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Well, if you read some of the things I and another discussed above, you’ll start to understand why some may do that. I ask for a deposit. Gay men who are hiring gay providers need to: #1: practice being less dismissive #2: practice being less passive aggressive People just to conclusions and automatically assume someone is a scam because they ask for deposit. Granted, on Grindr, which is a free site...you really can’t be guaranteed anything because it’s a free site with very little verification. But if people book on there, it’s the risk that’s taken. That’s why I don’t sell my services on Grindr. I want to be able to say, “hey, I paid for this ad. I’m not a scammer or a cop. Why the fuck would I pay $30, $40, even $80 a month, every month, with the SAME profile I’ve had month AFTER month.... to advertise on a platform, if I was not serious about my craft?” If paying for a deposit is a scary thing, ASK. If someone says how do I know you’re not a scammer? I’ll send them my card or other ad links. I could also send them my https://justfor.fans/JarrodBrandonXX?tab=AddMedia to show, I’m an actual guy, who’s into fucking other guys. Plus, most times if you question a scammer, you’ll get either a robotic response, or non at all. I know there’s still going to be a lot of wary and scammers, but a deposit isn’t going to be an automatic red flag.

Lol, exactly like that. However, in the case of the one I mentioned above...it appeared he was a local distance, and further screening seemed to reveal it was a person local to the area as well. So, perhaps it was just a lazy person trying to hookup versus a scammer. But definitely anyone 5,000 miles away is going to be fake. I want to keep my a4a, considering it’s a good price for all the listings. And it’s particularly helpful in smaller markets. But I don’t know what more to do. There’s no real system that works with that site. Sometimes I can’t even get to the deposit part, or the confirming part, because many of them will sound real genuine, and just out of nowhere flake and stop responding to messages. I send them real professional instructions on how to schedule, and there’s no regard for it. I can see them reading the messages, and I may even follow up. And they still read it, and don’t respond. Actually, the only system that does work is blocking anyone who randomly stops responding to messages, and making sure any contacts are done off the site. But in the case of 1 stat man...he ended up contacting me off site, with his phone number, but it was only to ask for my private pictures. When I unlocked, he 1 claimed he couldn’t see them because he was at work (what the fuck does that have to do with it, don’t you have data?), and 2 he didn’t respond and lied to my assistant about not seeing the screenshot of my ad I sent him. That’s exactly why I said in my other thread, that site has become a scam because the people using it are fraudulent. I’m going to write to them and include a link to this thread, and tell them if they can’t figure out a way to keep scammers off their site, I’m pulling my membership. It may be something as simple as making it mandatory for users to fill out ALL info AND to have a PIC. I recently stopped taking clients who contact who don’t have a profile pic.

You are spot on, 100 PERCENT! It’s exactly what I was discussing in my other thread, tired. As a provider, I have cash app along with 2 other apps. Because of the exact issues you mentioned, I tend to ask clients who want me to host to make a deposit. Few things is more concerning and frustrating than giving out an address to someone, and they cancel or don’t show up. I’m aware that there are scammers out there doing something dishonest, but it’s not all. In my case, this would be a typical reply someone would get: “So that I can confirm this visit, please send $$ to one of my booking links, so that I know this is an appointment being made. You may do so via one of the following:” I don’t know what’s going on with adam4adam. I’m also noticing something else, where it seems people are creating profiles...not necessarily of someone else, but perhaps themselves. And it’s just 1 picture with 1 bit of information, such as their age. One yesterday even gave me his number and he seemed local. But sure enough, he flaked out, after 10 minutes went by of him sending me a message asking for pics. Saying, “nevermind I guess, sorry to have bothered you.” And then didn’t respond back to any of my other messages I sent to arrange the appointment. https://m.adam4adam.com/profile/view/wwez There was a follow up with him today, and sure enough he gave some lame excuse about having not received the pics I sent (likely because he blocked me shortly after sending the above message). That’s exactly why my blocked list on adam4adam is LONG. Something like 9 pages. They need to stop letting people fill out half ass information. Make them fill out the WHOLE profile, as a minimum. They letting too many slip thru the cracks.

