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Well “count it all joy“. Like I mentioned, not all markets are faring the same. May I ask, what’s your prices? I still say a whole: many cities are not experiencing the same uptick. I know in Kansas City, it’s been dead all week long. Only 1 client all week. Had a few “inquiries” and fake bookings who never confirmed. Always throws salt on the circumstance. I’m not too pressed considering I been living part time in another area where it’s a bit more busy. However, many of the small towns right now are brutal and likely being hit the most. It seems the only way to make any money in the biz right now is to be situated in a city. And I’m not talking about the surrounding suburbs of a city. I’m talking within 5 miles of an airport, business district or downtown. It has been hell and high water trying to make it in a town much further than that. Nobody is hiring gay male escorts in these small towns. Nothing but cheap ass gay men once you start getting into the suburbs and outer metros. They don’t be wanting to pay for diddly. They see you selling massage, they say they don’t pay for sex (adam4adam guys mainly). And rentmen and rentmass is practically non existent outside the gay metros. I think even if they have the money, they’re hesitant to spend it. Which also would apply to the older crowd and reasons behind its decline. that’s why I said on Twitter, first thing Kamala needs to do if and when she gets in the office, is help reverse fosta/sesta. Because that killed off a lot of money making potential in small towns and cities with Craigslist and backpage. The gay escort and massage sites are mainly only going to be found by the Gay/bi men who are seeking that service. Craigslist and the like helped bridge the gap to bring in guys who wouldn’t of considered it otherwise until they seen the ad. And now all of our public “classified” ads have been taken off the shelf.

That sounds good. In a perfect World. But only problem with that (and why I changed my like to a meh lol), it puts the cart before the horse. I don’t like when clients come with a list of things to change before even meeting me. Those same clients could also be the ones saying, sorry I have to cancel, and “we didn’t make an appointment” when asked for a cancellation fee. Well, you just criticized my looks AND demanded I make special concessions for you... to hell you didn’t make an appointment lol. It’s similar to when clients have asked me to shave my chest, or beard, or or don’t shave my chest or beard... before even meeting me. If polished nails are that much a bother, carry a bottle of nail polish remover (not poppers, the regular stuff lol) and pay an extra $100 in case the guy paid for a manicure already. That said, in defense of non polished nails, I recently tossed out 2 bottles of clear nail polish that I’d been carrying around for YEARS lol. I used to really like those in the corporate world, but now I find I end up peeling them off, scuffing them. I also didn’t find it made my nails any more or less healthier. Most of my nail issues are with my cuticles, as I’m often digging into luggage and such. What he said lol

can you run this by me again: you saying you only paid $250 to move in, and got first two months free? This almost sounds too good to be true. I always ask people: if you going to tell me something that sounds too good to be true, be sure to include all the caveats lol. Like some people, “I just got a new car with no money down! Okay, but what’s your monthly payments and insurance like? Lol.

