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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Pensant in Escort Market is HOT !   
    This is likely due to increased wages for the lowest wage workers who make those lunches.  Before the pandemic they may have been paying those workers $8-10 an hour depending on where you live, and now they might be paying them $15 an hour.  I do think we are going to see prices for anything that RELIES on low wage workers earning poverty wages increase as those poverty wages are bumped up to something more closely resembling a living wage.  As it should be...
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + azdr0710 in Daytime hotel website   
    I’m pretty sure they don’t offer bargain rates on purpose to avoid attracting a type of client that might not fit in with the types who usually book there.  Sometimes the rates are a huge bargain tho compared to the cost of booking a hotel room overnight when you only need it for a couple hours.  $89 or even $109 vs $189 definitely feels like a great deal to me!
    I too love how convenient the site is to use.
    I used to really LOVE the recharge app when it was doing a similar concept except you could book rooms by the minute, meaning the less time you used them the less you got charged, and you could check out from your phone app as soon as you closed the hotel room door and left, and the charges would stop accruing immediately.  It was the same thing with no cancellation fees and not being charged until you actually checked into the hotel.  Unfortunately that idea didn’t work out or last.  Hope something similar comes back soon tho as it was wildly convenient.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from lonely_john in Escort Market is HOT !   
    This is likely due to increased wages for the lowest wage workers who make those lunches.  Before the pandemic they may have been paying those workers $8-10 an hour depending on where you live, and now they might be paying them $15 an hour.  I do think we are going to see prices for anything that RELIES on low wage workers earning poverty wages increase as those poverty wages are bumped up to something more closely resembling a living wage.  As it should be...
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + FrankR in Escort Market is HOT !   
    Wow, maybe I need to check out Munich!  I thought it was still too early to go to Europe, so this is good to hear.  I am curious about how Berlin and Barcelona are doing with their opening up process.
    I do think that rates are going to settle higher.  I’ve been able to charge more off RM right now in SF/NYC/Atlanta than I ever have before.  I purposely raised my rates due to too much demand, as I needed to have natural days off in my schedule and I was getting booked almost every day.  I’m still experiencing pretty good demand even at the higher rates.  I still saw multiple clients a day on tour and walked away with a good profit.
    Rates in the gay side of the industry have been long overdue for a bump anyway.  Women who escort have been charging 300-700 an hour for over a decade.  I’m not saying that the average rate is going to go up that high, but I think people need to stop being shocked that the market will bear rates at the upper end of that range.  300-500 is a more reasonable average rate to match pace with the cost of living in most cities where rent is 1-2K+.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + tassojunior in Escort Market is HOT !   
    Wow, maybe I need to check out Munich!  I thought it was still too early to go to Europe, so this is good to hear.  I am curious about how Berlin and Barcelona are doing with their opening up process.
    I do think that rates are going to settle higher.  I’ve been able to charge more off RM right now in SF/NYC/Atlanta than I ever have before.  I purposely raised my rates due to too much demand, as I needed to have natural days off in my schedule and I was getting booked almost every day.  I’m still experiencing pretty good demand even at the higher rates.  I still saw multiple clients a day on tour and walked away with a good profit.
    Rates in the gay side of the industry have been long overdue for a bump anyway.  Women who escort have been charging 300-700 an hour for over a decade.  I’m not saying that the average rate is going to go up that high, but I think people need to stop being shocked that the market will bear rates at the upper end of that range.  300-500 is a more reasonable average rate to match pace with the cost of living in most cities where rent is 1-2K+.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from lonely_john in Escort Market is HOT !   
    Wow, maybe I need to check out Munich!  I thought it was still too early to go to Europe, so this is good to hear.  I am curious about how Berlin and Barcelona are doing with their opening up process.
    I do think that rates are going to settle higher.  I’ve been able to charge more off RM right now in SF/NYC/Atlanta than I ever have before.  I purposely raised my rates due to too much demand, as I needed to have natural days off in my schedule and I was getting booked almost every day.  I’m still experiencing pretty good demand even at the higher rates.  I still saw multiple clients a day on tour and walked away with a good profit.
    Rates in the gay side of the industry have been long overdue for a bump anyway.  Women who escort have been charging 300-700 an hour for over a decade.  I’m not saying that the average rate is going to go up that high, but I think people need to stop being shocked that the market will bear rates at the upper end of that range.  300-500 is a more reasonable average rate to match pace with the cost of living in most cities where rent is 1-2K+.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + tassojunior in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    Lol I was about to comment similarly.
