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Don’t take this amiss @Chad Constantine. With all the questions you’ve raised, I really feel you should take your thread into the locker-rooms, changing rooms and showers of gyms in the real world. Perhaps you could tell gym-managers that you’ve been retained by underwear companies to survey what hot gay men, who are always fashion-forward, are actually wearing to the gym. I would be happy to help you draft an in-depth questionnaire.

“Commute” to and from where? Buenos Aires is a huge city but the good areas are easily covered by any of the numerous radio-taxis All the hotels and the telos (hourly rental places) are gay-friendly IME (as the law prohibits discrimination). The major hotels will of course have security but that is for your protection - and it’s important - for instance, checking the ID of any visitors to your room.

It’d be interesting to hear back from @iveryhotijake He was supposed to be there a few months back and was looking for suitable companions

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I’ve often seen guys changing out of jocks and into the usual high-end brands (Armani, Zegna, D&G, Boss). They seem to be cotton mainly but some have a cotton/Lycra mix.

I’m fascinated by some of the replies to the OP. I belong to 2 smart gyms where the membership has a large number of fit young gay men. I can assure you that guys pay considerable attention to what they wear to work out, and in the changing rooms they often notice what designer underwear guys have.

@Brutus I’m stunned that you would be so crass. No, you NEVER ask “if he escorts”! You have to be respectful. The essence of this thread is that these young men are often available. They do not, however, consider themselves as escorts nor do they advertise. If you’re just looking for an hour of wham-bang quick sex, these guys are not for you. The aim is to form a relationship with a handsome, muscled young man. If you are an older man, you have to use your natural advantages of experience, worldliness and financial capacity. Of course to a handsome muscled young man of 18-23, an older man can be aged 35. I’m much older than that and was 50 when I started meeting models etc. I have the ability to talk to people easily, to make them laugh and to focus all my attention on them. In short, I always courted a young man and seduced him into my bed. Luckily, in many cases it didn’t require a lot of effort. I mentioned earlier that I’d always invite an attractive young guy to dinner in a good restaurant. I also stated how you have to be aware that these guys may work as models, trainers etc but their financial situation is generally precarious. I always preferred to have an introduction to a guy from a mutual contact, but if that wasn’t possible I’d use a direct (but respectful) approach. FWIW to a guy I was chatting to in person, I used to smile and say ‘ You’re interesting. I’d like to get to know you better. How about I take you for a coffee (or a drink, or lunch, or dinner)?’ Just suggest whatever seems appropriate for the time/place, eg if at the gym after a work-out, I’d offer to buy them a meal. Be friendly and don’t get upset if he refuses; just smile and say ‘I hope to see you around. Maybe next time we can chat more’ And in the past, I’ve met a few guys off IG. I send a polite message, saying their posts have impressed me and I would enjoy meeting them. I suggest that I take them out for drinks to get acquainted. Bear in mind that most handsome, muscled young men (working as models, trainers etc) have been hit on before by older men (and women). They are not going to be surprised or shocked by you but you must display some finesse and discretion. Most of these guys do not want their friends to know how they manage to finance their lifestyle.

I agree strongly with what [uSER=19303]@europeanman[/uSER] has written. Male models earn very little and their incomes are very variable. Yet apartment rental, gym memberships, phone bills, good nutrition and travel costs are all recurring expenses that can be considerable. As young men, they often have a taste for fashionable clothes and expensive gadgets. So it pays for an older man to be generous and open-handed. I always used to start by inviting a guy to dinner and buying cocktails and a bottle of expensive wine. If the evening proceeded well, the model came home with me and stayed for breakfast. It was extremely rare for me to have to explain “compatibility”to a young man - whether a fitness or fashion model, personal trainer or aspiring actor, a handsome young man generally understood that he had to meet my needs first if I was to be expected to meet his.

Sorry you were scammed @Cody22

Don't be faint-hearted. Enjoy the times you will spend together and have fun in his company. It may develop to be more than you currently imagine.

I so agree. I still recall the old advertising slogan in the US: Fly First Class or Your Heirs Will.