Depends what you mean, an exit from my current market or the biz in general? If it’s an exit from my current market, then yes. And that could be soon as next week. If it’s from the biz, that’s something that I wouldn’t be able to put into action right away, but it could be the next step once the first is completed. But it wouldn’t be a full exit. Mostly likely I would just cut out certain platforms: Adam4Adam is likely going to be the first to get phased out. I mean, it’s getting me clients (though something to the tune of one or two every couple of weeks)...but when I evaluate which sites are doing what, a4a continues to be the place with the most prospective clients...who fail to schedule. So perhaps I can cut that, and add a small outside job to replace it.

Thanks for the well thought out response. The advice is all taken into consideration, and will certainly add layers to the ever evolving creativity that’s necessary, to stay relevant and maintain stability in this business. I recently did a thing on my ad that specifically mentions “if you want me to host” and “if you want me to come to you”. And outlined the parameters necessary. I’ll be using those to remind clients when they contact me and ask if I’m available “now”. Of course, some people like to intentionally not follow directions, or they make it seem like they did read it and will follow thru. I spoke with one of my regular clients today, who confessed up and told me, that this town I’m in is not good for escorts, and has a bad reputation. He said it’s never been a good market for us. So if a CLIENT is saying that, obviously he’s heard it from other providers as well. So, going forward that’s the 1st and foremost thing I will be aiming to resolve going into the end of the month. I reached out to a different client who lives about 4 hours away, and he’s going to be willing to help me with a place to dock at for a little while. He’s offered it before, but I’m always a bit considerate when it comes down to living situations with clients. But I feel like a refugee, trying to make an exodus lol. The market I’m in is really that bad. I can’t take another month of it. Idiots, flakes, and bullshitters. That’s all I deal with, day after day after day in this area. And corona virus isn’t the reason, because it was this way prior to it. But it is 1 more thing that adds to the frustration. The issue has opened doors to reach some new clients, but in reality the situation has become so deep, I have to make a move. I’d like to get back into a couple other career paths I had in mind, but with my current situation...all eyes are on getting out of the current rut, back into my own incall spot, and then get some essentials sorted. There’s always room to talk about finding a job or career, and that’s fine..but getting money isn’t the issue (and I had a long sermon with a couple friends about this, earlier this year). The issue is everytime I turn my back, there’s some new bullshit fucking up my momentum. Last year it was SESTA/FOSTA, this year its Coronavirus, a time before that it was Rentboy shutdown, then the Trump election, and now I’m having other personal issues going on. And on top of all of that, I’m dealing with morons round the clock. How in the world does one bounce back from that? How funny. Well it actually reminds me of a story one of my wealthy clients told me, about an employee he found out was stealing from his medical practice, and was caught on video. He told her, “how would you like it if I went and called your husband and told him what you’re doing?” I’m not 1 to go around and be outing people, and I’ve actually cut back on some of my cancel protocols and such due to the times we are in. But it’s people like the jerk I mentioned, who make me revert. And it’s not just him. It’s one jerk after the next. When I reach out to RentMen, they don’t always have a solution when it’s off their platform. Other sites like a4a do virtually nothing. So therefore, it’s ultimately up to me to handle it.

So...would it have made you feel safer if you went to his place, and the brass knuckles fell out of the bag? Maybe it’s for protection of sorts? I’m aware some people feel it’s more safe to go visit someone’s place than their own, and it some ways it “can” be. However, in my experience...all of my most close calls where I felt in imminent danger, happened to all have been outcalls. Just food for thought, not swaying your decision 1 way or another. Actually I’ll add an interesting caveat: it seems like freebie hookups are generally the ones who want me to come over, whereas it’s clients who generally want me to host. My biggest pet peeve is when I go out my way to get a hotel room all to myself for a couple days, and spend all day trying to get some, but nobody wants to come over. They want me to leave my hotel room and come to them (happened on my 1 night trip to San Diego over Veterans Day) That’s why I mainly only host “by appointment only”.