    I paid a deposit to schedule my first massage with a new massage therapist.  They were a stranger but came recommended by a friend.  The recommendation from a mutual friend did NOT stop me from being required to make a deposit.  I didn’t like making the deposit digitally.  I would have preferred to pay the entire balance in cash.  I started adding my deposit for the next session to my balance and tip at the end of my previous session just so I could take care of the deposit in cash.  Never did I ever think that I should be offended that this service provider wanted me to make a deposit in order to schedule.  Time is money.  And in an unregulated industry without any accountability mechanisms, a deposit is the only way to ensure that your time is compensated for.
    If someone literally does sit around their Incall all day, or host from home, where they’re usually hanging out, I can understand not needing to require deposits.  But it would be really nice if clients would be less offended when people in different circumstances do ask for them.  For example, suppose I am renting a hotel room off dayuse to host every client, and it costs me $90 to do so.  Is it really that crazy for me to ask for a $100 deposit before I do so?  That’s not even compensating for my time.  That’s gas money and hotel fee.
    Currently I don’t even ask for deposits unless I am arranging to travel far to meet someone. Because I feel that the request is treated with hostility and suspicion on Rentmen.
    All that said, with regard to the escort mentioned in the OP, although I feel for his frustration, there was no need to punch down at street workers and degrade them out of frustration over people questioning his deposit requirements. That’s kind of ugly.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Whippoorwill in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from MikeBiDude in Daytime hotel website   
    I’m pretty sure they don’t offer bargain rates on purpose to avoid attracting a type of client that might not fit in with the types who usually book there.  Sometimes the rates are a huge bargain tho compared to the cost of booking a hotel room overnight when you only need it for a couple hours.  $89 or even $109 vs $189 definitely feels like a great deal to me!
    I too love how convenient the site is to use.
    I used to really LOVE the recharge app when it was doing a similar concept except you could book rooms by the minute, meaning the less time you used them the less you got charged, and you could check out from your phone app as soon as you closed the hotel room door and left, and the charges would stop accruing immediately.  It was the same thing with no cancellation fees and not being charged until you actually checked into the hotel.  Unfortunately that idea didn’t work out or last.  Hope something similar comes back soon tho as it was wildly convenient.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Luv2play in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    I agree that I really wish we could post rates. A lot of other escort sites out there allow it, but unfortunately RM does not.  I did add a line at the bottom of my ad stating that “I prefer quality over quantity and charge accordingly”.  Hopefully that will at least stop the guys who are looking for a basement bargain from wasting their time and mine.  I think because I look so young I still get a lot of guys messaging me who think they’re going to be able to talk me into spending the night with them for what turns out to be less than my two hour rate...
    If anyone can think of an even less offensive way to phrase this please let me know.  The quality over quantity phrase does ring true to my personal experience as I can definitely give higher quality service when I only meet a few clients a week than when I meet one or more every day.  Don’t want to come off rude tho.  Just clear.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Luv2play in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    Rates in this industry have been long overdue for a raise for a very long time.  Escort rates did NOT rise with inflation.  Anyone who is increasing their rates suddenly may have simply realized that they are LONG overdue to give themselves a raise and have had a realistic conversation with themselves about how much they need to charge for it to feel worth their while.
    I do really agree with the sentiment also that many clients take rates way too personally.  Although I would be more likely to negotiate with an old regular the old fashioned way over a rate increase than to draw a hard line in the sand, ultimately, asking a regular to pay a new rate is a relationship-preserving move. After some time receiving a new rate from other clients, seeing someone at a lower rate can start to feel bad, like we are doing the same amount or more work for less money every time we see them, which is a feeling that adds up over time even if we brush it off at first.  Clients who pay the new rate grow with us and allow us to grow as individuals and professionals just like in any other line of work where someone would advance and get raises.
    The observation about supply and demand is also VERY real!  My minimum session fee starts at $400 now myself, and I can’t tell you how downright furious some guys get with me after I quote them!  Furious and abusive!  They take it SO personally that I charge what I do and unleash a barrage of insults about how I’m not “worth” that much or how stuck up I must be.  Really- they are taking it way too personally when it’s literally an issue of supply and demand.  I was charging less just 4-6 months ago and I was WAY busier than I actually wanted to be.  To the point where I would ignore good inquiries because I was worn out and the money didn’t feel worth the effort that day... I needed days off.  Now I charge more and my calendar fills up sufficiently at this rate to satisfy both my available time/energy and my financial needs.  Simple supply and demand.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Lucky in Overweight clients   
    Lol never encountered an “overtrained hole” before.  Is there any such thing as overtrained?  The more you train the more capable you become, generally.  The most advanced trained holes I’ve ever met can do some truly amazing things... 😉
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from HungreeMunkee69 in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + BenjaminNicholas in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    Rates in this industry have been long overdue for a raise for a very long time.  Escort rates did NOT rise with inflation.  Anyone who is increasing their rates suddenly may have simply realized that they are LONG overdue to give themselves a raise and have had a realistic conversation with themselves about how much they need to charge for it to feel worth their while.
