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Judging by this thread he gets around without getting a lot of clients on here

Bullshit.
Answer the questions directly or get the fuck out. 
“The universe" doesn’t give a fuck about your antibodies….but I do.
“Special" as in "Olympics"?
”Special" as in "$1.99 per pound"?
"Special" as in "isn’t that special”?
”Special” as in “NBC Afternoon Special”?
”Special” as in “today’s special is meatloaf”?
The mind wonders……

I love when someone remembers a thread about a bad masseur name changer 🍿 Why I keep coming back to this place 😁

I love when someone remembers a thread about a bad masseur name changer 🍿 Why I keep coming back to this place 😁

I found this thread, which shows him changing his RM profile name couple times in the past: 
 

He is a name changer. There is at least one prior thread on him when his name was Georgii or something like that. Do not hire him. He does a poor job at managing client expectations, upsells you for every little thing as the massage is taking place and does not know what he is doing - mediocre massage at best. 
PM me if you have more questions about his upselling. 

Better hurry, I saw he's up to $125 now!

Better hurry, I saw he's up to $125 now!

ha ha fair point! If I do book will report back if its a great 120 therapeutic massage

Booked him. Nice guy. Good looking, beefy bod, huge u/c equipment, horny. Surprised when SamTOPbodywork flipped to SamBOTTOMbodywork. Fun time.

I had a fitting room experience with a sales clerk, but it was not as out of line as at a department store. I had gone to a local sex shop to look at cock rings. The store I went to was in the gay area of town, and it had glass windows that you could see everything inside, so not like a cruising sex shop. Nothing displayed was necessarily vulgar to the innocent. I had gotten a cock ring, the leather style with buttons to size it, and found it too uncomfortable. I didn't want to get a regular one too small or big so I asked the guy, cute latino mid twenties, working about sizing. They just so happened to have two dressing rooms he directed me to. I barely closed the curtain, and he was quickly peeking in. Moments later he was on his knees deep throating me. After I came I made my purchase and left. This was in the early afternoon so anyone could have peaked through the windows and thought the store was empty, or see both of us leave the dressing room at same time. 

I had a fitting room experience with a sales clerk, but it was not as out of line as at a department store. I had gone to a local sex shop to look at cock rings. The store I went to was in the gay area of town, and it had glass windows that you could see everything inside, so not like a cruising sex shop. Nothing displayed was necessarily vulgar to the innocent. I had gotten a cock ring, the leather style with buttons to size it, and found it too uncomfortable. I didn't want to get a regular one too small or big so I asked the guy, cute latino mid twenties, working about sizing. They just so happened to have two dressing rooms he directed me to. I barely closed the curtain, and he was quickly peeking in. Moments later he was on his knees deep throating me. After I came I made my purchase and left. This was in the early afternoon so anyone could have peaked through the windows and thought the store was empty, or see both of us leave the dressing room at same time. 

I had a fitting room experience with a sales clerk, but it was not as out of line as at a department store. I had gone to a local sex shop to look at cock rings. The store I went to was in the gay area of town, and it had glass windows that you could see everything inside, so not like a cruising sex shop. Nothing displayed was necessarily vulgar to the innocent. I had gotten a cock ring, the leather style with buttons to size it, and found it too uncomfortable. I didn't want to get a regular one too small or big so I asked the guy, cute latino mid twenties, working about sizing. They just so happened to have two dressing rooms he directed me to. I barely closed the curtain, and he was quickly peeking in. Moments later he was on his knees deep throating me. After I came I made my purchase and left. This was in the early afternoon so anyone could have peaked through the windows and thought the store was empty, or see both of us leave the dressing room at same time. 

This is the barber I need
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Gotta love the market. It's up to them to try to charge more, see how it goes. It's up to the clients to decide how much is too much. Honestly, I am not paying more than $120 for therapeutic massage, period. But then, I would prefer someone I am not attracted too, for obvious reasons 😉 

I'm right there on crossreferencing, it helps.
The last two massages I had I hired off MF, and I have to admit both were what I wanted in a massage in terms of extras, while the first was a mediocre (not bad) rubdown, the second guy gave a phenomenal massage. There's another provider I found on MF that I E-mailed and he gave me a lovely menu of options and prices that have me hopeful.
One thing I notice when I cross-reference here. The MF profile numbers are easiest to search. While not an absolute, I would guess the guys on MF with lower numbers are more likely to have been on MF back when it was a bit more akin to what RM currently is. There were private photos, ads were encouraged to be made more explicit as a friend of mine was told, and the reviews were much easier to post as a client. 

Post rentboy prosecutions, masseurfinder has become extremely chaste. It's very difficult to gauge what the masseurs on that site are up for.  I usually cross reference both sites - one to confirm they're "real" masseurs (not upselling fakes) and the other to see how "thorough" the massage will be. 

Not the conversation I had with the provider, which I thought was clear in my original post...perhaps the reading comprehension is above your weight class?

Again, NOT out of town provider.

This isn’t an out of town provider. His apartment is walking distance from my home. My point is he was expecting payment AGAIN with < 24 hours from the first session. I’m confident I made the right decision in my response, especially after sleeping on it and reading the responses here. 

Two different dudes

Hi everyone,
curious if I'm off base on this. Friday night I met up with a new guy for a massage that went WAY beyond massage. To say the least I got upsold multiple times, and it was well worth it in my opinion. The provider checks a lot of boxes that I find attractive. There was some dirty talk etc. implying he wanted to repeat, and "own" me so to speak. Fast forward to Saturday evening, I get a text from him saying he wants to go for it again. So here's where my question is. If you as a provider enjoyed your time with a client, and are horny for a repeat, do you expect them to pay if you reach out to them? This was not an offer of a discount that they were advertising, this was they wanted to meet for a full repeat, with full money. 
My responses to him started with that my wallet hadn't recovered from the night before, he responded saying he'd do it for $xxx. He kept pressing, and I finally had to tell him that if I had messaged him to meet it would be one thing, but the fact he was messaging me the day after for a hookup, I was not going to pay.
Am I wrong for turning him down in this manner?

Just don’t do it. If a client wants to see me they’ll be in touch. I don’t need to go asking for business fortunately. I don’t travel either so there’s no need to let anyone know I’m in town. 

Many clients are in relationships, some are in high profile roles, they want discretion. If I contact them that could jeopardise their situation. I think discretion is of utmost importance. 
 

This isn’t an out of town provider. His apartment is walking distance from my home. My point is he was expecting payment AGAIN with < 24 hours from the first session. I’m confident I made the right decision in my response, especially after sleeping on it and reading the responses here. 

Ditto to most of this.
Most "client contacts" I received were visitors from out of town, who I'd either seen before, or expressed interest in (but was unable to meet).
I can think of 2 times a local provider reached out to me (not counting the desperate - and ignored - RM messages I received during the pandemic).
1. A kid I stopped hiring because he was always very late. He needed money, but has yet to understand that people with money usually have to follow a strict schedule. He got so persistent that I blocked him.
2. A guy called me a few weeks after our first session. That was 6 years ago, and he's still my favorite regular.