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Not to squabble but you’re neglecting to mention ‘cost-push inflation’ which we haven’t seen for some time. Like many others here (I assume), my equity holdings have fallen in value. I will add to them from cash very gradually as I suspect this volatility will persist. Meantime, my inflation-proofed investments have gone up in value…and I think they will go higher as I expect inflation will be more of a problem than many believe.

I’ve done that. Guys who enjoy cleaning and are efficient do exist. As men, they often find it difficult to be taken seriously as a cleaner. One guy who did a weekly clean for me one Summer was a tourist, staying with friends. So he wanted cash-in-hand. He was quite flirty and worked stripped down to his briefs. We had fun together once (scratched an itch but no repeat). The other man was a law student who took a year off to travel before joining a firm. I gave him ‘room & board’ in exchange for cleaning my apartment. No cash changed hands as he shared my bed nightly and I took him on several trips with me (very thorough cleaner, decent kisser, greedy cocksucker).

Well, I hope you wrote a ‘Thank You’ note afterwards to express your appreciation.

Obviously, there’s a much greater number of guys if you travel into NYC. So just to clarify…You want to date someone tonight, you want to host in Eastern LI, and he has to be very muscular? What might work for you is a Search on this site. I recall there was a regular sex party on LI but I recall neither the name nor the location.

I can’t help with your enquiry but you certainly have great taste when it comes to a fit-bodied man @PragueMen

I remember Sean in San Diego from way back then. He was easy to contact and equally eager to please on a date. Of course, his hairstyle is rather different now (as is mine from years ago).

My two cents (as a client, not a provider) for the OP…. I organized quite a few such events/parties over the years. (I assume you’re essentially having a small group for a sex party, and not seeking another guy for a 3some where you split the cost of a provider’s time). You need to ensure you have a good mix of hobbyists, ie nice guys who will play well together and be unselfish, with a mix of skills in bed. Then you need to find providers with a complementary set of skills to mesh with you and the other men. While such events can make for an amazingly erotic time extending over several hours, I cannot stress enough THAT IT IS A LOT OF WORK. You’ll be surprised how much time you will need to invest in first interviewing the other ‘hobbyists’ and planning. You need to do this so you can assure the working guys that it will all go well. My own experience was that other hobbyists can be shy or reluctant to confide what fetish or kink they enjoy. Working guys always wanted to know the other workers and what the men were expecting. I always took a suite in a large hotel and checked in a couple of hours early, not to relax but to make sure everything was set up properly (ordering more glasses, wine & bottles of water, getting extra pillows, lots of extra towels etc) - it’s not a good idea to order room service after the fun has started! Again my experience was that providers can work the group well. It was always better when the clients had different skills/desires. And you need to set rules in advance (eg no drugs, cum only on a guy’s face or chest) to meet the stated preferences of the providers. It worked best with 2 clients & 3 providers or 3 clients & 3-4 providers. I had a lot of fun playing with another guy who loved to rim a bubble butt and another (surprisingly handsome) client who loved to watch others have sex. As I’m a lazy, selfish top, I invited 3-4 muscleboys (1-2 bottom, 2 fully versatile). I used to state a start time, but allow a 15/20 minute window, as there’s always a late arrival. I stipulated guys should strip down to white briefs on arrival so we could chat easily…I used to invite the best cocksucker I knew so that he’d ‘break the ice’ by sucking all the cocks in turn. And to the OP, it will be a very horny and memorable evening…but it will also be very expensive 😎

When you encounter one, you will know. And believe me: you will be thrilled. Just as I was by a blond muscleboy who, while sucking me, reflexively came hands-free as my spurts hit the back of his throat.

I guess it depends on where you live or, more precisely, on where you’re obtaining the massage. I’m rather ‘old school’ about gratuities. It makes sense to me to be generous (1) when any service-provider goes ‘above and beyond’ to ensure that I receive excellent service. (2) equally it’s unnecessary to tip if the service is routine AND the service-provider is an individual who sets the rates. (I was brought up NOT to tip a business-owner as it was considered then to be insulting). (3) If the service is only OK but the provider is working in a spa or hotel where the establishment collects the rate, I’d add a routine gratuity. If the service is bad, however, I’d leave a zero tip…and I’m prepared to tell the provider why.

With a handsome face and a great physique, he could be really successful. He’s taken the first step in monetizing his assets already. Since he needs money, how hard would it be to learn to suck dick and swallow loads? From reading this thread, it’s obvious there are many guys willing to let him “learn on the job”.

No. They would be quoting Samuel Johnson. London, however, is a good choice if you live centrally and have a sizeable income. Then there is a huge range of cuisines in the restaurants as well as top-quality theatre and classical music.

I know young men who vape but it’s rare nowadays to find a smoker (of weed or tobacco). How did you discover this? Have you met him?

Apparently I grunt. Usually it’s as I climax. I’ve been told twice by bottoms that they find it sexy (which might say more about them than me).