Thanks. But it wouldn’t of mattered how I said it. His whole thing, based on what he mentioned...was that I would simply travel along the way and work, and then come see him for that day. It sounds good on paper IF I was already headed that direction, but like I said...I don’t tour Texas like that anymore (even though I did hit Dallas last month, on a spur of moment). That’s pretty much how I said it. He was offended that I said anything about him paying for it (and I even told him an amount) I explained to him: Any money I make along the way would be for my daily expenses and towards my income for the week. Hotels, food, money set aside for unexpected emergencies is factored into that. He even had the nerve to say, “so stop asking me.” I said, “I’m not asking I’m TELLING YOU, I’m not revolving a tour around seeing you for 1 day”. And he even said, “if you needed gas money, you could have just said that”. And I’m like no, no, no lol. I wasn’t trying to say that. I said exactly what I wanted to say: if I go down to see him, I need a whole week hotel paid for (his company doesn’t allow him to have guests over) and/or cushion money for the effort and expense coming down. I been filling my tank up twice a week these past few weeks, traveling. I can afford gas lol I learned that lesson the hard way earlier this year: Went to visit a client for our bi-annual Florida Keys trip. He paid me 1/4 in advance and the rest when I got down there. Even though it was well worth my while, and I took a few clients along the way (and of course, that has to be done carefully as to not tire oneself out)...a week after our session, I was already depleted of the funds I earned due to unexpected emergencies. Add the fact it was high season in Florida and hotels weren’t cheap, and business was garbage the whole week. That just created a ripple effect, to where a weekend trip, ended up with me being “stuck” there for over a month...then coronavirus hit. I told my client, I won’t be making anymore trips to Florida EVER unless I fly in directly and have a rental car. And go during off season where I can rent a car, because I was there and every place was sold out. Thank God for COVID-19, because the last week I was there in mid-March, I was finally able to get a break. I’m getting to a point, I feel the need to start demanding more from guys. When I hear guys are getting paid $2,000 a week, AND having all their hotels and expenses paid for, how much fucking more do I deserve? I don’t want gas money lol. Pay for me a room someplace for a week, and pay me gas money for coming, AND pay me $500 for the effort and wear and tear of coming lol. Sometimes you have to just teach them, how you want to be treated. But some gay guys have a problem with having their fellow gay guy, being even remotely more comfortable than they are. They think anytime they give something, they are being a sugar daddy. No. Understand what the I been thru 1st, and see it’s nothing about trying to get off on someone. It’s just not fair for someone who’s making more money with less expenses coming out of it, to make a person with less money and more expenses coming out of it, use it towards expenses needed to get 2 people together.

I was being facetious, it was more of a metaphor. As to some businesses being in high demand during a particular period. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be so much surplus sanitizer, the oceans and lakes will turn into the stuff...in 20 years ?

lol, I’ve actually been able to get him to cool it a bit...and the tone wasn’t as “dramatic” as previously. Idk what the fuck was going thru his head. but we’ve not had the in person chat yet. Will be doing so this week though. And I get it 100%. I know how it is to be offended about criticism. And as long as somebody isn’t doing it in front of others or doing so in an aggressive way (like people have done to me, and came off as proper assholes lol), I think it can only help in the long run. Next time we speak, I’m going to ask him: would you rather have someone who can be authentic and real around, or would you rather have someone who’s going to be artificial and fake, and then talk shit behind your back later? I would hate that. But as @Monarchy79 said in another thread of mine, some people don’t want that reality. They reach a point where they don’t realize or don’t care. And that’s not picking on or making fun of clients who aren’t beauty queens per say. But if they are atleast aware and in tune to their overall self image, that can create a better escort/client dynamic. Like I said, the misconception that we're being paid to deal with poor hygiene, or clients extreme health neglects...needs to be crushed. I don't care if a guy is not attractive, but if he at-least takes care of himself, that's all that is important. I've met non-beauty queen clients who were still fun to play with, because they didn't neglect self awareness. But I had a client few months ago who had an extreme case of butt warts....and wanted to get fucked before his surgery. I was fine until it seen his ass. And it wasn't clean. I lost my hard on completely. Fortunately I had a "helper" in my bag, and some condoms. And bleach. And boiling water. I was absolutely not fucking him, even despite the fact HPV is common in most everyone sexually active.

Wow that’s a steal. Haven’t had that luck in my area. They want rent+deposit equal to rent due before move in. That’s been the issue to, finding places with decent move in specials in the Midwest.

I’ve actually noticed bookings have gone up. In fact, every since the pandemic started, the number of completely “dead” weeks (that is, weeks where I have 0 bookings or inquiries) have actually been less. Like I said earlier on, when people were bashing me for still clients despite the stay at home restrictions: not every business is being affected the same. If someone works for or owns a hand sanitizer company, they’re probably a billionaire lol. Don’t get me wrong: it’s certainly not the roaring 20s. It’s still kinda slow as a whole, but it’s been that way for awhile. And some markets could be dead, others okay, and yet others booming. I still say: what pandemic? Yes...it’s a medical mystery and global health crisis right now, but it’s still not enough to stop gay men from having sex like Syphilis and HIV were. And it’s not directly sexually transmitted either. That’s not to water down the situation, but it is what it is. I talk with clients about it from time to time. One of my clients who is HIV positive and chats with his doctor a lot, seems to point to signs that perhaps the virus was around a lot longer, but he also mentioned something about HIV positive guys on ARVs haven’t been affected as severely. But I’m not stating facts, just industry insight. Everyone has to choose what they want to receive and believe.

