Jamie21

But would you offer the hanging ritual in a spiritual conscious presence? Hanging each strip with a profound reverence to honour the divinity in the wall? Would you invite the sacred wallpaper to celebrate the celestial nature of its existence as it elevates the transcendence of your being? You can’t just slap a bit of paste on and stick it up, job done mate. Not for $555 per hour (minimum 2 hours).

It reminds me of the Nazis. Sharp uniforms and a really focused propaganda campaign: great visuals. And totally morally corrupt and reprehensible just beneath the surface.

Don’t ask on Onlyfans! I get asked and I can’t reply there because it’s against their rules. Find his X profile and send him a DM.

Very large indeed.

Hold up! I’m not so young 🤪. I wouldn’t worry about putting off providers who baulk at your age. You’re best to avoid those guys and to find out before you meet them! Decent guys will not be bothered. I’ve clients who are in their 70’s. I love it that they hire me. Fantastic guys. My issue with ‘hey’ is that it comes alone. ‘Hey’ …then nothing until I reply. Then it’s ’how are you’ 🙄. My heart sinks. It’s going to be a long exchange until we get to what he wants. I know he thinks he’s being polite etc but when you’ve responded to the same kind of approach 100’s of times it gets a bit challenging. It’s polite enough to just say ‘hello I like your profile/ad (or whatever) and I’d like to book a session on day / time’. We can take it from there.

Nothing. I don’t look at them. Your initial message tells me everything I need to know, even if it’s ‘hey’….Especially if it’s ‘hey’. Name. Preferred date, time, duration, location, where you found my details (so that I know you’ve read my profile/website) and any specific requirements. That’s all you need to do.

Each to his own. I’m sure there’s people who will be up for @Devah services and who will get something out of it. I find that if you’re looking for something Orphic there’s always people who are willing to provide it for you. If it helps you then it works. I get asked by clients for Tantric sessions. I say I don’t do them. I’ve attended Tantra workshops out of curiosity and I find it impenetrable: too couched in obscure language and insider speak. I ask clients who want a Tantra session to describe what they’d like without using ‘tantric’ language. Turns out they want to feel approved of. I can do that. I think these services that offer to unlock secrets and awaken consciousness etc is like religion: if you want to believe then you will find it. If you aren’t bothered then it’s just another snake oil salesman’s pitch or fairy story. Nothing wrong with believing, it meets a need for those who are searching. I just don’t buy the pitch. Call me cynical! As for the price. He can charge whatever he likes. No one is forcing anyone to pay it. If it’s more money than you want to pay, don’t buy!

Nice idea

He is. You should be glad you walked away. If you hired him it’s most likely to be disappointing and you’d regret it.

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Maybe a little perspective is needed? As a masseur I know there are clients who are scammers- these people prey on sex workers (often female sex workers because of the power imbalance, but also on guys). I know because I’ve come across one or two and because I get informed of them through sites where we (sex workers) can report such individuals. This isn’t about reporting clients who are just a bit difficult to deal with or who are awkward (that stays private) but it’s clients who are physically threatening, refuse to pay, or who deliberately harass. So we as providers do have places to report such individuals and share information about them. I know the numbers and names they use, I know how they operate. I’m glad I know. What the OP is talking about is I think the reporting on here of the worst masseur / sex worker scammers. Not the guys who give a mediocre massage or who promise to kiss and then don’t etc. That’s just a bad product or a buyer who bought with his cock not his head. I see some examples of that on here…where the client was disappointed but it’s not a scam, it’s just either the client had unrealistic expectations or the provider over promised or even there was a misunderstanding about the service. The same provider is mentioned elsewhere by other clients in glowing terms. Readers can almost always see things for what they are: the client being unrealistic or the provider having an off day. It happens. I’m mentioned on here by some clients (always in glowing terms of course 😉) but I’m sure there’s somewhere online where a client mentions me expressing some kind of disappointment. We can’t please everyone. I hope that most discerning clients can look at the overall reputation of a masseur or escort on here and elsewhere and come to their own conclusions. To be honest if a client makes a decision not to hire based on one comment from someone they don’t know then I probably don’t want that kind of client anyway.

Yep, I remember 😉. You’re telling me I could have charged you more 😳. Damn..

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Wow, you truly understand it. This is exactly how I try to work. That’s the answer.

If you’ve done the massage correctly then the ‘happy ending’ is simply the sine qua none to a great sensual massage. It cannot therefore be a chore unless the whole sensual massage is a chore, in which case why would one even do sensual massage in the first place?

There’s also Sweatbox in Soho, which is larger than Pleasuredrome, and it has a gym. There’s a few other smaller saunas around (one in Kennington, one near Marble Arch) which feel ‘local’. If you want a nice massage after your visit to the sauna my studio is within walking distance of Sweatbox or the Covent Garden sauna (just saying 😉).

I have Revolut. It’s very easy and flexible. Better than PayPal IMO.

Don’t overthink it. Just book him if you want to try him. You don’t say how you saw he was offering services though? I assume he wasn’t advertising on Grindr (they don’t like you soliciting for work on their app). Book him via his massage services profile, wherever that is, rather than via Grindr.

I was referring to misconceptions about the costs independent masseurs have. Guys assume that because I charge say £150 for an hour then I’m on £1200 a day, £250k a year, and use that as justification for not tipping. That I have zero costs (no advertising costs, no supplies costs, no accommodation costs, no healthcare costs). That’s the misconception about how the business works.

The endless tipping debate. Notice that masseurs / escorts aren’t making much comment, and when they do it’s just to say ‘I’m pleased to get a tip but I don’t expect one’… that kind of thing. We generally don’t get worked up about it. I think it’s a hirer thing. The reasons given in this thread for whether or not clients tip are almost all to do with themselves and their views (often mistaken) on how the business works and not much to do with the actual service provided. Tipping seems to be more about making the hirer feel good about themselves or setting right inconsistencies or injustices they see in the provider’s pricing or adjusting some power dynamic. That’s fine, tip or don’t tip, up to you, but it really isn’t a big issue for providers. It’s appreciated of course but that’s it. It has no impact on how I set my rates, on what’s included in the session, on how I view the client or on whether I accept a future booking. What does impact those things is how respectful, clean, on time, reliable, regular etc the client is. Not whether he tips.

Since the early 60’s I think. It’s not especially old (in London terms).

If you go too far he will signal that to you, perhaps by moving your hand or by moving himself away from your hands. When I give massages I welcome clients touching me back, it’s great feedback. But sometimes they go too far too fast. If he’s touching me too much I might move towards his feet or out of reach so that I can slow things down a little. Touch as much as you like but be prepared for him to take charge on how much of it you can do.

There’s some obvious red flags: Pictures too good to be true, complicated procedures to go through to book / meet, requests for deposits. A combination of these should mean you’re best to walk away. Decent guys will have honest pictures (of them), be simple to hire and will only ask for payment after they’ve delivered the service.

I’ve visited the US many times but I won’t be back anytime soon. The risk of being turned away at the border is too high. I don’t put my face on my adverts but I do share it if clients ask. Understanding how zealous and censorious US border agents are I’d not want to take the chance that they know me and what I do.

I take cash (any currency, clients have paid me in £, US$, €) and can accept all credit cards. Venmo isn’t used here as far as I’m aware. PayPal is possible but I don’t like it. If you have a bank account with a platform like Revolut you can pay me from that too very easily (including payment in Crypto 😬). Banking is much more advanced here in Europe than it is in the US.