Kody S

I’m my experience, so much of what “happens” is a matter of the chemistry between masseur and client which can change from day to day and client to client.  I always ask what is included in the rate and don’t expect any thing else. I especially think that it’s important to respect the masseur’s dignity and boundaries.  For the client they are the only masseur they are seeing that day.  For the masseur they may have several of clients, which is hard work and they may not be able to give the same energy to all clients. All of the really good masseurs I have been too want to be respected for being a good masseur not something else.  I know this because i have talked to many (not all) about how they feel and what they hope to get out of the session. It’s instructive to hear their side of this discussion.  Thankful for masseurs on this site who do just that. 

I would also ad Pasha to the list.  I’ve seen him several times (including last week) and the massage is second to none. Upper East side and a bit pricey at $230 for 90min but you get everything in the 90min and he never shorts on time. 
https://rentmasseur.com/PashaNYC
 

This is an interesting topic.  I was once told at.fairly good spa that the minimum tip for a 90Min massage was $30. The massage was just under $100. It was weird because while tipping is part of our culture I work often in cultures where tipping is either considered rude or is not expected.  At any rate, it’s appropriate to tip at a spa because—as many have said—- the provider only gets a fraction of the fee. But when one is going to a private residence or facility for an already expensive massage, tip should be for something special I think. I never mind tipping generously for each ellent service.  But when the massage is “meh” and nothing stands out and the price is already high, then maybe that is different. Still it’s good to give something in recognition of effort unless it ia just horrible or the provider cheats you substantially on time. For me that is a variation of 15 min or more. 

I would also ad Pasha to the list.  I’ve seen him several times (including last week) and the massage is second to none. Upper East side and a bit pricey at $230 for 90min but you get everything in the 90min and he never shorts on time. 
https://rentmasseur.com/PashaNYC
 

I would also ad Pasha to the list.  I’ve seen him several times (including last week) and the massage is second to none. Upper East side and a bit pricey at $230 for 90min but you get everything in the 90min and he never shorts on time. 
https://rentmasseur.com/PashaNYC
 

Strictly therapeutic (with me) but the very best training… Chris.
https://rentmasseur.com/SportsMassageNYC
 
Alas he’s taking some time off. 

Omg is this place for real?!? How are they even in business. New owners? 

Welcome to the forum Marco  😊 

I've been a long time client.  Terrific masseur and a super sexy guy.  

Saw him this week in SF and had a great experience. Knows what he’s doing, is very warm and friendly, and has an amazing body. 

Yes I have had experience with him but it was pre-covid when he was traveling through. Both times were good experiences.  When I saw him, he looked like his pictures. Was muscular, a very nice guy, and received his clients in a very high end hotel.  I didn’t know what happened to him until I saw this thread.  PM me if you want more details. 

This has always been a favorite from Chaosmen.  Glenn and Vander

I’m amazed at how long some clients take to shower. If a client books an hour with me then they get the full hour on the table but I kind of expect they won’t spend half hour in the shower…
I prefer them to shower before we start (it means I’ll be more inclined to go places that are interesting if it’s all nice and fresh 😉) and I offer a shower afterwards because they’re covered in oil and cum of course ha ha. Many are visiting during work or before a night out in the west end so I understand it’s important to look ok on leaving me. But ugh those that take ages are just irritating. It’s mainly female clients that take time. I don’t see many female clients but when they book I always add time to the session because firstly they take time to get going (if you’ve massaged females you’ll know..) and because of the shower time issue. They’re in there for ages!
On the timing being short, I think it’s always important to make the massage last the full time booked. Only if the client wants to finish early would I stop before time. I remember one guy I saw booked an hour, but once he was on the table it was clear he was too horny for a slow build up. After a few minutes he had my cock in his mouth so I just let things develop as he seemed to be keen. After half hour of hardly any massage he cums and then almost immediately he asks to get showered. I suggested we finish the massage with some head massage (always very relaxing after a climax) but he was happy and good to go. He paid full price plus a tip and was in and out of my studio in 40 minutes, and that was only because I managed to keep him on the edge for a while. I think he’d have been half hour or less otherwise. The ideal client 😂. 

This guy was a terrible provider and should be avoided. Looks like most of you have. 

Saw him recently. Way over priced and with  little to no skills.  Nice body and nice enough guy, though but wasn’t all that into it.  

This is an interesting topic.  I was once told at.fairly good spa that the minimum tip for a 90Min massage was $30. The massage was just under $100. It was weird because while tipping is part of our culture I work often in cultures where tipping is either considered rude or is not expected.  At any rate, it’s appropriate to tip at a spa because—as many have said—- the provider only gets a fraction of the fee. But when one is going to a private residence or facility for an already expensive massage, tip should be for something special I think. I never mind tipping generously for each ellent service.  But when the massage is “meh” and nothing stands out and the price is already high, then maybe that is different. Still it’s good to give something in recognition of effort unless it ia just horrible or the provider cheats you substantially on time. For me that is a variation of 15 min or more. 

At a spa, I typically tip $10-40 depending on the length of the massage, how good it was, if the masseur tried to negotiate a tip or upsell during the massage, etc. 
At a masseur’s house or studio (I don’t do outcalls), I’d tip based on all of those factors as well as how much the initial fee is. The most I’ve tipped on a massage was for a superb 90 minute massage with plenty of extras that pushed the session well past two hours, but even with a 50% tip I didn’t pay more than $250 total.

As has been said before, a private masseur is pocketing all of the fees for incall sessions. Sure, there are some overhead charges, but nothing that would require them to use even half of their fees on a single session to cover. 

If I am going directly to a providers house, I do not tip because they are keeping 100% of the profit. For me they are clearing a decent rate per hour and lotion or oil is not that expensive. 
 
If I am at a spa I would tip 20% but that is because I know they do not get all of the money and they are paying for that space. 
 

I wouldn't necessarily believe that tipping is considered insulting. I think people are ready to believe that because it gives them an excuse not to tip. It is certainly true that in some European countries tipping is not expected, but if you tipped a server in a restaurant I doubt whether they would throw the money in your face.
 In this country, it is said that it is insulting to offer a tip to a professional.  I am a highly-educated, highly-skilled professional with decades of experience and I certainly didn't mind my young client paying me an extra 50.00 just for the hell of it.   Having said that, I can't really imagine offering my doctor a tip.

I've seen this same apartment in the background of other masseur ads.

Something is a little off about a guy who markets his apartment more than the massage.

I had a massage or two by him decades ago too, and I don't recall him being condescending, but I was also a different person back then, and might have accepted certain attitudes more then than I would now.

That said, I used to see him biking around the city over the past few years, and I he's turned into one of those weird older men with a decidedly in-your-face dressing style that turned me off from wanting to see him undressed ever again.

This guy was a terrible provider and should be avoided. Looks like most of you have. 

In my view we have all reached a point where we really don’t need any kind of condescending moments or body shaming when we pay increasingly high prices to just relax and escape the stress we already have.  We all have our quirks but I don’t want to pay for any more of them than I have to. Haha.

I wonder how many of us on the board have shared a provider. It's like sex degrees of separation...oops, I mean six!