And I’ll add different topic than above: the reason why I say it about men being sensitive and easily offended: it’s not been the first time it’s happened. Different guy, same attitude. I’ve had a few situations where the slightest disagreement or differing opinions about something will send guys in a rage. Even if it’s a super passive aggressive rage. One guy last year, got pissed and ended our “stay here in between clients while you’re visiting town...” roommate situation, simply because I asked to invite over a guy who I happened to met before, who was another masseur...despite the fact I wasn’t even using the spot for incalls. Me and the roommate weren’t even fucking or dating or in any paid dynamic (he did hire me when we first met couple years prior). He just got up the next morning and told me to leave because I simply asked, which apparently I shouldn’t have. No notice or chat or anything. We had chatted on and off for over a year while he moved to Atlanta from Denver, and back. Never heard from him again. It was just an example of how it seems you have to use extra extra caution not to offend a gay guy in any way. And that’s almost impossible to do. Because it’s like no matter how hard you try to not offend, they will FIND a way to be offended by something, that didn’t even require being offended to begin with. Just merely asking a question or stating an opinion, has ended whole friendships. I’ve even had to check myself on it. Like, was it even worth being offended over ? But in many cases it was...if what they were saying was condescending or judgmental.

Thanks everyone for the detailed answers. And excuse me if I seemed to be generalizing or airing dirty ? ? laundry lol. @Monarchy79 and @jeezifonly, that Definitely addresses dynamics that even after 11 years in the hobby, I still haven’t subconsciously been able to articulate lol. After so long, everything feels “real” to me, and fantasy and reality just become 1 in the same. But I’m realizing I may need to check myself and make sure I’m not giving too much fantasy, to where they forget reality lol. That said: I did explain further to the guy as I did in this post, about how my tours and finances work. And that I’m already at reduced capacity, due to COVID, and being in a sucky market already, and trying to save for an incall spot. And @orville you’re spot on deciphering what he likely was thinking. But I had to break it DOWN to him in like 5 text paragraphs lol. He was like, “well if you wanted gas money, you shoulda just said you wanted gas money” (btw I don’t really do the flying me in stuff, so even though it sounds bat-shit crazy to drive all that way, technically that’s what I would “prefer” to do when I travel). It also opens the opportunity to stop in cities along the way, which can work provided there’s clients in each location. However, I had to explain to him: I wasn’t asking for gas money lol. I’m not a 20 year old. I just turned 33 last week. Gas is the cheapest it’s been in years, I can afford gas lol. It’s everything else. I told him even if I do go down there, I have to factor in the WHOLE thing, even though I wouldn’t be asking to be paid for the whole trip. Me taking clients on a tour, would merely be for my daily expenses and regular bills. Not for the overall trip to see him. Not to mention, I told him there’s no guarantee that I would get the number of clients I need to even make a profit. I’ve made many trips to Texas, only to either be expecting more or breaking even. So to hell would I want to come down there, see him, stretch my finances out of my own pocket...while he’s getting daily food allowances and hotels paid for, plus a big check? I asked him this morning, help me fucking understand how in the WORLD are you insulted, based on the facts? He got the picture then, and changed his tune. Sometimes I don’t know what people think we as escorts are. Do they really think we’re wiping our cum with $100 bills? I have to remind these guys: RentMen alone isn’t paying our daily expenses or transportation costs. It’s not an agency. We pay them. Clients pay us. And that pay is not in addition to a “allowance” or “stipend”.

