

 

I'll get back on the horse.....

[+ Tarte Gogo]

it just seems counterintuitive that one would advertise their services and not reciprocate with courteous interest or helpfulness.

Well, that depends how busy they are.

If you choose them among the most popular, they will be very busy already and since they only are able to do so many meetings per day, loosing one client who asks too many questions is not a big deal, they have more clients than they can handle already.

 

This is true of any business. Try to get an electrician these days: all the ones that are highly recommended can’t even be bothered to come and give you a quote. They already have enough work. Simple.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Tarte Gogo

[marylander1940]

Wow. I knew this forum would come through with polite, concise, and appropriate commentary.

 

I'm inclined to text (a low risk activity); however, none of the gent's indicated that that was their preferred method (in fact, there was no method at all - I'm always happy to follow their instructions for the right guy)

 

It's probably bad luck. I've had a really long streak since a weekend in Toronto in May when two RM escorts gave me a lackluster time and I became gunshy. Thought I might be able to get back into the swing of things here...

 

I'll get back on the horse.....

 

If Jay Holt was around your problems finding someone in SD would be over. Biggest smile I've seen in my life!

Unfortunately he's retired and back home in New England.

[+ tassojunior]

Forgive the headline - I don't mean to be dramatic, but I'm down in San Diego for work this week and reached out to three different escorts on RM about a potential meetup within the last week, and I got:

• One e-mail response back with a request if I could host, which I agreed to and then he never responded by e-mail or phone after a week of attempts;
  
• One who was upset I called him on his RM phone number while he was driving and asked to call back when he wasn't driving (my clairvoyance is not as keen as his); and
  
• One who was annoyed by phone when I asked about what he specialized in/liked to do. (Ambiguous ad, hot photos. Wanted more info...)
  

It seems like for two months its been like this - reach out and ask and get rejected as if you're trying to date them. Maybe its the 'gentleman' I've been interested in hiring; however, it just seems counterintuitive that one would advertise their services and not reciprocate with courteous interest or helpfulness.

 

Maybe its' just the reality of the "business" in that it operates in a grey area and we get-what-we-can-get. I don't know. Maybe it's just bad luck.

 

Would any of the seasoned commentators be willing to offer some commentary or sage advice? I'm flummoxed at this point.

 

Problem is the bitches don't have pimps.

 

Seriously, in Europe because few escorts speak English or other clients' languages they have to have "agents". Latin friends of mine in the US also have agents because of language. It is amazing how much easier it is. The provider makes much more money because they have a professional answering texts and scheduling while they can be performing other, more valuable services. A $300/hr sex provider has no business doing $12/hr secretarial work. And even if it causes him to lose even one client a week that's more than an agent would cost.

 

When my Argentine partner visits and works out of my guest house we talk all day. In the morning his agent texts his schedule of clients so far for the day so he can plan any free time. Later the agent texts additional evening add-ons. He also texts when the client is outside at the meeting point. If he wants the day or part day off he texts so to the agent. He would never in a million years pull his phone out in front of a client. That is awful. He says he gets twice as many clients than handling it himself for which he pays a discounted 10%. (Volume, he's hot). Most pay 15%. That's of base, not tips or add-ons and he's a masseur so there's a lot of add-ons.

 

From a client's viewpoint it's great because you get quick responses and prompt scheduling. Like scheduling a dental cleaning. Unfortunately you think you're chatting with the provider but there's rarely misinformation as to services. They even know the extra charges. The only complaints from providers is when their agents are not doing their job well enough. But they'd never consider doing that secretarial work themselves. Just like a $300/hr professional wouldn't handle their own phones and scheduling.

 

I have no idea why only latino providers seem to use agents in the US. Getting responses even from repeat providers is like pulling teeth. It's awful.

Edited August 13, 2018 by tassojunior

[Guest Lonlyboy]

Honestly I find this more and more. I always start out with a text. Over the last two months I have reached out to 15 providers through Massuerfinder and RM. Of those 15 7 of them responded several days later always with an excuse of sorry I have been busy etc but those 7 also fail to follow up with further conversation.

5 of them never responded via email or text.

3 responded very quickly.

The reason I reached out to so many is because in Dallas there seems to be a high flake rate of actually meeting providers.

[johnjohn]

I am glad to know i am not the only one not getting responses from Rm and Massuerfinder. I seems to be happening more and more. Also alot of guys have there profiles listed in a city but when you contact they are not in the city they post in. Whats up with that?

[caliguy]

Forgive the headline - I don't mean to be dramatic, but I'm down in San Diego for work this week and reached out to three different escorts on RM about a potential meetup within the last week, and I got:

• One e-mail response back with a request if I could host, which I agreed to and then he never responded by e-mail or phone after a week of attempts;
  
• One who was upset I called him on his RM phone number while he was driving and asked to call back when he wasn't driving (my clairvoyance is not as keen as his); and
  
• One who was annoyed by phone when I asked about what he specialized in/liked to do. (Ambiguous ad, hot photos. Wanted more info...)
  

It seems like for two months its been like this - reach out and ask and get rejected as if you're trying to date them. Maybe its the 'gentleman' I've been interested in hiring; however, it just seems counterintuitive that one would advertise their services and not reciprocate with courteous interest or helpfulness.

 

Maybe its' just the reality of the "business" in that it operates in a grey area and we get-what-we-can-get. I don't know. Maybe it's just bad luck.

 

Would any of the seasoned commentators be willing to offer some commentary or sage advice? I'm flummoxed at this point.

