Jamie21

Work, whatever it is and regardless of whether it’s supposedly fun, is always work in the end. Today I did a porn filming session, and got to film with an extremely hot guy who I’d gladly have fun with in my spare time. But it was work, I didn’t enjoy it (although I didn’t hate it either!). I think it’s because it had to be done to meet obligations etc. It’s not like we both chose to be there purely for fun. We were both doing it to make money. Your provider who turned down a paid vacation probably views it as being work primarily and therefore it comes with obligations, so he needs to think about it. You’re viewing it from a different perspective to him. I had a client offer to take me on vacation (I pay nothing), and of course there was an expectation on me to keep him entertained (although nothing was explicitly requested). I declined. I took the view that would I go on vacation with him if I paid my share and we went as friends? If the answer to that is “no” then I shouldn’t go if it’s a client relationship. Just because he’s paying for everything doesn’t change the decision for me. I wouldn’t have gone as friends so I wouldn’t go as a provider. It’s too long together unless you’re totally compatible.

Everyone starts out that way….”these are my limits…I need pics of you to check you’re hot enough”. Give him a few months and he’ll be “fuck me bareback $20”

Seems this issue is quite emotive. I take it as par for the course. I’m working in this business so it means I’ll get lots of last minute requests…it’s frustrating but nothing I can do about it. Just say “yes” when I’m available or “no” if it doesn’t fit. I must turn down about 3 a week because of my unavailability. Some come back some don’t. It’s disappointing because I hate to turn away business!

Hey I’d take payment by barter. I have in the past exchanged massage for photography work. I had some professional marketing pics done by a photographer and paid him by massage. A mutually beneficial exchange.

Hey thanks! Taoist masseur is great, lovely guy. I’ve filmed a couple of times with him and will do more. He’s a lovely guy. Look forward to fucking you …sorry that was a mistype…massaging you on my table 😂.

It often happens. I’m amazed, guys even contact me to say “I’m in London are you available today at xx?”. They usually travelled from abroad and presumably have considered booking me but they leave it to the day to ask about booking. Often I’m booked up or out of town so I have to decline and then they’re disappointed. Those clients that book in advance get what they want because I plan my diary to accommodate them. I understand that sometimes you book in advance and on the day just don’t feel right for it, so that’s fine…cancel it. I don’t take deposits and if you tell me you’re cancelling at the start of the day then I can rearrange my time. I agree with Jarrod that it’s annoying to have to repeatedly say no to last minute requests. However, in my experience those “are you available now” type clients are usually difficult anyway (drunk, high or just looking for a quick fuck) so actually it’s not the type of booking I want anyway.

It’s never happened. I take payment at the end, it feels better to me. Some clients pay before because I think they’re anxious and want to get that part out of the way but I never ask for any payment up front. On this occasion the client (who had tried to negotiate a reduced price when booking- my answer was no, I never discount) when we’d finished and it came to payment time said he didn’t have the cash. At that time I didn’t accept credit cards so cash was the only way. I think he expected me to say “oh don’t worry it was such a fantastic time for me that session is free”. Well in fact it wasn’t fantastic, it was average, and it was work, so I said to him “no problem I’ll just get dressed and walk with you to the cash machine” which was 5 minutes walk away. As we walked I was worried he’d do a runner so I stayed close. At the machine he withdrew the cash and paid me. Funny thing is I’ve seen him a couple of times since. Each time since then he’s never tried to negotiate and always had payment ready.

I’m sure if he’s have booked a session I could have had him liking cock 🙂

This one was uplifting…

That response of his must be reassuring to you not only that he is vaccinated but that he seems a nice guy too. It’s a reasonable question to ask in my view. I’ve had one or two clients ask me although most seem to be keen to tell me that THEY have been vaccinated! I don’t mind, I’ll see vaccinated or unvaccinated clients, it’s their choice about having it. I’m vaccinated and I’ve seen some other providers put their vaccination status on their profile along with other stats…

Yes, it’s easy. I use Monzo, can send money instantly to any bank. Do need names. I guess if you’re wanting total discretion then cash is the only thing that’s 100% discreet! I think European banking tech is more advanced than US banking tbh.