Thankyou. And good points, but trust...despite the frustration I don’t let these imbeciles mess up my day. I’m experienced enough to know the point of no return. For 1, I never reserve hotel time for new clients without a deposit. Unless they sound absolutely genuine and proven. The problem is, it’s become too prevalent. And when finances are at stake, I don’t have the patience and will to deal with 1 idiot after the next, requesting appointments, and then not having the decency to follow thru. It’s almost like I’m being scammed. Scammed by the sites I pay to find clients, and scammed by the potential clients who lie about wanting to pay me. That’s fraud, and it’s fraudulent. All the potential clients doing that are low-key criminal shiesters. That’s why I don’t give them too many chances, and am willing to bust their balls and burn their bridges the FIRST time they flake. One guy last week, he wanted to go back and forth about scheduling, saying he wants to meet a noon or 1230 (which I had to make special concessions to do), then he tells me he has things to do, and how long will I be in town. I said SEND ME MY $100 CANCELLATION FEE, AND FORGET IT! And then he quickly figured out a way to show up. Another guy, I’ve told him I’m contacting his mother and father tomorrow if I don’t get my reimbursement. Because this has been the 3rd or 4th time he’s wasted my time. He already knows, I told him last year to stop contacting me. It’s one thing to inquire about a service, and be uncertain, and leave your options open. Or to just inquire and get quotes and such. But integrity would tell someone when you’re dealing with 1 person, have some tact and class. What’s worse is, some talk about making plans and then don’t respond. It’s like they look right in my face and LIE, and don’t have the balls to just be real. And I hate to come off offensive, and I’m not judgmental. But the worst part of it is, lot of these guys playing these games aren’t really attractive to begin with. They have us jumping over hoops, and then turn out to be out of shape, lacking in hygiene, or just boring/inexperienced in bed. I know the above won’t be popular and sounds harsh, but the point is: Guys underestimate our leniency. I look past all of those things, to create a fun experience. But don’t insult my intelligence by trying to play hard to get, in order for me to aimlessly pursue you, in an attempt to build your ego. Because I’m going to peep the game real quick, and cut you. Off. PERIOD. This Chardonnay ? ? is letting everything out, unfiltered tonight. Thankyou, Fetzer vineyards.

Nobody is making them do it though. I don’t call them, they call me. If they had any real integrity about guilty feelings and abiding by the rules, they wouldn’t be online cruising for a bruising to begin with. But it once again it goes back to the general reason of why I’m tired. I didn't sign up to be a therapist or mental health analyst. They need to get their head straight before they contact me. And I wrote a letter to RENTMEN they need to start doing more instead of just collecting our money. Give providers a private portal to review and discuss bad clients, just like clients can do for us. Perhaps if an escort can see that 2 or 3 other providers negatively reviewed a client, they won’t be so quick to give extra “chance”. They get 1 time to do right, one slip up is all you get, if they even get a chance to book PERIOD.

Re: other career paths, I do have some in mind...but due to logistics over the past few months, I haven’t been able to get a stepping stone to much of anything outside of. Moving to a new market is what I want and need, but each time I strategize to make the move, I get throttled. In some ways I am too busy with this, to step into something else. I know it sounds crazy, but it’s almost like how some business owners are stuck in what they do, even though they may not necessarily be in the best position. There’s customers, there are ads, then there’s the money aspect. It’s like everytime l start thinking about stepping out and into something else, I have clients scheduling and money to be made. But how I feel now, I’m done dealing. My current market just has too many damn weirdo clients. If it’s not a guy calling me 50 times in a day, it’s a guy who ends the session soon after he cums. Then books again, only to do it again. Or the client who blocked before and slipped thru the cracks. Then there’s the one’s who go back and forth on the scheduling, not really able to plan anything. How in the world am I supposed to do this and have a 2nd job, when many can only meet “around lunchtime”, oftentimes wanting to meet at exactly the same time. I had that happen twice this week. 4 clients all wanting to meet at the same time (2 wanted to meet in afternoon, 2 wanted to meet in he evening), and the other being unable to reschedule until some phantom day in the future. Not to mention, adam4adam is once again becoming the #1 timewasting site. As much as I’ve applauded it’s effectiveness over the years, I’m seriously considering dropping it. Or at the very least, doing what porn star Ray Dalton told me he does, he never reads/responds to messages there. He just leaves his phone number, and those who contact by phone are the ones who are serious. The rest of those jokers can keep waiting.