This is almost an addition to another thread about a client’s looks. But this is more of a general thing. I don’t know if it’s just the type of men I come across, or if it’s something more to it. Maybe a fact of dynamics between escort/client/former client/escort etc. Specifically referring: there’s a guy who hired me (and I say it in past tense) once, but there was an attraction on both ends. We started seeing (aka fucking) each other regularly after that, but there was like a 2 week break in between time we met. However we also do things outside of sex as well, which has almost turned it into dating if sorts. All is well except, he decided to take on a job in Texas for 6-8 weeks. Since then, we’ve discussed linking up down there. Tonight we texted in depth about it, and we seemed to have gotten into a conflict about me coming down. He seems to think he doesn’t need to provide any money to me for coming down (neither before or after), despite the fact it’s a 900 mile trip, and he would only be able to spend 1 day with me. I told him I could turn it into a “tour” and take clients before and after, and reserve a day for him. But that would mean I would have to preserve and manage my stamina and resources for clients, not our time. And even if I did come tour, where he is “stationed” is 4 hours from San Antonio and 6 hours from Houston: the 2 nearest major escort-populated cities. So that would mean me taking off not just a day, but possibly 2 days from taking clients, and likely being maxed out sexually after our time....considering he likes to go at it 2 or 3 times a day. He tells me he don’t think he needs to give me any money, because it would be leisure travel. I said no the heck it won’t. I don’t travel for leisure. Anytime I travel, is a mix of work and pleasure. And I certainly wouldn’t be traveling for leisure to only see him for 1 day. If I’m going 4 to 6 hours drive outside the nearest major city where I can earn money, I need to be reimbursed because I’d technically be paying for all my expenses out of pocket, while he’s getting all expenses paid by his company and making 80 hours a week. Then he has the nerve to say I’m insulting him and seeing him as a sugar daddy. I almost said fuck you, mother fucker. But instead I said fair enuf...but I’m just about to cut ties. I just don’t get why gay men like to keep up drama 24/7 and complicate situations. If someone is planning on going out of their way and visiting someone for the purpose of sex or romantic interest, that person being visited should have the decency to pay for something for that person spending their money. Unless it just absolutely is a client visiting an escort type of deal, because obviously the escort is trying to earn regardless. So idk, this just got me pent up. 2 arguments with 2 different men this week. It’s really draining me. Men can be so fucking unreasonable when it comes down to things. And lot of gay men wonder why they are single. They don’t know how to treat a partner. Everytime the partner asks for something, they think they’re being used or taken advantage of. Gay men never want to help just to help. They only help when they can get something out of it. Then once they get what they want, they don’t feel it’s worth going out of their comfort zone bubble anymore.

Good God. Time for fictitious super heroes to start saving Manhattan again..

The city probably pays for it. In other news, Manhattan apparently has 13,000 empty apartments now, as the mass exodus from NYC seems to be the case. Sure someone can Google it. But to answer my own question: one thing i did find is air bnb apartments going for monthly, and furnished of course. So that could be something I could explore. But it doesn't quite suit my quest to actually get into something semi-permanent...and air bnb rentals are a bit of gamble and hustle because all that money is due upfront.

That may be true, but here's the thing: when I told him about how it has affected my ability to be intimate with him, he gave the bombshell reply of: "well it doesn't bother me". I had nearly fell out of my chair. So it's like he may know the condition, but choose not to fix it, because as long as it doesn't bother him...too bad if his sex partners don't like it, just be into me regardless. It's almost sadly arrogant. I think on the contrary, he didn't know...but might have imagined otherwise. Like I said, I know how it is to be criticized. And especially unsolicited criticism. But there's a difference between flagrant "opinions" spewing out of someone's ass (which most gay guys are perfect at doing, before they even know the situation), versus a heart to heart suggestion as a friend, saying: "hey, we need to have a discussion about this, because it's making it hard to be around you. Is it something we can work on?" And I told him, I struggled with that myself. Criticism from people, sometimes harsh and unnecessary (which isn't what I wanted to do), but some helpful critiques and having someone make suggestions, ultimately helped me get better. So true. When someone is ready to receive it of course. And many people rather ghost in silence, than to be an adult and face rubbing someone wrong and ultimately, being rejected themselves. I just wanted some insight into what's holding him back from being proactive about his looks.