Yes bank transfer is a thing here and can be done easily on the phone. It’s instant so I can see I’ve been paid. I have a couple of clients who prefer bank transfer. I personally prefer to be paid by cash or credit card (I have a card reader).

Good luck with that! I wish I was back in Mykonos now…it’s cold dark and wet today here in London.

Ah yes I was in Mykonos a few weeks ago. Unfortunately not at a clients expense lol. It was however with a former client who has now become a friend. He paid when we went last year but I wanted to pay my own way this time (although he picked up all the restaurant bills and the cost of sunbeds on the beach!). It’s potentially awkward when a client becomes a friend…has only happened this one time but seems to have worked! We did see a few young guys with obviously older guys who looked like escort /clients. Lucky boys lol.

Sitting here in London getting a geography lesson - interesting! What surprises me is the travel you guys are prepared to do. Here London to Manchester takes about 4 hours to drive (200 miles). It’s a different market (and seems well served). I’d never visit a client there or do a tour; it’s too far away and I don’t need to go there anyway for business. I think if I wanted a change of scene I’d go to somewhere like Amsterdam or Barcelona.

There is a scene in London where clients want providers to use party drugs with them during the session. These are longer appointments. I guess if you’re easily influenced and mix with wrong people it can be easy to fall into (basically you get paid to party…you can see how that might sound appealing at first). Once you’re in that scene it’s almost impossible to escape. But yes it’s possible to have longer appointments here outside of that scene. I don’t do them (I’ve friends who do) because I don’t have time and it’s not my market anyway. I think London has everything and a regular supply of international visitors…I walk through the city and think “ah yes I saw x client at that hotel….and him at that hotel” 😂

I did a weekend break by the sea with a provider a couple of years ago. It wasn’t a business arrangement, I’m a provider too. We are friends and we both just wanted to get away for a bit, have some fun, do a bit of filming for our fans sites etc. It was fun but at the time he was on meth (inhaled) and it made him anxious and wasted time while he was taking it…ugh. He wasn’t happy and although we had a great time it would have been so much better had he been clean. Fortunately he’s since come off it and is doing well. He’s much happier with life now.

I’m too old to be kept as a boy. My perception is they need to be in their 20’s but I could be wrong. Since working as a provider I’ve learned to assume nothing about the intricacies of human sexuality. If I was kept, it would need to be on the basis that I’m not exclusive. It’s impossible for me to be monogamous. I need variety and lots of it. It would also have to be where I can be kept in luxury (I like nice things), intellectually stimulated and where I have the opportunity to indulge my exhibitionist side (filming porn / group sex parties that sort of thing). Oh and continuing to do sensual massage /sex work. So actually it’s my current life (although I’d hope bit more luxurious….swim pool, home gym, cinema room- that sort of thing) but with a keeper to look after me. I’m not bothered what he’s like, any age or look but he must be kind and not do any drugs or drink. If there’s a rich guy out there offering that proposition I’m listening…

Oh you gave him a ride and he gave you a ride. How apt 😂

It’s legal here in UK. Unfortunately some people have an objection to it. I judge no-one. If you drink, party or whatever it’s your life and your choice. Just make sure it’s legal. I choose to do sex work because I enjoy it, no one is forcing me. I choose not to drink of take drugs because I don’t enjoy those things. I just don’t enjoy being in the company of people who are drunk or high so I choose not to do it but I don’t mind that it goes on. Live and let live eh?

TLDR?? 😉

That’s the truest thing I’ve seen. Totally agree. Before I worked in the industry I had all sorts of beliefs about how things worked and based on my experience they were all wrong!