I agree with @tassojunior . I speak Castilian quite well and I understand and speak some Catalan, yet I find that Barcelona taxi-drivers at the airport routinely try to rip me off. If you don't have much luggage, I recommend the Airport Bus which is cheap and has an express service from the terminals to Plaza España (first stop). That's a short walk to Thermas as it happens. In Venice, I take the water-bus routinely but I would always have a private water-taxi from/to the airport. It's simply a lovely way to travel to your preferred hotel (assuming it has a private landing).

I agree with @Benjamin_Nicholas. FWIW I have booked several round-the-world trips (involving flights to many cities) online. I found the multi-city booking and search options on the oneworld alliance of 15 different airlines to be the best https://www.oneworld.com/ but Google Flights is a very close second. And as it happens, I find the detailed planning of complex trips to be quite an enjoyable part of the vacation.

This pic of 3 Brazilian models brought back memories, both happy and sad. Happy that I played with 2 of the guys pictured. Sad that the guy in white/red swimsuit was brutally stabbed to death in his apartment about a year later.

If the question is directed at me @goosh69 Certainly Not! We have had a full physical and throughly enjoyable relationship starting with our first date. I'm with @MikeBiDude on this. To guys I wasn't attracted to, I tended to say "I don't feel we're really compatible. I'm sure you will find someone who's better for you than me, so Good Luck in the future".

Look, I'm not suggesting that SA is great for everyone. It depends largely on what you, the older man, are seeking. It clearly requires you to commit considerable time and some money. I can only speak for myself. Over the years, I had my fill of handsome muscle-boys and escorts: some were great in bed, some were only so-so. I wanted a regular boyfriend. The dating apps didn't work for me and as I don't go to bars, I felt I had to advertise online. Now I admit I'm very particular; I wanted a good-looking younger guy who's caring, intelligent and very presentable. I didn't mind going on a number of dates: some guys were simply dull, some were uninteresting and I certainly met some no-hopers. I even had one first-date that was so horrendous I can relate the details to general hilarity even years later. But I met the guy I wanted. And it turns out that he'd been looking for someone like me. He's certainly not high-maintenance. Of course, I spend money on him but no more than I'd spend in any relationship. I like us to do things together (travel, theatre, wine and dine etc) and he's brought great joy into my life. We've been together for several years now.

I feel some posters are simply over-analysing what people write. A handsome young man may set out his ideal of what an older man can offer and describe what he can provide in return. Similarly, a well-off older man (like me) may describe the ideal young man in physical terms (handsome face/ripped muscled body) and activities (eager bottom/skilled oralist) while being general about what may be offered in return. In my view, both parties recognise that they are describing their Perfect Companion and they know they will have to compromise in reality. And in my direct experience, young men are often very ready to get naked and perform on a first date. That's happened after we've spent an hour talking privately over drinks and I've made them laugh, and I've listened to them and made them feel comfortable with me. And Yes, I've had first dates where a fit and handsome young man has done everything in bed to please me, including swallow my load. Meeting via SA is really not that different from any first date. If there's no chemistry or spark, there's no second date; if interest is ignited, then a relationship can start. All that SA does is establish from the outset that both men have specific needs and wish to have them met.

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Wow, if you hadn't said it was him, I would not have recognised him. He's not ageing well IMHO

He'd have to pay me that rate

Perhaps only in Palm Springs...

That is from some years ago. He's still well-muscled and has a ripped body, but since he lost the weight his upper body is no longer cartoonishly bulky.

It would be for me: when I want company, I like to have a threesome or a fourgy at most. With a handsome muscleboy-bottom in the bed, all 3 or 4 cocks can rotate between his holes and provide variety for a good spit-roast.

Since he dropped 30lbs recently, I feel he's much more attractive; he no longer looks so bulky and steroidal.

What an interesting thread. My boyfriend makes our bed daily. He did it unasked after our first date and has continued ever since. I send the sheets etc out to be laundered and ironed. And we use linen napkins at every meal. I like these rituals in our life together.