That is true re: all businesses having Timewaster’s. I spent the night with one of my friend’s the other day, and he’s working from home doing insurance sales. After one of his calls, I heard him say, “bitch”. HOWEVER, he also has a nice apartment in the city, and is making a living. In my case, it has been an on-going journey to get back to having my own spot. I’ve been looking everyday, in surrounding cities (because no way in hell will I be attempting that in my current market), for a new incall location. But it feels all in vain and keeps being thwarted, because I’ll see one or 2 good clients, but then have 15-20 Timewasters. All these silly RentMen messenger responses, and vague texts round the clock. This is not how I envisioned the business would look like in my 30s. I’m babysitting. I’m dealing with a plethora of men children who seem to have never learned how to properly approach another man. Again, it could be (actually, IT IS) a situation of location, as any market situated in a conservative, backwards, closed minded, repressed location is bound to breed those types. Those same types may be a bulk of our clients, and prove to be an advantage. But the problem is one may only be working with a small number of those types, disproportionately to the size of the city.

Even though I’ve mentioned about being content with the level of biz even during the times, another part of me is just on the verge of moving on. And now that the pandemic is loosening up, the bored and restless are coming out the woodwork. Despite the success of biz, I’m just disappointed at the fact that more and more, it feels like I’m dealing with a lot of unstable people day after day. I don’t know if it’s because I’m located in a hateful “Midwest” town, coupled with being located in a few upsetting towns have proven especially strenuous on my tolerance. It seems there’s only a few select cities in this country that I can say, really have a steady flow. I think that’s the problem, this business just isn’t going to be worth doing in a vastly majority of places. Sure, one can get a client in any city at any time, but what is it to just get booked once a week, and then have to fight to book it because people don’t prioritize their requests. To put it frank, I’m just tired of dealing with stupid people ALL WEEK LONG. The constant contacting for a session, and then failing to follow up and respond is beyond exhausting and childish. I’m dealing with grown men, well into their 40s and 50s doing this. It’s no excuse for it. No matter how professional and forgiving I try to be with these people, they have some kind of repression in their minds, which makes them behave that way. At this point, I just don’t know. It’s certainly not the frame of mind I want to be in for a holiday...but I’m just in that zone right now.

But thing is, this thread wasn’t about “hyper inflated” $300+ rates. It was a general “will you lower your rates” question. It’s certainly a broad answer. Will a masseur who charges $100 lower their rates? Will an escort charging $150 lower his rates? Not to mention, there is no “list” price anymore with the current trend of sites not letting us post rates. So therefore, clients have to recognize that the prices they get might not be what they expected or wanted to hear.

I like the first part of your answer, but the 2nd part is overkill. There was a member in another thread telling me about not “burning bridges”, but certain phrases are bridge burners lol. I think something like, “that’s higher than my budget will allow” leaves the door open for negotiation, without directly “insulting” or insinuating the escort is overpriced or not worth what they are asking. A person may counter, “what is your budget?” And you can reply “$250.” And then he can say, “I’ll consider it for this time around being you’re a first time client and want to see me, and in future sessions we can perhaps arrange something that’ll work for both.” But don’t be a prick and then cancel once agreed (goes for both parties).

I agree, in a normal sense. But I’ve also played the “give him 1 more, 2 more, 5 more chances”. In my experience, dealing with these guys...the first time they show signs of flaky, shiesty or inconsiderate behavior, is always a prelude to how they’ll be on future arrangements. Some of them never change, and their bridges have to be demolished. I just had someone today who did that. This guy has been a known timewaster in my book, and I previously blocked him when I used to use google voice, but I switched to iMessages. I ignored him back in January, then he comes around again today. Local guy, this time he sounded a bit more cooperative about how I do things. I also took a pic of my ad, and sent it to him highlighting that if he’s asking to meet today, he has to note how I would like to go about same day bookings. Everything seemed to be a go, even after sending me his address. Sure enough, he cancelled just a few minutes later. That’s why in many cases it’s important to block people. The difference with the business versus some others, is people out here can either be overly fanatical, or spiteful. I can be spiteful too, but I don’t have time for that. But I will be reporting him to RentMen, and hopefully they’ll take care of him.

