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I’m in my 70s but I have a lot of younger friends, and I would never discuss either ‘thing’ mentioned above. To me, it’s part of staying young…like being well-groomed and dressed and keeping in decent shape. Why not go out to dinner in a restaurant? It breaks your routine, but that’s part of being flexible. And if driving home afterwards is a problem for you, just say beforehand “Dinner would be great. But I’m not good at driving at night, so will you mind running me back?’

Well, if you don’t have money but bodybuilders make you weak at the knees, I suggest you join a gym where they work out. Assuming you have time and patience, use discretion and engage the guys you admire in conversation. It’s best to use humour and chat when a guy is on his own. Keep it light and once you’ve made your interest clear, invite the guy for a meal after his work-out…then you mention your willingness to offer financial support. Bodybuilding is an expensive hobby. The guys will most probably have been hit on before, so don’t overthink it. And take the guy for a test-drive very soon afterwards so you can determine how compatible you both are.

Please be kind to these wannabes. They work hard to get ahead. In my experience, they’re model/actor/musician/“You know I have feelings for you, right…but I’m struggling to pay my bills this month” 😎

I’ve not been to one of these events but I had always assumed that it would be a fairly expensive evening. The current entry fee seems modest to me. Given the drinks you might buy and the donations you might make to various guys entertaining you, I thought an evening would run at least $300. Not to argue that point…but if you’re right, surely that would increase the availability of fit young guys in LA who would want to supplement their incomes with extra work.

I’d be astounded if there are any reliable answers or tips on how to find guys there, especially for casual (and possibly Caucasian) visitors. The homophobia in Jamaica is extreme, and violence is not uncommon.

If you want something very specific, always ask for it upfront. I never got turned down for being direct and asking in advance. I’m sort of the reverse of you. I’m a selfish top and when I’m done pounding, I love to lie back and be sucked off by a hungry bottom. For me, there is nothing finer than a good cocksucker who makes me moan and groan as I climax. It’s great to unload in a warm mouth, and it’s hot to see my guy swallow. Best of all is when the guy nurses my cock to lick it clean and get every last drop. On any date, I always checked whether a guy would be compatible with me. And before a first date, I’d mention how I like to finish and be finished off. Some guys loved to serve and did it all; some were happy to suck to completion but not to swallow; and some guys said No to cum-in-mouth but wanted me to unload on their face and/or pecs A couple of times, when there was good chemistry with guys who’d originally refused, they chose to please me and did all that I like 😎

Sorry that happened to you. Assuming that you communicated in English, he may have assumed that you were a visitor from the US or Europe and travelling with US$. Certainly you’ve now learned how important it is to communicate your wishes and desires with precision. Perhaps if you’d asked “I do have Yen but do you prefer US$?’ You might have enjoyed a good date.

Interesting that a very negative review comes up once you check his profile (on the link above). I know of his other social media and had thought he was doing OK. Maybe times are getting tougher and/or social media doesn’t generate the income he needs?

I haven’t and after reading his ad, I wouldn’t. I feel his appeal is rather limited. He has a nice body but he says he doesn’t do “sexual things with men”. He also says he “can do” muscle worship and wrestling. So if you just like to look at, or worship (with Benjamin Franklin), a muscled body or be put in a headlock, he’s your man.

I blame Hallmark as all romance seems to feature a gratuity.

@samhexum the best answer @Danny7 I’m curious as to why you ask. You appear to be nicely put together so is there something you’re anxious about? I’m a grower, not a show-er, and I’m only a top. All of my boyfriends have been bottoms, or versatile and happy to bottom, yet quite a few have had penises larger than mine. So,size isn’t everything. And as I always made my boyfriends happy in bed, I’d say mine is perfect for me and what I like to do with it.

I wonder if you’ve mentioned this at your church. Sometimes there are young people in the congregation who need work and/or want to leave the family home but are without funds. I haven’t looked to hire someone this way, but I have been approached 2x by people asking me if I’m looking for staff. Generally, I very much agree with @Vegas_Millennial on this. It’s much better to employ several people for specific jobs and tasks. Consider how problematic if it might be if you employ someone who doesn’t work out as an employee and then you have to fire them…and of course, then change your locks and alarm codes, and where you store your valuables etc.

Your post is very well-written @Charlie The only aspect not mentioned is the cost of quality healthcare as we age. In general terms, such healthcare is widely available in Europe at no or little cost.

I still recall that, some years ago, I was rejected by a handsome young man I’d taken to dinner in a good restaurant. We both were dressed well and we had a good time with interesting conversation that flowed easily. He was polite but in not wanting to come home and stay overnight with me, he said “You’re not fat! Daddies should be fat!”

I like what you wrote @arnie For me, this is one of the reasons why life in Europe is more pleasant and civilised. Tax by law is included in prices. Service (or gratuity) in restaurants is almost always included at a set percentage in different countries. I only tip in cash for truly exceptional service (or in my favourite restaurants where I eat on a daily basis and they often send me ‘treats’ like an extra course, free dessert or a glass of wine)

I’d worry that it might encourage him to show up in search of “bigger bucks” I guess you’d have to be ready to say out loud: “No, I made a date with your son - He’s in his mid-20s - I’m not dating his middle-aged Dad” 😎

Dear Lord, this thread deserves some sort of award. When did setting up a date become so complicated? Some of the replies here have been worthy, some not so much. And some responses are so lengthy - rather like lawyers’ letters - that their paragraphs deserve to be numbered 😎

I understood you both ways @Luv2play even if the second time was a bit messier. I’m quite happy being just a top. I have to be really aroused by, and keen on, a hot guy before I suck cock. Yet I’ve had various guys tell me I’m very good at it. I think it’s because I’ve always paid very close attention to what guys do, their techniques and pacing, when they suck me off. If a guy tells me he doesn’t like the taste of cum, I don’t get as much pleasure from being sucked off as I hate having to think about pulling out before climax. The key to my heart really is won by a guy fellating me to completion. As much as I love erupting in a warm mouth and a guy swallowing my load, I also love the guy continuing to play with my cock and balls after climax. Bonus points go to the man who licks my cock clean and lovingly takes every last drop.