I agree with a lot of what @pubic_assistance wrote. I enjoyed visiting Uruguay 5x but the last time was 12 years ago. I had great vacations at the beach by staying in Jose Ignacio. While I too disliked the built-up Punta del Este, I’d recommend Jose Ignacio for charm, beautiful beaches and good restaurants. But don’t think that it’s cheap: the prices in season back then often rivalled the South of France. Nonetheless, quality matched the prices; both were high. I felt Jose Ignacio was what East Hampton was like in the 1960s (according to my parents’ reminiscing). It felt very safe. Often the beach houses were very smart, yet left empty and unlocked. There was a small crime wave when I was there last: a band of Brazilian criminals had drive overland and robbed stores at gunpoint etc, but the local police (visible police cars parked on the main entry roads) assured me they were hunting them. i have no first-hand knowledge but an Argentine woman, whose elderly parents lived in Montevideo, told me there was a lot of low level crime there. It had worsened in the previous years to such an extent that they had considered moving back to Buenos Aires. Incidentally I was unaware that the ferry crossing was now so rapid, as @TruthBTold stated, that you could get to Buenos Aires in 15 minutes. When I made the crossing several times, it took some hours.

Pity there isn’t a “Dicks Wanted” section in the LA Times classified ads anymore 😎

There are some vile people out there. I’m glad he’s been caught, and that the American judicial system is robust.

Both @ApexNomad and @pubic_assistance have made good points in this thread. As two intelligent and reasonable people, I feel you have to agree to disagree on the above issue. One point that hasn’t been made is regarding clients. Some are inexperienced, some may be regular hourly customers thinking of longer dates, some may need to budget for the expense. And there are some like me. I’m happy to have a reasonable talk with a younger man who has, in my opinion, over-inflated expectations. I know, however, that many people dislike talking about money and charges and get embarrassed. I even disconcerted my fancy (and very expensive) lawyers recently when I asked about the hours I was being billed at partner level and the rates I was being charged for a new trainee to work on my account.

Very odd. Is it known whether he’s gay or closeted? I wonder if the chaplain came onto someone wildly inappropriate such as a young police officer.

Interesting thread overall. i always enjoyed the overnight dates I had. The relaxed times we had talking at a play or gallery visit and over dinner acted as foreplay to the intense erotic times we spent exploring each other. A big part of an overnight date for me was to have my guy fellate me in the morning. I’d wake up early and shower, and get back into bed to be sucked off to completion. The best times we’d cuddle afterwards and then eat breakfast. If ever I found a potential overnight date wasn’t keen to have morning sex, I’d only arrange 2-3 hours in the afternoon or evening with him.

My advice is different. These things happen. And travel sometimes involves delays (cancelled flights, lost baggage etc). The man’s explanation was straightforward, and my guess is that you wouldn’t want to have started your weekend with a stressed and tired date. Since you obviously enjoy his company, I suggest you see him for another date of an hour when you want. Towards the end of that date, you might calmly discuss what happened and how you felt. This would help you judge better whether another weekend would work. I’d have liked more specific detail. From what you wrote, @FaustOustyou were there at least a day before your weekend date was due to start. Did he know your travel plans? Had you discussed your bookings of concerts, dinners etc with him in advance? I always enjoyed longer dates when I was single. And when I discussed the options with a man, I’d be sure to get the details bolted down - not only flight times, concerts or plays we might see, the hotel etc, but also what time I’d pick him up, what sort of clothes he might need (eg beach resort casual but dinner one night at a Michelin starred place) and what sort of time we’d return and I’d drop him off at home. It may seem ‘anal’ or ‘obsessive’ to go into all the minutiae but many young men have never booked their own vacations or an overseas trip, so they might not consider their passport validity. And it helps the young man to focus on all that’s required for him to be ready to go when you want to leave for the weekend. Nonetheless, doing all that I suggest is necessary, I too have been disappointed. One time, a guy I’d had a lot of fun with on overnight dates was very excited to come with me to Africa. I’d given him times, dates etc but only on the day of travel, he found his passport had expired. Another time, I arranged a weekend date with an LA guy who was hugely popular and raved about here. When I called to give him the hotel-room number the first afternoon, he made a weak excuse to cancel - I called him back an hour later using a phone unknown to him, and found he was available that evening - surprise!

All the enthusiastic young men I dated were “offline or private” as you put it. They were more likely to describe themselves as ‘amateurs’. The best muscle-bottom I had regularly never advertised at all. He was very discreet and took new clients only by introduction. The second best, a blond muscleboy, was on Rentboy(as was) for 2 months only. It was enough time for him to garner a small but appreciative clientele, and I appreciated him fully and regularly for some years. Curiously these amateurs never charged top dollar. They were smart and wanted a stable, trustworthy clientele.

Entirely agree: I’ve done that previously with new guys. I say beforehand that it’s for an hour but if it works for both of us, I’d like a second hour. It comes down to human interaction. If the new man is a great bottom, I like to extend(ahem) for a second topping. There have been guys who didn't want a second pounding but they readily found other ways to please and delight me in the extra hour. And there have also been guys that were good for an hour…but I had to ‘suddenly recall’ that I had an appointment across town. They were smart enough to know the time was up and we always parted pleasantly.

I want to respect his privacy but I was in recent contact with Coolwave aka Guest. There’s nothing sinister and physically he is fine. For those who are cynical by nature, as I am, his recent relationship ending badly was unsurprising. It has taken an emotional toll on him and he has decided to take a break from hiring. I’m sure that many of us wish him a speedy recovery. I hope he will be back as I enjoy his posts and observations about the business.

Agree entirely. We saw it in a relaxed screening one afternoon. We both enjoyed it but we were of the same opinion. The first (of two parts in the first half) is tremendous, conveying the chaos and displacement of people after the War, and the second part in the US is engrossing. The second half is rather a mess and I felt the editing could have been better.

I don’t mind what drugs or alcohol adults consume in their own home, but I do not permit them to bring drugs into my house. If on arrival, someone informed me they had drugs with them, I’d kick them out.