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He's a nice guy who, besides massage, offers private yoga lessions (extra for nude) at his place in Park Slope. I had a good experience. 

He's a nice guy who, besides massage, offers private yoga lessions (extra for nude) at his place in Park Slope. I had a good experience. 

I have a 30-inch-wide Inner Strength table, and the masseurs who come to my apartment all compliment it. 

Of course, it's not just gay men who are hiring! Two regular providers of mine have said in recent months that about 70% of their clients are straight or bi men, who are often married to women. 

https://rentmasseur.com/Adenuru

To go at it like it's your last meal

Enough to get this reaction

I offered to look up a providers profile for someone here who was asking for help assessing it and have been receiving requests to do so for others DAILY now (some people haven't even said 'please') so I thought I would post a little 'how to assess and hire' guide and just send the link. 
Disclaimer - *none of this is fool-proof and there is always inherent risk in anything you do. You can walk outside and be struck by lightning today.  Please do not comment with 'whataboutisms' or tales of woe on this thread. I don’t care and I won’t read it. 
 
1. VPN
Use a VPN to view the rentmen site so you can read the text in the reviews. Pages of discussions of what VPN is best are on this site. I recommend Privado which is subscription based, but I use a VPN whenever I turn on my computer or phone.  There is a free site - nl.hideproxy.me that works however you must use Chrome browser on laptop. 
2. REVIEWS
Look at who has left the reviews. Check the client profiles. Did they open the account at a similar time to the provider, or have they been on rentmen for years? Have they left many reviews? Has one provider got 15 reviews but 7 are from the same person? Do they have lots of great reviews and then one bad one? Have a look at the person who left the bad reviews profile - has the person that left the bad review left lots of bad reviews for other guys too? 
Reach out and send a message to clients that have left reviews and ask some questions. Don't ask for a blow-by-blow account- just ask brief question that is relevant for you. eg. Does he have a nice place to host? Did he kiss?)  
Search the providers name here on Company of Men. If you find no threads - start a 411 thread and ask if anyone has experience. This is a GREAT way to see if a 'new' provider is actually a name changer, and just a new profile. This site is a cesspool at times, but it can also be a great resource. Help add to the resource. If you are interested, it's likely someone else is too! Please remember if someone posts a 411 thread about a guy who you don't like the look of - move on! no need to yuk on other peoples yum. 
How many reviews does this person have compared to how long they have been on the site. Keeping in mind – guys located in big cities will have more clients, reviews can only be left by premium members now, and so newer guys take a little longer to get some. Some guys only work this as a side hustle and also might not have as many reviews. 
3. PHOTOS
Have a look at when the photos were uploaded, are any recent? You can see the date added, there should be photos from at least this year. Does it look like any pics were massively photoshopped or changed?  Do they have at least 10 photos? 
If they have blurred face on their profile, are they willing to send via other means? For eg snapchat, whatsapp, facetime. If they are not willing to do this, it is a BIG RED FLAG.  
4. PNP
Does the provider list PNP? If so, what does that even mean?  My advice is to steer clear from providers, or people in general, who do hard drugs. If you like the look of the provider anyway, reach out ask 'what does PNP mean for you?' The results will vary. Some may say 'oh I like to sometimes take gummies' 'I like to do coke' 'I like to do Tina', 'I don't party but I don't mind if you do'. A good rule is: Only go with providers that do the same level of partying as you do yourself. 
OK SO YOU FINALLY CHOSE THE GUY YOU WANT TO MEET- NOW WHAT?
5. Messaging 
When reaching out - Be direct, polite and clear. Use this template - 
Hello, my name is (desired name) 
I'm in (desired city) and I would like to get together with you (Desired date and time) 
I'm interested in (incall/outcall) and doing (desired information) 
Don't message 'hi how are you?' and nothing else. While that may seem fine to message a friend or someone on a dating app, you wouldn't reach out to another service provider (hairdresser, doctor, cleaner, realtor, chef) and just wait for a reply to that. We don't have time to reply to every message that says "hey".
Please don't say 'I’m looking for fun.' 'I want to feel good.' 'I want to relax'. Its lame and it tells us nothing. Tell us exactly what you are interested in.  
If you use this template you WILL get a good response. Especially of you text it. 
 