I don’t know the man…but reading his succinct and polite replies above, rebutting some of the earlier comments, I find him impressive.

I’m not sure it’s a “quandary” or that things have got worse. I feel it’s always been difficult to set up dates Not wanting to waste anyone’s time, when I was interested in meeting a new guy…. I simply stated succinctly what I like to do and what I enjoy having done to me. And then I’d ask Will we be compatible? On agreement, I had the excitement of getting ready for a first date.

Thank you for your observations @coriolis888. My friend’s Will was properly drawn up 40 years ago but not updated since. And I’m advised by 2 law firms (our very expensive family lawyers and a second specialist firm dealing with contested estates) and a Counsel who is an acknowledged expert in this area. Of course, the law advances along with societal changes. What is now advised by my family lawyers is a long, signed and witnessed statement (kept with but separate from my Will) detailing why various relatives and friends are NOT included in the Will. As a second ‘safety measure’, various close relations/friends and regularly-supported charities are given nominal bequests of $1000 and $5000 to demonstrate that they were considered but deemed worthy of a relatively small sum only. All this is now recommended to defeat speculative claims. Without going too far off-topic, what has shocked me the most is how that old maxim “Possession is nine-tenths of the Law’ can be exploited ruthlessly by distant cousins (seizing assets, selling valuables, occupying property etc) when they had no lawful title. And to answer your last point: No, when rival claimants contest a Will, the estate assets may not be used in the first instance. (Perhaps it’s different in your jurisdiction? This involves assets held in the US and UK). It’s stressful but I can afford to pay all the bills. What I appreciated from the specialist firm and the expert Counsel is that both were pragmatic and said straightaway ’this is going to cost you $1million to defend, and if you lose $2million. Are you happy to spend that much?’ It has brought home to me how important it is that all gay couples should get married or have a legal partnership. It may be the only way to protect each other in the event of one partner’s death.

No, absolutely not. I’d just ask the guy in advance about any dietary constraints (vegan, gluten-free etc) You might check your plans with the guy first. I always preferred to get physical before eating, and so work up an appetite (and I had bottoms thank me for being considerate).

I’m shocked…shocked at all the cynicism displayed here. If his pics are accurate, he's a great looking young man. So he hates time-wasters? I do too. For that physique, the rate seems reasonable. All I’d want to know (if I were single and looking) is what does he do, and what does he allow to be done to him 😜

I’ve known this to happen a few times. For me, it occurred with two working guys and, as @DrownedBoy observed, it happened (also twice) in relationships. One guy was a Slovak muscleboy. We were very compatible for several years. He liked fit older men and he preferred to bottom (I’m a top only) and enjoyed a good pounding. Also, as he put it, he ”loved to suck cock and swallow’ (after topping, I like to lie back and unload in a warm mouth). It was intense and very physical. But he was good company too so I took him on several longhaul vacations and I learned a great deal about him. I knew he could be difficult - he liked being treated as a ‘princess’ (his term) and being paid for, but I was happy to pay for everything - and I knew that he really had no close friends. Or to be precise, he had friends but he argued with each in turn and broke up with them. There was a point when he had no friends and we were discussing our next overseas trip. He suddenly said Yes but demanded a multiple of what I’d paid previously. When I queried this, he lost his temper. He raged about how much work it was for him. I tried to placate him by calmly saying ‘I’ll just take it as No, you don’t want to come to (luxury resort for Winter sun)…’ This seemed to enrage him more, and he let loose with a string of insults. I terminated our talk but he didn’t apologize the next day so that was it. Another guy was an Italian muscleboy. He was handsome with the best physique (pecs, 8pack) and he was very discreet about being an eager bottom. He prized being ‘masculine’ and in great shape. He made all the running in our relationship: giving me gifts, saying ‘I love you’ and telling me he wanted me to be his boyfriend. We had an intense first year. I liked to work up an appetite by topping him before dinner, and we’d repeat after dinner, and on waking he’d fellate me to completion before breakfast. He had keys to my place and slept over 4-5 nights a week. Towards the end of the first year, during a relaxed and pleasant evening, I commented he hadn’t sucked me off in the last two mornings. He said it was natural for sex to decline in a relationship so I “shouldn’t expect to make love 3x a night, once a night was good”. Well, it unravelled messily over the next 10 months. It turned out that despite his looks, he’d never had a boyfriend before (red flag?) and without telling me, he had anonymous sex (I later learned his big secret - he had the psychological kink that he enjoyed being humiliated and used by fat strangers or a group)

To get back to the OP’s question… I feel there may well be a drop in demand for all personal services. But older men are more likely to be well-established financially and therefore prove to be reliable clients. Older men may, like me, be of a certain age and more concerned to spend more of their income while they still can. Enjoying life and all its myriad pleasures is my main goal.