Makes sense...most times I’m more willing to accept a last minute outcall (your place) than a last minute incall (my place). Like I said, last minute incalls usually flake. A guy who can host seems to be more serious than a guy trying to see if another man can host. It also just comes off different. I won’t be mad at a guy asking me to come over the day of. But like I said in another thread, them asking to come to me as an only option gives off a pushy vibe. Like this example I posted: My masseur move 3 yr ago and haven't found a replacement, I think we been together once. Are you able to host today? Followed by: I just seen that you are not in kc, guess u will not be able to get together He shoulda got a room if it’s that big of a deal lol. That’s the type of last minute stuff I don’t like. Why is he asking me if I can host today, if he seen I wasn’t in KC? And I actually was in KC, but I had somewhere to be out of state that evening, so I wasn’t going to be hosting. Problem is, hotel outcalls are obviously at an all time low right now. Even before now, hotel outcalls were lower than 10 years ago.

Hate to be sarcastic, but what economic devastation? It’s easy to get sucked into the random choice words that get thrown out on TV and media. And of course fear can push people into making desperate moves that don’t give justice. However, it requires careful listening and assessment to determine what exactly is going on. If anything, everything that has happened is a window to opportunity. Less escorts/masseurs across the board is the 1st window. Since the start of the pandemonium, I’ve seen all types. One worked for Costco. Another was a hotel owner. Another was an electrician for a wealthy part of Arkansas. The tricky part is, not everyone is experiencing the same level of economic devastation. Some people and businesses are bankrolling. The SBA loans, the extra workload, the laid off employees...all amounts to extra money to spare. It’s like when a (comparing once again to a familiar disaster) hurricane strikes. They talk all about the devastation, but they don’t talk about the roofers who are making BILLIONS. I used to have a client who was one, he never left less than $300 sitting on the dresser. AND he would pay for the hotel, and let me keep it. Unlike these other cheap mofos out here that get on my last nerve. Some men, especially gay men, will always try to find an excuse to be CHEAP. Even before the pandemic. I met a previous client who was great the first time, but recently told me he was laid off and unemployed. However, I remember last year, he was talking about his budget and such when we tried to set up a 2nd meet. There’s no need to lie. I already know what they’re thinking. Some guys will pay a guy 1 time just for the experience, and then fail to make it happen again. They may even “try” to reconnect, but purposely say or do things to NOT make it happen. Just like this one email from someone: My masseur move 3 yr ago and haven't found a replacement. I think you and I have been together once. Are you able to host today? Immediately followed by: I just seen that you are not in kc, guess u will not be able to get together So this guy hasn’t found a replacement masseur in 3 years? I can see why. He’s probably annoyed every provider he’s contacted lol. It doesn’t bother me if someone is having financial problems, but what blows me is when guys have the means, but want to be stingy with their sexual partners. So I absolutely won’t be lowering my rates due to the pandemic, and so far I’ve still not met anyone for under 200 lately. Why would I? If I’m only seeing 1 or 2 clients a week due to: 1. fewer clients due to the health aspects, and 2. Less clients due to the money aspects. So yeah I absolutely won’t be. One guy yesterday on adam4adam (which I’m once again considering withdrawing my membership from) offered to f**k $50. I referred him to my JFF page ?

So were you hosting this, or was the provider hosting?