6. READ. THE. PROFILE
It's extremely frustrating and annoying when 'clients' reach out and ask questions where the answer is clearly written on the profile. 'How tall are you?' "Do you host?' 'Are you cut or uncut' 'do you top' All of the stats, positions, likes and interests, current city + travel dates - there is a wealth of infomation on our profiles, it will save you time to have a quick read! 
Don't ever message and ask 'What are you into?'  It is not relevant and reeks of someone wanting jerk off material. For providers, it is a huge red flag when ‘clients’ message this.
 
7. Communicate what you are looking for. 
Say what you want. We are not mind readers. We have heard it ALL I assure you. 
 
8. Deposits. 
Deposits. To be or not to be - that is the question! Loathe to hear anyone else opinion on this - don't message me I literally do not care what you have to say- I'm just giving my take as I have been asked about it many times now, that doesn't mean I am asking for yours. 
1. New providers should not be asking for deposits.  
2. You should not be sending a deposit to someone who has no reviews. 
3. Same day in-call appointments should not require a deposit.
4. We do receive a huge amount of fake bookings and if you are wanting an outcall - providing an uber if asked is not unreasonable for a new provider to ensure it is YOU who is not a scammer/flake/pranker. 
If, and only IF -  the provider does have plenty of reviews both here and on rentmen, a SMALL deposit is fine, but really nothing more than $50. If you are wanting an overnight, or the provider to travel a great distance - it is reasonable that small amount would be ratioed taking the distance/time into account.  For eg, I do ask for  the equivalent of 1hr fee as deposit if I am to be booked for overnight, traveling interstate or internationally. 
Some factual background - I require all new clients to send minimal deposit and it has not reduced my workload at all.  The only change I experienced was the rate of cancelations has since reduced to almost zero. (last year only 2 cancellations/no shows the whole YEAR) This year after seeing all the nonsense posted on these boards by Couch Critics, Monday Morning Quarterbacks and just total Clowns - I stopped requesting them for new clients just to see what would happen. The result of the experiment was shocking even to me. A cancelation/ghosting rate of 65% for that month. This percentage rate increased when it was a client who messaged ONLY from rentmen messenger, or a burner phone number (yes we can tell if you are using a burner phone). Whilst the vast majority of people who use this forum are the real deal, please understand that if you say 'just trust me I am coming' the truth is – the stats show that you are more than likely not. 
If you are reaching out to a new provider - they have not earned the rank of being able to request deposits. Ask them if they have no deposit options instead – perhaps for a same day in-call appointment may work. If you are reaching out to an established provider, they may have no-deposit options you can do as well. If you are wanting a longer booking, or for the provider to hold a spot open for you on the just the promise that you will arrive and not a deposit - you may be out of luck. 
A well-reviewed provider will not runway with your $50 when they can make $300 or more by actually seeing you -  and maybe make a new regular client out of you (our best hope!).  
 
9.  Have fun. Be Safe. Use Commonsense. 

I have a 30-inch-wide Inner Strength table, and the masseurs who come to my apartment all compliment it. 

I have a 30-inch-wide Inner Strength table, and the masseurs who come to my apartment all compliment it. 

I have a 30-inch-wide Inner Strength table, and the masseurs who come to my apartment all compliment it. 

Of course, it's not just gay men who are hiring! Two regular providers of mine have said in recent months that about 70% of their clients are straight or bi men, who are often married to women. 

I'm going to weigh in with some advice I flagrantly lifted from Dan Savage:
Fuck before dinner!!
It ensures that everyone is at their best and most prepared when the actual sex happens.  It means you're less likely to limit your actual appetite over dinner.  Dinner becomes a far more comfortable experience.  Rather than being potentially fraught with anxiety (Yes, escorts get anxiety too, with new clients and new situations) dinner becomes much more comfortable and intimate.  A celebration of a job well done on the part of both parties.  Real appetites have been built.  Dinner always tastes better after sex. AND...  It creates an opportunity for a whole other round of sex after dinner.  
It's better in all the ways.  And yes, it works just the same outside of a hiring situation.
Always Team Fuck-Before-Dinner!
 

A lot of truth here.  I will hire one time if I see someone hot and want to sample.  I will hire them over and over if they have a nice personality and don't make the dollar the most important part of the meet.  I have three guys that have been regulars for 3 years now and I go back for more because they just know how to make you feel special when you are with them.  