My guess is that you go for the in demand guys. If you want better customer service look for guys who may not be the ideal fantasy but you'll probably find a nicer guy. That or just keep looking for the hottest of the hot and accept it.

[+ tassojunior]

The reason I reached out to so many is because in Dallas there seems to be a high flake rate of actually meeting providers.

 

Believe me, it's not just Dallas, it's nationwide.

[+ tassojunior]

I am glad to know i am not the only one not getting responses from Rm and Massuerfinder. I seems to be happening more and more. Also alot of guys have there profiles listed in a city but when you contact they are not in the city they post in. Whats up with that?

 

It means they'll go to a city if they can line up some clients there. They're fishing.

 

Out west it's hilarious how many escorts also list Vegas and Hawaii.

[wooly]

Unfortunately, we have given these ingrates the upper hand. Often they are in hot demand and/or they suffer from personality deficiency disorder. It is interesting to note that many of those who are guilty of being jerks are not well known. While, not all of them are assholes many of the ones, who are new to being prostitutes, are that way.

[+ tassojunior]

Unfortunately, we have given these ingrates the upper hand. Often they are in hot demand and/or they suffer from personality deficiency disorder. It is interesting to note that many of those who are guilty of being jerks are not well known. While, not all of them are assholes many of the ones, who are new to being prostitutes, are that way.

 

That's overly harsh. The guys perform a valuable service and they're needed. But they're not clerical types usually. Answering calls and texts and setting appointments is a hard job that few are good at. They're professionals trying to also handle their own secretarial and that just never works well.

[rvwnsd]

I'm not sure I'd categorize escorts in general as being "over us" based on an experience with three escorts in San Diego. In fact, I am quite sure I would not.

 

That being said, I typically email or text on first contact. That would not help in the case of the guy you emailed, as he did not reply after you answered his reply email, but it could in the case of the two guys you called. They do share some of the responsibility as all mobile plans include voice mail. Don't want to talk? Let the call go to voice mail.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Honestly I find this more and more. I always start out with a text. Over the last two months I have reached out to 15 providers through Massuerfinder and RM. Of those 15 7 of them responded several days later always with an excuse of sorry I have been busy etc but those 7 also fail to follow up with further conversation.

5 of them never responded via email or text.

3 responded very quickly.

The reason I reached out to so many is because in Dallas there seems to be a high flake rate of actually meeting providers.

 

Dallas? Go for Allen. One of the best guys out there. He will blow your mind, and anything else you want.

[Epigonos]

I have encountered similar, though not identical, problems here in Southern California. I have recently contacted three different escorts by text. Things went along swimmingly for a while and then, just as we are about to set up a specific day and time for our meeting, they went silent.

Now to be totally honest, in situations like these, I'm perfectly capable of being an arrogant ass. Once an escort and I have established a communication channel (texting) and then he suddenly doesn't respond to one of my texts I DO NOT pursue him. Some here may believe that it is possible that he didn't receive my last text and thus I should try again. I don't agree. The escort is the service provider and if, all of a sudden, he doesn't hear from me it, in my opinion, behooves him to contact me.

One of the nice things about being my age and having hired escorts for over sixteen years is that I have learned that there are MANY fish in the ocean. I am also rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need to stick to my regulars and stop trying out ferret out new guys -- they simply aren't worth the effort and trouble.

[MartyB]

I have had some recent experience with escorts in NYC where I've texted them about once or twice with a brief description of me their location get a better idea of their preferences and their rate? No response at all. I've moved on. LoL

[LookingAround]

Wow. I knew this forum would come through with polite, concise, and appropriate commentary.

 

I'm inclined to text (a low risk activity); however, none of the gent's indicated that that was their preferred method (in fact, there was no method at all - I'm always happy to follow their instructions for the right guy)

 

It's probably bad luck. I've had a really long streak since a weekend in Toronto in May when two RM escorts gave me a lackluster time and I became gunshy. Thought I might be able to get back into the swing of things here...

 

I'll get back on the horse.....

When in doubt always text.

[Gymowner]

a well known escort chimed in on another thread of similar content. Not exact but similar. Well, the attitude he gave as if he was being bothered asking for photo verification of his condition and that it was really him. Many chimed in that his attitude sucked. He became even more beligerent. Going so far as to say in this day and age it was easy to find out peoples true identity. Hmmmmm.... wonder what he was alluding to with those kind words.

 

I have a friend who is a cam model. Great person. He complained one day he was thinking of baning a guy from his room since the guy was annoying and my friend couldn't focus on his room. I said for him to take a deep breath, back off and reality check his situation. He made huge amounts of money for basically laying in bed and jerking off.

 

He changed his whole attitude. Thanked me for that and said he really had much more stress when he was working a minimum wage job years earlier.

 

I dont think many of these guys understand that a good portion of their job is aquiring new clients. ANY time ANY business has to do so there will be pain in the asses, complainers, whiners etc. Its par for the course. That's how a client base of great clients is achieved... by weeding out all the bad clients or potentials. Many dont understand this or have such poor people and business skills they feel they are entitled to perfect clients each and every time.

 

Get over yourselves men. Father time will take care of you sooner than you think. Then go out in the real world and see how this attitude works.

[+ Keith30309]

I’ve found that the guys i have a really good experience with are pretty attentive to these sorts of things and so it sort of works out.

 

Radio silence is annoying but ultimately somewhat of a blessing in disguise.