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This is largely inaccurate. Plenty of providers work only through social media, instagram, word of mouth etc. and they often are asking for much higher rates than the guys on RM. You sound bitter you can't afford higher rates. 

This is largely inaccurate. Plenty of providers work only through social media, instagram, word of mouth etc. and they often are asking for much higher rates than the guys on RM. You sound bitter you can't afford higher rates. 

Meaning is he open to bare lol 

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

Could make this more fun by mentioning who we have spent $1k on...😅😋
Most of the boys I've met via Instagram etc. are asking $1-3k a "date" /meeting/ load as the going standard

The VIP bar upstairs now has a TV showing the main stage from the Ft. Lauderdale club. It's right next to the TV that shows the main stage that's downstairs in the Tampa club.
I hadn't noticed the new screen showing the Ft. Lauderdale club until another customer pointed to it and said, "Look, that guy sitting in front of the stage is on his phone looking at Grindr." Sure enough, the camera angle showed at least 2 customers scrolling through Grindr on their phones. 

Business skills are sexy. 

Dude I would NEVER. I encouraged him to rewrite which he started to do then blocked him when he needed too much advice. 

Had a bad experience and wouldn’t recommend him. 

Have followed him on Instagram for a few years. Definitely gay, almost definitely a bottom, recently moved out from living with a boyfriend/sugardaddy after finishing up school in Texas and some travels around meeting other generous daddies and gents.
 
He seems to have a tension between discretion, shyness, his background, and his athlete image VS eagerness for attention, being gay and out, showing off that beautiful butt, adapting to Los Angeles, what to do in addition to his athletic career and being presumably on a visa. 
 
Honestly I assumed he was sugaring or escorting since a few years ago when he was in Palm Beach and Miami but couldn’t say for sure, maybe too demure or fussy about it unless he really likes you but he does seem to naturally prefer successful “bears“ … his Grindr profile in WeHo indicates he likes massage and bears too, so maybe that’s truly authentic to his preferences. He has a subscription option on IG (mostly showing off that beautiful butt) and responds to DMs with varying engagement. I suppose he’s, of course, following a predictable trajectory now for someone who looks like, is built like, he is. Hopefully it is favorable and fortuitous for him. 

Have followed him on Instagram for a few years. Definitely gay, almost definitely a bottom, recently moved out from living with a boyfriend/sugardaddy after finishing up school in Texas and some travels around meeting other generous daddies and gents.
 
He seems to have a tension between discretion, shyness, his background, and his athlete image VS eagerness for attention, being gay and out, showing off that beautiful butt, adapting to Los Angeles, what to do in addition to his athletic career and being presumably on a visa. 
 
Honestly I assumed he was sugaring or escorting since a few years ago when he was in Palm Beach and Miami but couldn’t say for sure, maybe too demure or fussy about it unless he really likes you but he does seem to naturally prefer successful “bears“ … his Grindr profile in WeHo indicates he likes massage and bears too, so maybe that’s truly authentic to his preferences. He has a subscription option on IG (mostly showing off that beautiful butt) and responds to DMs with varying engagement. I suppose he’s, of course, following a predictable trajectory now for someone who looks like, is built like, he is. Hopefully it is favorable and fortuitous for him. 

Greed or lack of good judgement! 
His new $800 rate will chase off a good portion of clients he would have met had his rate not doubled as it did. 

I don't mean to be argumentative, however, the above post does not reflect reality.
The poster reminds us that we are in a big recession then goes off to offer an unrealistic alternative of going to a sex club and/or using free hook-up apps.   He further says that the provider sets his rate and that clients must accept those rates.  Again, not realistic.  
If a provider asks for too much money, most clients skip over and find a different provider.  
If too many providers ask too high a rate, and continuously gets turned down for the high rates, provider rates will come down. 
It goes both ways.  The recession hits the client and also hits the provider. 
It is just a matter of time before providers realize that their rates are out of line with reality.     
 

$400 is too much... For you. 
And that's fine. 
But don't speak for the entire industry, especially the working guys who can and do charge that rate without any push back. 

Look at escorts the same way you look at a night out of entertainment, whether that's a movie or a nice meal. There are going to be cheap options and there are going to be expensive options, but you don't get to go to a restaurant and complain to them that they're charging too much for their meals. You know what you can do? Move on and find a different restaurant or form of entertainment. 
A few too many men create stress and drama for themselves over issues they can actually do something about, which is to just move on instead of complain about escorts valuing their time and services at a specific rate.

We’re in a recession & in expensive living times….. if you dont wanna pay the rate, there is plenty of other options or there is always the hookup apps where you can find it for free or go to a sex club
 
Seriously, every provider has a set rate & client has to respect that, if you dont like it do what I mentioned above, its that simple
 

I wholeheartedly agree. 400 is over the top, it's not like buttholes are scarce. What providers have to understand too is that, just as inflation is affecting their daily living, it's also hitting us, clients, hard, too. Which would you rather, 300 or none at all? Instead of demanding more, you could have more clients at 300. Yeah, I know, hosting, prepping for the meeting. But, if you stay a week in a city at an AirBnB and average 3 clients a day that's 4,500 per week at 300. On top of the benefit of building your reputation, it's a win-win for the provider.
Many of us are not rich like Mr. Thiel who can make you a sugar baby. We work long 9 to 5 jobs and have expenses, too. There is a provider who quoted me 400, I was more than ready to pay 300. But immediately moved on; it's a good thing I did. I went to my local bathhouse and got the same release just for the entrance price of $30 and was able to blow a couple of loads. The guy was sexy af, height was 6' 5', built, with a bubble butt to die for. Made me put things into perspective that I really going to blow 400 just because I wanted to scratch an itch.
Yes, I have paid 400 and even 800 in the past and regretted it. 400 was limp, no penetration, no kissing, just body contact, and my review rightfully put them out of business. 800, paid for the air ticket and service and although we did everything agreed, it felt rushed and used my toilet to douche.
So, why is this happening? Many factors which include the rise of OF, many have left the business for that, making quality providers more in demand. The pandemic I also believe hit the business hard and a lot left the industry. With so many tech companies laying off those rich tech workers, that money that used to come from tech-rich coastal cities is not there anymore. Rents have shot up also in these major metro too and just the expense of traveling I understand. These circumstances drive providers to push up their prices. But it's a catch-22, because what it ultimately means is a lot of us are less willing to pay. I see it just in my own savings.
I am planning to visit NY this summer and I have to admit, if I get quoted the 400 or more, I will just continue to pass. I've not been with a provider since November. I've supplemented this with my right hand and local bate club. Yesterday was my first time back at the local bathhouse since 2019 and surprisingly wasn't too bad. I plan to make it a regular visit every few months.

This is why there is Bloomingdales and Wal Mart. Look in the windows at bloomies then go be happy with your discounts at Walmart. 

If you're a lawyer or a Doctor, I'm sure $400 is not a problem.  But for average Joes, this is simply highway robbery!!  There has to be a line of demarcation when enough is enough, and I say that is $300.  I get the old supply and demand side of economics, but there must be common sense.  It's just buggery, not creating new art or writing a play.  My solution (tongue and cheek, so to speak) is that customers form a union and demand LOWER fees, or we go on strike!

But seriously, guys, $300 is more than enough.

This is largely inaccurate. Plenty of providers work only through social media, instagram, word of mouth etc. and they often are asking for much higher rates than the guys on RM. You sound bitter you can't afford higher rates. 

This is largely inaccurate. Plenty of providers work only through social media, instagram, word of mouth etc. and they often are asking for much higher rates than the guys on RM. You sound bitter you can't afford higher rates.