    I do really agree with the sentiment also that many clients take rates way too personally.  Although I would be more likely to negotiate with an old regular the old fashioned way over a rate increase than to draw a hard line in the sand, ultimately, asking a regular to pay a new rate is a relationship-preserving move. After some time receiving a new rate from other clients, seeing someone at a lower rate can start to feel bad, like we are doing the same amount or more work for less money every time we see them, which is a feeling that adds up over time even if we brush it off at first.  Clients who pay the new rate grow with us and allow us to grow as individuals and professionals just like in any other line of work where someone would advance and get raises.
    The observation about supply and demand is also VERY real!  My minimum session fee starts at $400 now myself, and I can’t tell you how downright furious some guys get with me after I quote them!  Furious and abusive!  They take it SO personally that I charge what I do and unleash a barrage of insults about how I’m not “worth” that much or how stuck up I must be.  Really- they are taking it way too personally when it’s literally an issue of supply and demand.  I was charging less just 4-6 months ago and I was WAY busier than I actually wanted to be.  To the point where I would ignore good inquiries because I was worn out and the money didn’t feel worth the effort that day... I needed days off.  Now I charge more and my calendar fills up sufficiently at this rate to satisfy both my available time/energy and my financial needs.  Simple supply and demand.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from timj in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + azdr0710 in Links to members' RM ads?   
    Lol thank you I suppose I could have done that as well 😅😋
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + azdr0710 in Links to members' RM ads?   
    Well, here's this for now.....
    https://rentmen.eu/FFHoleWhisperer
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Vulgarii in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from musclestuduws in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + tassojunior in Jake Ryan Straight 9" $1,500/hr   
    LOL someone please forward these to the multiple strangers who went into an absolute rage over text/messenger this week when I quoted my rates to them 😂
    In all seriousness, this escort(/agency) is smart tho and I bet he does very well.
    The truth is that some percentage of clients doesn’t care about the price tag at all.  And will readily pay almost anything you ask for.  Yes including $1500.  I’ve had clients of means *voluntarily* send me $1500 at once just for talking to them.  Or send me $500 out of the blue when we aren’t even talking.  And besides them, an even larger percentage of the population has the means to save up for something if/when they truly want it.  The $1-2K price tag on an iPhone doesn’t stop hourly workers from buying them, for example.  People figure out how to make something work financially if they want it badly enough.
    One man’s ‘meh’ is another man’s “GOTTA HAVE IT!”  Never underestimate the power of having a specific niche 😎
     
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from mike carey in Links to members' RM ads?   
    Hmm doesn’t show on my phone in either view.  That’s good to know that it still works on desktop tho!  Hope we can get it working for the mobile version too.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + Charlie in Would you go out with a trans man?   
    Why did you think that? I have been sexually attracted to all kinds of men, regardless of age, height, weight, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, physical characteristics--why would his previous gender be an automatic turn-off? It's hard to pin down exactly what it is about an individual that turns me on, but I know it when I feel it.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + Charlie in Would you go out with a trans man?   
    The fact that he is a trans man wouldn't be of interest to me, either for or against. It's still a matter of whether I am attracted to the individual.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + FrankR in Would you go out with a trans man?   
    That really depends on the man in question. I don’t seek out trans men, nor do I lose interest just because they are trans. My basic criteria remains the same.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to + sync in Escorts who double their rates after a couple of years   
    The rise in escort/masseur rates seems logical and inevitable considering the continuing rise of the cost-of-living expenses.  I can't speak for other clients, but the continuing rise of the cost-of-living expenses has certainly curtailed (sharply) my participation in the "game."
    It is unfortunate that there is not a discreet method for escorts to display their rates in their advertising.  A clear statement of their rates in their ads would (should) stop, or at least decrease, calls from potential clients who are either not prepared to or are unwilling to meet their price point(s).
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