I've been told something about me (personality, my face) makes it easy for people to talk to me. Some of the stuff I've heard is tragic and some of it the most uplifting.

Like the previous posters have mentioned, I have been told/asked a number of things by providers that isn't something necessarily part of a hiring session. Like about some of the horrible encounters or general bad behavior by clients, but also the positive stuff as well. Even shown awful messages from potential clients who never intended to hire the provider in the first place. I have had providers talk about their significant others (both good and bad)... their families... and other struggles or highlights they might have. I've even had providers trying to get me to hire their SO's. One even offered to bring his SO along for free, at no additional charge, because he trusted me. (His words not mine. I didn't take him up on the offer though.) I've heard it all.
Do I feel guilty in any way? Absolutely not. For one, I'm used to people spilling their guts to me... whether I know them well or not. However, if someone I know and like/love does it, to me it's a sign of the trust they have in me. I see it as a honor in some ways. They put their emotional trust in me which more often than not, as @Nue2thegame stated, the "relationship was strengthened". It is why I think over the years a number of the guys who have retired from providing I still talk to or see on some level.
If you feel guilty in some way because how bad other clients have treated the provider. That I understand and I sympathize. It is and can be a very tough business for provider and client alike.

Oh boy…I’d move on.  It seems like he’d leave as fast as he can no matter what.  The fact he is not being clear on the initial chat screams trouble. 

That’s unfortunate.  I’m on a trip right now with three guys - each of whom I’ve had 5+ trips with (sometimes with two of them together - but this is the first with all three) and I’ve felt just the opposite - knowing each other’s preferences, we all seem to be trying harder to find and capitalize on the “sweet spots” - intellectually and physically.

My companion and I enjoyed our afternoon.  Yes, the place is most definitely geared toward the hetero and not the homo.  Everything is co-ed.  There is no nudity allowed; everyone is in swim suits, at least.  Coverups or t-shirts in the bar/lounge area.   The place (Flatiron location) seemed clean and hygienic.  And maintained.  (Yes I wore slides.)  The pools and rooms were exactly as advertised.  The atmosphere....music, lights, etc...felt like more like a bar or club in which to socialize.  Which is their goal.  A "third space" to be amongst other humans irl in this increasingly online world.
There was A LOT of eye candy.  Like some literal jaw-dropping male beauty.  Albeit str8 guys.
We were the only other male gay "couple" there.  I think there were a few lesbian couples, but could have just been close friends.  We kept any PDA to the barest of minimums.  No one even noticed.  Or cared.  
My deep tissue massage was very good.  Technical.  Professional.  Fully draped.  Not a hint of anything else on offer.  My friend said his was "ah-mazing," but he's 25.  And it was maybe his 2nd professional massage ever.  LOL!  (I have almost 30 years of getting massages on him!)  Nothing crossed any lines for him either.  We talked about it.  And well made up for it later.  😉
It was something new and different to do on a "date."  And I'd considering going back.  
For those who have been DM'ing - if you have other/more specific questions I'll do my best to answer, but not sure there is much else to say.
Love you all, Company!  ❤️

When starting out on my stomach, I always point it down. I feel like this gives a signal to the therapist that I am open as well as allows for "accidental grazing," which is my favorite part of the "will it happen?" What do you guys do?

In a DM exchange on the RentMen site, he referred to my ass as a pussy ... a total turn=off for me, although others may like it. I didn't pursue.

Bozo will be more than happy to be your guinea pig. Just send $500. Bozo accepts Google Pay, Zelle, Paypal, and Venmo.
You will get a full written report.
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I list myself on rentmassuer 
 
https://rentmasseur.com/KneadingM
 
 

I once had an overnight with a client I had seen for a few 1 - 2 hour sessions prior. When it got to 2am I was feeling VERY sleepy, was way past my bed time. The client then explained to me that he was a night shift worker, and expected me to be awake and engaged for the whole evening, which i just simply could not do since I had been up at 7am that morning.  
The variance of what people consider 'normal' or 'commonsense' is vast. 
 
 

A few close friends know that I hire. One of them even knows the specifics, who, where and when, since I share the details with him for safety. He does the same with me, as he also hires.
My doctor isn’t aware of the hiring aspect, though I’m pretty sure he assumes it. He does know that I have an active sex life with multiple partners.