Strict rule of mine: no drugs no alcohol (for both me and the client). I never do drugs and am teetotal anyway so it’s no problem to me. Clients sometimes ask if they can use something and the answer is “yes, but I won’t be there”. So I never had the situation Jarrod describes. I’ve had worries about some clients physical health though, especially in older guys or with disabled clients. I remember I was with one client who’s in his mid seventies. I’d given him a relaxing massage and things had progressed to sex which he wanted in bed so we’d moved there. He’d taken some viagra (he’d told me about this because he wanted to top). Anyway as he’s fucking me doggie and he’s becoming more out of breath so I suggested he lay down and I ride him which he agreed would be better. So I climb on him and start but after a while I can feel his cock soften although I’m sure he hasn’t cum and he seems to be losing consciousness. He’s gone very quiet. So I get off and check he’s ok and he says he’s feeling unwell and can I get him a drink and his wash bag from the bathroom. I felt his pulse and it’s lowish and his breathing shallow. I’m thinking “oh fuck he’s going to die I’m going to call an ambulance “. Anyway I scramble around in his bathroom for the washbag and imagine that when I go back into his room I’ll find him dead. You start to think weird things and I was thinking how do I get a dead body dressed and what should he wear so that he’s decent when the ambulance arrives… Fortunately he’s still breathing and conscious when I go back in. So I give him the bag and ask him what to get from it. He says there’s pills in a white container so I open it up and get one out. “This one?” I say showing it to him. He nods, takes it and has a sip of water. I say to him I’m calling an ambulance but he says no, call his doctor who is apparently a friend of his. He dials the doctor’s number and hands me the phone… So here I am talking to this client’s doctor telling him the client had taken viagra and had become ill during sex. The doctor tells me not to worry, put his feet up (I’d already done it) and that he’s on his way (apparently he lives in same building!). 2 minutes later, before I’m even dressed (tbh I’d forgotten I was naked) the doctor turns up and checks him over. After about half hour the client is well enough to sit up and chat with us. He apologises to me saying the doctor had told him never to use viagra because of his heart condition. The doctor says to me as he’s leaving the apartment that this is the third time he’s visited my client in similar circumstances and he never learns. I thanked him and went back to the client in bed who now seems much better. So much so that he asks if we can continue the session with a cuddle etc and he’ll wank me off. I say to him that the whole episode has made me lose my appetite so we just cuddle for a while (which doesn’t stop him trying to get me hard but it’s just not going to happen!!). I tell him that I have to go (which is true, I’ve booked a facial) and that he should rest. The doctor was going to come back in a couple of hours. As I left I called the doctor and told him I was leaving and could he text me later to confirm my client was ok. He said sure, it would be fine and he suggested I top next time (I’m still not sure if he was joking or not). Honestly I wish I’m still that horny when I’m 75. I’ve never been back to the client though! Im not going through that again.

This might sound big headed but I’ve not had negative feedback. One client said he’d have liked a bit more of a particular thing (and he had asked for it at the start) so I guess that was fair enough. He didn’t book again but if he had I’d still have accepted the booking. Feedback is good because I know what to change for next time. I like to hear what my clients think. I always ask as they are getting dressed if they enjoyed it and I say if they want to book again I’m happy to adjust the session based on what they liked etc. I think that immediately after the session and face to face they’re unlikely to say much but it signals that they can send me a message afterwards about what they liked / didn’t like and what they want if they book again. I also keep a note of what they liked during the session, anything that worked really well etc so that if they book again I know what they’re into. Generally people won’t say because they’re embarrassed about talking about these things or they just don’t have the words to express it. So I find keeping a discreet note helps me to make their second visit better. Plus it helps me remember them. I’m bad at recognising faces but I remember their cock 😂.

Yes agree. Like when they just say “fuck?” Or “full service “. Why can’t people express what they want in a proper sentence? I’m more inclined to reply to a properly framed question…..”fuck?” isn’t a question.