Smokey

If you are certified/licensed, the cost of school: almost $4000 at our local community college, over triple that at a nearby trade school. Then ongoing classes to maintain your certification.
 
If you do it as your livelihood then add in liability insurance to protect yourself and some kind of percentage you put aside to cover vacations, illness, unexpected down time, and retirement fund.

I strongly prioritize therapeutic skill and knowledge over everything else. I've had my share of "surprises" with therapeutic only providers and I don't share details here, even in PM. Many of those "surprises" are strongly based on personalities, chemistry, and just "the moment." I believe it's unfair to the provider to publicly or privately broadcast details because it creates false expectations.

I laughed my ass off when I read this....so true.
 
We’re both naked?....more than “therapeutic” is going to happen.
 
Don’t want more to happen?....keep your pants on and cut your rate in half.
 
Even then it’s unlikely I’ll repeat, but at least we’re clear on what is or isn’t happening.

Agree, I keep quiet about all the extras I enjoy:) let others work out their own situations - don't want them going in there saying I said................ Not going to chance wrecking the good things I have going for me:)
 
One masseur even said after he blew me on the first visit - it is good to massage you, you appreciate and enjoy what I am doing, not everyone does -- so I wanted to make it special!!! and special it was -- of course I go to him monthly.

I have enjoyed many a sensual massage where we luxuriated in each other’s naked body and masculine spirit, where erections came and went without becoming the focus of attention and there was no emphasis on achieving orgasm, that were beautiful joyful spiritual experiences. If the masseur has had Body Electric workshop training that is more common. I was enjoying one of these in NYC with a provider I had seen in Boston and while were slowly discovering each other I came, and regretted that it closed down the session. He looked at me and said poetically, “don’t feel bad, the path to orgasm is the clearest most travelled path and always tempting to take it but next time let’s explore the rest of the garden”

Again what others have said... but whatever happens (or doesn’t happen) don’t take it personally. There are a gazillion and six reasons why a masseur would suggest a sensual massage only for it to turn out therapeutic and sometimes even badly at that. Everything from the masseur having a boyfriend who doesn’t like his partner engaging in forms of intimacy (or body contact) with another (even if it relates to the work of massage)... to the masseur just having a bad day.
 
I have known of multiple masseurs who (back in the day) advertised as erotic and it was everything but that... and those who were « therapeutic only » and it was not that at all. You really never know why... not exactly. And so much depends « in the moment. »
 
What actually frustrates me more is when a masseur advertises as therapeutic, but then strips down and massages nude but doesn’t allow for any mutual touch or even that electric « brush » by of the body. Nothing. I mean what’s the point of being naked? Better off going to the mall or airport and getting one of those chair massages where you are nearly mauled to death and everyone keeps their clothes on.
 
Sigh. But yes. As others have said... clarify up front... or... hang on for the ride and see what happens.

Good lord, that has probably happened to everybody at least once! Of course after the "nastiness" is over, I love this lie: "I don't USUALLY do this sort of thing with my clients." I always think to myself yeah right! Terp

TOTALLY inappropriate topic for this forum!
I think a timeout is in order.

I believe that vid comes from sensualmassagemovies.com. They have good content.

Then why is he teasing us with shirtless pics?

Not sure if this has been posted but I think this too is nice. For the most part I think this is what we hope to get at a minimum but more interaction is highly preferred of course (sorry if it’s been posted already)
 
https://www.xtube.com/video-watch/sensual-massage-demonstration-28030701

Very Hot Hands Free
https://www.xtube.com/video-watch/increible-gay-massage-33135452

People come and go so quickly around here

For another 4-hand massage
 
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1730830857

Well, they're meant to be a fantasy. In some of these videos enough massage oil is poured to deep fry potatoes and I wonder who has to wash it out of those towels and sheets?

Don't know if this one has been posted here. It's a new favorite.
 
https://www.xtube.com/video-watch/27-07-18-gay-massage-36805881

That one is from sensualmassagemovies.com
Subscription service. They post new ones every 2 weeks. Some are very fun.

I choose to tip. That's how I am. However, if the rate is already sky high and/or if the session did not go well. then just a small one or none in a few cases. But a guy has to make a living. That's my motto.

Thanks for your empathetic response @Chuckball. I get tested regularly, and went for testing the day after the incident also.

The reaction by @rainyday conforms with the position of many who have been sexually assaulted. Did I do something wrong?
I can well understand why he may not want to report the situation but for his psychological well being he needs our support. He didn't do anything wrong. He was taken advantage of.
Hopefully he got tested and all results were negative. Any masseur that would do this is deplorable and should be made to know that others will find out.

If you are hired as masseur try to balance the massage and sensual aspects... do not try to change the session to an escort experience. Some customers have limits. Ask or try to read body language.

One where the massage rather than the porn is the focus...
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=152580060

We're all getting robbed at the White House on a daily basis.

Hot guys, hopeless masseurs!