Hmmm...good points overall, but I strongly have to counter this one. I’ve had same day appointments involve some terrible misunderstandings. I’ve had to cut ties with regulars over same day sessions. Most of my missed sessions, have been based on same day bookings. Usually it’s due to the client being short on time, or inflexible, or something involving the hotel (directions, location, check in/check out times) that causes it. Even back when I had my own place, some clients would contact me moments after I had left my apartment asking to come over. Almost as if they were watching me leave lol. I remember a time I was stuck in traffic only 20 miles from having just left to go out of town, when my favorite regular client asked to come over. I’m like dude, I just left the house ??‍♂️ It’s amazing how many missed connections could have been avoided, if appointments were simply planned a little more ahead. And I’m not even talking days and weeks ahead. I’m talking like a mere few hours. E.g., contacting at 9:30 am for an evening session, instead of contacting at 9:30 pm for an evening session. Some clients try to use the reasoning, “I can’t tell if or when I’m going to be horny, so I have to only call when I am.” So what if I was to say the same thing, and every other time you called because you were horny, I wasn’t horny? One of my regulars from years ago used to say that, yet it was very predictable he would call me every 2 or 3 Sunday’s over a course of a couple years...once in awhile on a weekday. I didn’t mind at the time because I had my own place, and he lived in the same neighborhood. But there was a couple of times where he’d call the day of, and I would tell him...I’m not available on short notice today. At the end of the day though, I realize in the biz...you just have to be available, convenient and ready. Sometimes within 15 minutes. And have your own place in the city. This business is built on instant gratification and convenience. It used to be a perk to have your own transportation (which I guess isn’t a big deal now with Uber and Lyft). At the same time, even when I set a day to be available, ready and in the city...I still only get 1 or maybe 2 if I’m lucky, people show up when I do. And mainly because they planned ahead. The same day-ers are usually the ones who don’t show up. That’s why I tell clients, it’s no point in me being available 24/7, in order to be ready when they are ready. Most of my appointments are booked in advance. Therefore I have to go on about my life outside of those times, if you happen to contact me when I’m living my life, be prepared to coordinate something in the near future, rather than expect instant attention.

I’ll also mention, when people don’t plan...it never fails that irony has it, 2 clients will want to try and book at exactly the same time...and one has to get dropped. Happens far too often. Had it happen today. I tried to schedule the other for 30 min to an hour after the first, but he couldn’t make it. Since then, I’ve had no incalls all day. And likely won’t because everytime I host in certain cities, it’s always only 1 client show up that day. I tried to host on set days of the week, that didn’t work because it don’t work with other’s schedules. And clients sometimes say, “well don’t get a hotel just for me”. For one, it’s not just for them. I stay there too. And if I have other appointments come in, I’ll take then. But if I don’t have an appointment booked...I’m never going to just be hosting just to host. I had to explain this very clearly to a client earlier today in person: I am not going to just leave my house and go get a hotel, just to stare at the 4 walls, with no appointments planned. Because that’s exactly what will happen if nothing is scheduled nowadays. He says, “I can come to you, if you’re already in a hotel”. No. It doesn’t work that way. They have to plan, it can’t just be when they “feel the urge” and “catch me by chance”. Either I won’t host at all, or I’m going to host in the way that’s going to make the most sense. Even when I’m out of town, staying in hotels...I have to clock these jokers like non other. Had one the other day claim he arrived to my hotel. Then he left claiming he didn’t see me (he didn’t want to provide a phone number, so I didn’t provide a room number until he arrived...which he never did). Smart me, I requested a late checkout and wasn’t going to pay for another night until I seen his money in my hand. And then I would go ahead and extend the reservation, because he already went from meeting at 11 am to 15 minutes after noon to “show up”. One of my boy toys had an apartment and invited me to stay over, so there was no reason to waste extra money on a hotel...and sure enough, nobody else requested a session that day. I know this biz like the back of my hand lol.

No because it’s more expensive to be in the cities you listed. If anything it would be the other way around. If I go to a city that’s less popular with the trade, I’m going to want the same or more. I told one client that, who’s a regular and wanted to negotiate. I’m like no...I’m already going to a town where I’m not likely to get any clients as it is (rural Midwest town), and I’d have to host. So that’s losing money on top of money lost for hotel. Why would I want to get less. On the other hand, if it’s more than a 1 night weekend, then perhaps a discounted next day rate would be approachable.

Yeah, but that was a good idea about the person suggesting to write up a template. I was actually doing that for a short period, with a picture of the template I would send to clients. That may work since people seem to skip over things. But actually, I’ve also sent clients pictures of my ad, highlighting the part of my ad that answers the very thing they’ve asked. Some seem to make it feel as if I’m suggesting they are dumb, but if they’re dumb enough to not read it, I have no qualms making them feel dumb lol. At the end of the day, sometimes I think these guys know what they’re doing. They’re not dumb, they’re just intentionally trying to make something not work out in some cases. They aren’t 5 year olds. They just think they are more important, and that we don’t deserve to be treated as something to be scheduled. If they can plan with other people and things they have to do, they can do it with us.