And I would not have regretted it 1 ☝? bit. So Stop. Drop. And roll back. First of all: the person, ArmyHands, was the person who I quoted, who mentioned someone calling him mere “names”. And N word in person, is certainly not just a name. Look at how many people have lost whole contracts because of that. But I’m not going to go into that further, as this is not solely about name calling. I followed up with an example I made, HOPING that people could see the actual intent, for the fact that I wasn’t so much “going to”, but more like, “why is a guy who’s partnered to another gay man, and is a doctor at a University medical center, sending me this vile offensive message? I wonder if his partner and fellow doctors would approve of this type of behavior.” And for what, because I told him I needed 2 hours notice before booking a session? I can’t find the message or pull it up exactly, but it wasn’t just “names” he called me. It was something like accusing me of being an STD infested druggie, and may have ended with something like “go kill myself”. It was a whole paragraph. And from his profile on RentMasseur of all places. I never even met him. What was a ? red flag, was for a “client” who I’ve never even met, to send me some completely out of character message thru RM messaging system, and expecting to get away with it. That’s real crazy and uncalled for. Like I said, he later apologized to me...but if he ever wishes to schedule me again, I’m asking for $1,000 for the inconvenience of reading that message. Since he’s a doctor with I’m sure...deep pockets. Jerk. Our ads aren’t designed to be punching bags. But If I was TRULY a red flag, I woulda took it even further. Look what happened to George Floyd and Derek Chauvin. The responsible authorities failed to char him early in. And look what happened, the whole country ended up charred ? instead. Maybe if someone said, he’s a bad “client”...we need to get him straight, we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in. But contrary to unpopular opinion here, I’m really not out to charbroil clients. I prefer my clients well, with a little pink in the center ?

How much notice were they given and what quantifies as extremely late? And it sounds like these were outcalls to you? In any case, I admittedly find it hard sometimes to get to every appointment without being a little behind. I don't think people understand: when the Comcast or UPS/FEDEX man comes out, do they give an EXACT time of arrival? Sometimes you'll get "by 8 pm", but they're also running an intricately timed network. I don't think people understand, calling an escort and setting a time shouldn't be seen as a written in stone thing. How many people on grindr set up a specific time to meet? Or does someone have to wait a bit. I ask clients not to plan me too close to other things they're doing if they're asking for an outcall or just in general. There's the Driving/Ubering/Scootering to unfamiliar addresses, sometimes unfamiliar cities. Then there's planning meals to where an escort may need a couple hours before or after eating before attending a session. Sometimes people contact me right in the middle of dinner, or just before...thinking an hour notice is sufficient. It's not. I need time to digest, drink my wine, freshen up, run a quick porn to get in the mood, figure address route, etc. By that time, 2 hours can zoom by before we know it. its much easier to be on time, when the client comes to us...but even that's not always guaranteed, as I've had to ask guys to chill in the lobby for a minute or 2 because I wasn't ready. They usually don't mind. Of course I always try to ask to ensure that it's not an issue to arrive "between" a set time, not "at" a set time. At the end of the day, we're meeting strangers, and strangers can cause butterflies, and butterflies tend to cause people's digestives to act out of character lol.

I personally loathe the first last security deposit rule. Common in Florida probably because of New York. Uncommon in most states. Usually just rent and security deposit. I've been looking hard to find places with decent move in specials. Mainly because the initial move in for me is likely going to run high with moving itself. Seems outside of Texas, people stare like I've got 3 heads when I bring that up. What apartment is that lol. 7 bedrooms? Or 7 closets? Lol. Or 7 beds like a hostel? If she inherited it, how does she have to pay rent anyway?

