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I've not met him, but he's been working in London for a few years. He is an extremely skinny twink.

Steven Dehler may have a great physique and a formidable butt, but why is he considered an actor? AFAIK his fame resides on the West Hollywood gay scene.

Unless there are 2 guys using the same name, I thought he died about 10 years ago. I'm not into steroidal bodybuilders at all. I do know that steroid use is rampant in the US, Australia and the UK. I suspect body dysmorphia is an increasing problem among young men. Steroid usage can and does lead to many health problems.

Correct (tho I'm unsure whether you have the spelling accurately)

Yes I do. But I know his real name. Disclosing that here would be wrong, and also a breach of the site's terms. I don't recall his working/model name but if you do a google image search, you should find him readily.

Don't think you'd have to fight to get 91. He's Russian, a big muscle-bottom, who likes to get paid. I saw him in NYC a few years ago when he was travelling with friends. He was very discreet as his friends were staying in the same hotel. He's part of that group of Russian 'models' who travel to the US and European gay resorts for 'photographic' sessions.

I understand that everyone is different, that each arrangement will be different and that people are willing to devote differing levels of resource to the arrangement. So please accept @latbear4blk that I mean no disrespect when I say this. I wonder if you have thought whether there is a connection between you not going out "very often" and you reporting sex that you consider to be only OK. I feel that there is a connection between the level of generosity the older man displays and the eagerness to please of the younger man. Over the years, I've had considerable success with these arrangements. I've had several handsome and nicely-muscled young men as long-term companions. They proved to be compliant and given me great pleasure in and out of bed. In return, I've been open-hearted and open-handed; young men have often described me as extremely generous. When I have a new boyfriend, and before he begins to live with me, I make a point of discovering what he would most enjoy doing (whether it's eating in good restaurants, foreign travel or the performing arts). I also try to find out if there are things he needs, or if there's something he'd like to do, which I can finance. Once we're in a committed relationship, I ensure that he always has some spending money. For me, this makes the arrangement/relationship seem more equal and the young man feels more valued. I find that young men respond readily to being treated generously; the result is that I've had sex regularly and often it's been great sex, but it's never been "OK sex"

Yes, you are over-thinking....wildly IMHO. Unless you have a plan to seduce him, install him in a London townhouse and an Italian beach-house, and live happily ever after. I don't see him taking the top bunk even when he's 'mature'.

I'm not sure, Trebor, that you should have included him here. This muscleboy is my current 'crush'. He has, however, only recently turned his hair very blond, starting taking expensive foreign vacations and wearing well-fitting briefs. I wonder what the reason might be....

I agree with Liubit and I know that he's rather expert on these guys from the Czech and Slovak republics. Over the years when I hired, I met 8 different Slovak young men - all early 20s, handsome with smooth ripped bodies - who kissed deeply and bottomed enthusiastically. Slovakia has a small population (just over 5 million) and I was surprised to find so many willing young men from there.

I'm not sure that's an insightful observation. The clue is in the name: lots of men seem to be interested in an "arrangement". I know I was before I met my current boyfriend, and I used the apps and all the usual sites to find a guy who met my ideals and needs. For my part, I never really enjoyed "one-off" sex. I prefer to have a connection with a guy and for me, that develops over several dates and longer duration encounters. When I hired, that meant multiple-hour/overnight sessions; with regular dates, it meant dinner and activities leading to weekend trips and vacations together. I guess this thread has elicited such various responses because so many of us are looking for some combination of company, friendship, emotional support, affection and sex. I take the view that there's nothing wrong about any arrangement (or hiring) where two adults freely consent to spend time together: if a young man offers his energy and physical beauty to please an older man while, in turn, the older man picks up restaurant checks, organises theatre and concert tickets and arranges vacation trips to please the younger man.

The lovely young man in the pic is definitely blond and built. I believe he's Ellis McCreadie. Alas the pic is several years old and he's looking rather grizzled these days.

For this, Marylander1940, you must surely win the award for most ironic post of the week ;-)

Now, now Latbear4blk. If I found what you term a "smoking hot guy" on SA, I wouldn't let my attention stray to a dancer, I'd focus on having a second date.

You are correct, Epigonos. https://m4m-forum.org/threads/posting-guidelines-keep-us-out-of-hot-water.75514/ It may be desirable to see them but they can be found elsewhere readily, online and in real-life. It is foolish to endanger this site that is so useful to us all.

Oh my, LaffingBear! I'm tempted to observe that you have so much to be humble about ;-)

I agree wholeheartedly.

Trebor, I think he's Evan Harman

Matthew Rush definitely did. He escorted for a week in London.

He is cute. One great improvement is that he's (recently) learned to lower his voice. Previously his voice was quite high-pitched, especially when he was excited.

Wow! If I was still in the market, he's exactly the boy I'd hire to pound for a weekend. I can only imagine how delicious he must have been to spitroast by Wanderwest and his buddy.

Eight by Six, you've had good advice here. FWIW in the past I've had plenty of threesomes, and organised some fourgies; I always found them fun. Generally I'd always play with each guy separately on an earlier occasion. This ensured that I had an appreciation of their abilities before I asked them to join me for some group fun. I'm a lazy selfish top and my approach, when arranging some group fun, was as follows. Send short but detailed emails or say you'd like a short phone conversation. Be specific as to what you want to do/have done to you. Ensure that the guys you're hiring like each other and will mesh well by telling them about each other. Do not spring any surprises. If something is very important to you, mention it upfront - EG you are a voyeur but want to see the top unload so check where the bottom receives cum; EG I'm a top but I always wanted to see each guy cum, and I wanted to be the centre of attention and enjoyed seeing the hottest bottom swallow my load. Aim for a comfortable and relaxed atmosphere beforehand, whether you're hosting at home or in an hotel. Find out their favourite beverages in advance. When the guys arrive, have small bottles of water ready and open a bottle of wine. Have plenty of condoms and lube near to hand Have the agreed fees in separate, named envelopes - pay a full price and have the date of your dreams.

I'm not that fond of Max Emerson but I hope his relationship is able to withstand all the publicity on social media.

Pic #130 is of Calum Windsor, an Australian model/wannabe, and it's very surprising indeed. In his many photos online Calum is almost always naked. In this pic, Calum is by his standards fully dressed. I don't have a fetish for clothing but I feel obliged to ask: in what dark corner of the internet did you find this, Moondance?

Certainly to me, it was surprisingly uninteresting. What is the point of a guy having a very big dick if it stays completely flaccid and floppy as in the video?