That’s the thing. Just like I said in another post, Ask and Coordinate. You’re never going to know. Remember each escort has a life of their own. It’s not going to be the same for each and every escort. Clients try to guess and gauge, and that’s when we get annoyed. No guessing or assumptions. ASK with the intent that you probably won’t get an appointment that same day. If you do great, but if it’s the only day of the year you can meet...they should have booked it like a plane ticket. Like one client who I had to dump: he asked me twice, “by chance are you available”. The first time I was. The 2nd time, I was, but once again...him wanting me to host with short notice, and by a certain time. Couldn’t do it, so we discussed another day. Then he couldn’t stick to it. So I dumped him. I won’t be toyed with like that. Rushing me around last minute, and then cancelling when we try to plan ahead to get the time they want. I insulted one guy awhile back. I said, “You claim to be a college graduate, so are you playing dumb, or can you just not read?” At the time, I specifically said I don’t host same day notice appointments. He texts me after the gym, when I’m high on testosterone, asking if he can come over for an incall TONIGHT. And it was already after 7 pm. Some people admit they don’t bother to read ads. I told one guy yesterday, if you choose to disregard, don’t be surprised! I don’t spend time writing these ads, for decoration.

Lol the first part sounds about right, but not so much the 2nd. What did we learn from rentboy and the college admissions scandals? That said...being this thread is similar to my recent post, I don’t mind same day or advance appointments. Neither is bad or less productive in of itself. But it’s more about how one goes about it.

I also realize this issue is especially prone in smaller markets and cities. In places like DC and San Fran, I have had trips where all my calls the whole trip were outcalls. But in middle American cities, like Kansas City: Hardly any client can host. It’s almost like they are terrified of having another type of man seen knocking on the door or something. Who knows. Idk

That’s a good point. However, I make that clear already in my ad and over initial texts. I say it atleast 2 or 3 times: 1 in my ad, 2 over text during the initial request, and 3 usually again as a reminder. I also mention that because when I’m in my home base, I generally only host after 2 and before 11 am. However, more often than not...they either: A) can’t plan in advance B) can’t meet during the times I have available Just today I had 2 clients who requested in calls (one included the message above). One of them, I reached out to yesterday early afternoon around 1:30 to let me know what we can arrange...didn’t get a response until 8:30 in the morning today. So I had to coordinate last minute with him. Eventually we did meet, but almost didn’t. If I hadn’t already been in the vicinity from a trip over the weekend, I would have probably either been rushing like crazy or had to postpone, for the 3rd time. The other guy, he tells me: Monday: Man, wish I could now. So horny. Wednesday or Thursday work, after 12pm? Yesterday: Ok. Not sure which day yet. Closer to noon the better Today: Will have to be midtown if today. Maybe another day. Notice how once again, he doesn’t even bothered to try and plan in advance. Just says, “another day”. So it’s like: 1. not only does he want me to host, 2. not only is it last minute with not much planning (Wednesday or Thursday after 12 could be any time, but then says closer to noon the better). But 3. most times, I’m also expected to be in an area close to them. Like how in the world is there so many stipulations lol. If I’m hosting, why should it matter where I am. He CAN’T host, so therefore if I’m going out of my way to pay for hotel, have said hotel hold $50-$100 on my account, then he should be more than willing to work with what’s convenient for me, because he can’t host. I’m already making it convenient by hosting, and hosting last minute. The least he could do is be willing to come to the location where I am and not fuss about the time. I had a freebie hookup the other day, who had a similar dilemma: he couldn’t host, nor could he come to the main part of the town I’m in. It would have involved me going 60 miles to him, and getting a hotel. A hotel I ALREADY had. When I visit my regular client to visit there, I don’t mind. But he cancelled. So why the hell am I going to go way out there, and get a room because he can’t host? It’s just really annoying and turns me off. They want to engage in an activity, but are so limited and don’t respect the fact that we are not superhuman beings that are always going to be convenient to them in every way. They need to stop thinking with their dick, and think with their head. If they can’t do it, then we won’t meet. Sometimes I feel, if it’s that important for me to host near them...they can just go ahead and get the room themselves. That way it won’t come off being selfish, cheap and inconsiderate. Because it comes off to me like they feel I’m so desperate to make money, I’ll be willing to drop anything to be convenient for them.