Thanks for replies to all. I was almost hesitant to post, thinking I'd get slammed lol. But, I just think it's an often hushed discussion. I think people feel we as escorts should be able to "take everyone as they are." As if we are doctors, dentist, and therapist ourselves. And that's just simply not the case. The difference being, we actually have to have sex, and be intimate with clients. Clients have to get approval from me lol. It gets to a point where, I realized I don't have to see every client, or perform certain services (kissing, rimming, bareback) if it's going to pose a health concern due to neglected hygiene, or gross me out beyond what I can handle. There's also a whole lot of clients out there who take very good care of themselves, even if they are 60s and 70s. So I know age alone doesn't determine someone's presentation. I don't care about some extra pounds (in fact, I find cubs, bears and chubs are fun sex lol), or imperfections here and there. We all have em. And many times, I can tune out and ignore those things. But considering the client and I have gotten to know each other more in depth, it was becoming very hard to ignore. And it's not some unavoidable health condition, he said it exact: it doesn't bother "HIM". And THAT actually offended me lol. It's like if someone farts in a library, or drives 20 in a 70. If it doesn't bother me, too bad for you lol. Accept me anyway. Anyhow: He finally responded back after a couple of days...and it wasn't pretty lol. He started off saying he didn't want to do business with me anymore and never wanted to see me again, but I made it a case that I wasn't not intending to belittle or criticize him, but rather be honest as a FRIEND and his "partner"...and realize that it's not only affecting my ability to be sexual with him, but unnecessarily detracting from his overall image. Eventually we reasoned, and I was able to get him to see he was being irrational (our business deal is beyond sex, so to cut ties now, would affect that arrangement). So, we aren't on bad terms, but he does know we have to step back from the intimate side of things for now. @Monarchy79 you make a good point about letting people live in delusion. But, in this case I couldn't do it because he has been offering to assist with something I've been working on, but he often would allude that I could simply just pay him back in appointments. And I needed to let him know, if that's the case: he needed to consider at-least 1 thing to help improve his looks. I'm not going to be having sex with someone who's not doing anything to be presentable. I don't even know when the last time he's had a haircut. I was physically seeing, that he was letting himself go, perhaps the coronavirus stuff isn't helping...but I wouldn't repeatedly torture myself having sex with someone who seems to not notice or care that he's looking worse than he actually is.

I can see that. Regardless, I haven't seen any real decrease anywhere. If rents dropping means $10-50 bucks, that's nothing. I've been saying awhile that America needs to burst its rent bubble, as its been going exponentially high in many cities. But between pandemic and police reform, seems this plane is on a crash course to 1990s prices lol

So...the other day I had a heartfelt conversation with a client "friend" of mine. That is, a client who I am also friends with. Long story short: we've had several great encounters over the past year, and got to know each other better. It wasn't a relationship, but we had talked about working out an arrangement, which would involve exchanging for some time spent. However, I was starting to notice that image wise... it felt like he had let himself go over the years. And that's an understatement. And I understand as an escort, we have to be able to look past a person's flaws and shortcomings. But I told him politely, there's only so far I can go with that. There is a difference between something you can control, versus something a person simply chooses not to bother with. In his case, I told him he has the right package going for himself...fit, conscious about his eating habits; but that his dental health was a concern for me. I asked him some questions about his dental history, and included mine. And in the nicest way without trying to offend him, I told him that I feel he should consider his dentist's advice about getting into some type of dental plan. Granted, he's an older guy... and I understand nobody looks the same year after year. But I felt he had let himself go to a point where it's like, "I don't care, and I hope you don't care that I don't care, about how I look either". I know nobody is perfect. And most times I rarely base in a client's looks as a factor in performance or eligibility lol. But, it only goes so far if someone has clear hygiene or physical issues. Like, who's going to suck a dick that has smelly yellow discharge and sores (not this guy, but hypothetically speaking), and say: "don't worry, I won't judge you". I'll say, "you need to see a doctor". And likewise, oral sex or kissing may be difficult if someone neglects their oral upkeep. The reasons I brought it up were because our arrangement would involve continuing having sessions, but I also genuinely cared about his well being and personal/business growth. However since then, he told me he was offended (this conversation was in person) and he has gone unresponsive to important texts. Which makes me feel like maybe he wasn't receptive to my honesty and realness about how it affects our dynamic. Thoughts?

I just don't see how people are affording any of this shit these companies are wanting. Cars and homes are just a racket. I own both my cars, but it's hard to find a place to buy outright like a car....which I was close to doing with my former place, which was only about $66,000 for a 1 bedroom town home at the time. How does one pull off making 3X the rent (in one particular place it'd be $900x3=$2,700 a month plus car and utility and escort expenses (gym, ads etc, clothes, etc, etc, etc, etc lol). I guess if you're making 3X that amount you can offset those costs. But obviously escort income can be do random. That's why I am considering on my next move to pick up a second job for my regular bills, but not an easy feat when first needing a place to live in order to even take on the job lol. Unless just make one big payment to a hotel, but hell in this economy.... there's no guarantees.

Sounds like for annual income. The places I was referring to was per monthly times 3. Definitely not making $2,000 New York rent times 40 a month lol. That's $80,000 a month. An escort would have to be Justin Bieber or Floyd Mayweather to make that kinda money every month lol.

Who would so such a thing, and what city is this occurring? I can’t see how they would be getting it mixed up. I can’t see your ad signature right now because I’m on mobile version, but if that’s the case, only thing I can think is if you include face pics (again I can’t see your ad yet) it could help. I can’t tell you what I’d do if someone sent me such texts, as it would upset the “Puritanical” sex seekers of the forum.... but I’ll just say I tried very hard one time, not to email a scathing RM message a client who I’d not even met yet... sent to me, something along the lines of me being some con artist and a druggie. But far worse. Fortunately, he apologized and admitted HE was being a prick.... due to other providers standing him up; before I sent it to the hospital he worked AND his partner. Instead, I just reported him to RM and they reprimanded him before I could. I woulda charred ? him.

Sounds like you indirectly addressed me, so...I will indirectly address you as well: And for the most part hasn’t been for me either. But it only takes: 1 time for a client to threaten to slice your neck 1 time for a client to not pay, and then say get the fuck out, 1 time for a client to pay via credit card and then dispute a week later 1 time to go to an outcall and be stood up 1 time to travel to a city, get a room and client not show up 1 time to spend time wasting on a 20 minute phone call answering “questions”, and then be flaked on. Those are all true stories that I have contended with. So yeah, it doesn’t need to be a bunch of bad clients or experiences, it only takes 1. And that’s what this should be about. That said, despite that list... there’s far more good outweighing those. Which is why I stay. And overtime, those bad experiences help condition me to be more able to spot potential disasters, and avoid seeing somebody from the jump. And of course, I only see clients who pay deposits now, which has eliminated 99.9% of bull crap out of my day lol. Who said that? whom? That’s certainly not what I was alluding to. RentMen is manning the ship right now. I have no reason to antagonize them. I just want them to do a little more for us, as far as screening goes. But I decided not to wait for them to do so yet, nor do I think I’d be 100% satisfied with their process. So I am doing everything a step ahead: I screen, require deposit, and have every client fill out a form. I’m like a walking, talking leasing office lol. J/K, that’s not the point. I want it to be simple, fun, and sexy. But I’ve also made crucial and foolish mistakes that I don’t want to relive, so I have to do things with order and professionalism, and I’ve caught on from other businesses how to go about it. You don’t just meet every Tom, Dick and Harry without knowing them from Adam. And you don’t have to provide free consultations, if your advertisement comes with penis photos and videos, including having sex, and sexual preferences outlined, along with face pic. Meanwhile, Mr. anonymous on the other end hasn’t shown a goddamn, MFing thing about his self. THAT is the consultation. Me paying $150 for profiles and ad space, is a consultation. Any extra conversation beyond what time and address, needs to be paid for. That’s why I say, people need to send deposit very soon after texting me, as that’s services rendered.

So I’ve been back in the rental hunting business lately, and needless to say it’s been a bit of a charade. The new city I moved to, seems to be commonly wanting proof of income of 3X the rent. Formerly I’d use bank statements, but in the past few months, I no longer stay within the same city of the main bank that I’d use, which is a pretty common bank nationally in most states, but not all. Which happens to be mine. However, even with that...Property managers and even private landlords can be a bit picky about who’s application looks the best. I actually used to feel private landlords were the way to go, but now I’m seeing it’s not so much the case in many situations. They be wanting as much as the corporate properties when it comes to looking up info. I almost don’t feel comfortable letting someone snoop around my information. I rather just pay the money and move on with the deal lol. I’m not applying for a loan on a mortgage ??‍♂️ It’s also been hard to find places (In the city, for my budget) that are private enough, to where I’d feel comfortable hosting clients regularly. It’s an issue how so many apartments and “converted homes” almost design neighbors to have regular interactions with one another. Which I want to avoid. Obviously the bigger apartment buildings don’t have that issue as much (which actually may be something I turn my focus to next). The main issue is the application of these places, which I know is standard. But last thing I’d want, is to be running around paying application fees and not getting thru.