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If you ask me, Davey Wavey is the most girly of the three. It is interesting that the bottom comes off as the most masculine. Ah, life.

His demeanor totally impressed me. He sounds grounded and real, the type of guy I would enjoy spending time with.

His demeanor totally impressed me. He sounds grounded and real, the type of guy I would enjoy spending time with.

Look at his IG account. If that is "old" we all need to kill ourselves! Lol

Lol. Some of you are showing your age. This guy looks like your typical big-city IT professional. Or graphic artist. Or gluten-free waiter. I like the just got out of bed look as long as he doesn't smell like patchouli or stale cum.
 
His ad is basically Craigslist, except it wasn't free. Missed opportunity to not say something enticing about yourself. It could be fun to find out what exactly he does for $140. Or it could be a disaster. If he doesn't smell like the above mentioned or have dried McDonalds in his beard, he could oil us up naked and do a body frot session on the bed. That could work.

Sure do love Derek's face.

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All I can say is wow. This board doesn't have a rating for that.

This story has a happy ending. My friend changed. He matured. Stopped partying. Much less hookups. He took responsibility for his health. Got a great hiv doc and became a bodybuilder, but not to the extreme. His physical appearance completely changed. Amidst the change, he met a great bear type guy and fell in love. They got married. Two homes and a few pets. They seem to be living happy, productive lives.
 
If he could go back in time and fix the hiv thing, I'm sure he would do it. Sex and your body are not the same once you start taking prescription medications. Taking these meds for many years can make the aging process more challenging. No free rides.

This story has a happy ending. My friend changed. He matured. Stopped partying. Much less hookups. He took responsibility for his health. Got a great hiv doc and became a bodybuilder, but not to the extreme. His physical appearance completely changed. Amidst the change, he met a great bear type guy and fell in love. They got married. Two homes and a few pets. They seem to be living happy, productive lives.
 
If he could go back in time and fix the hiv thing, I'm sure he would do it. Sex and your body are not the same once you start taking prescription medications. Taking these meds for many years can make the aging process more challenging. No free rides.

This story has a happy ending. My friend changed. He matured. Stopped partying. Much less hookups. He took responsibility for his health. Got a great hiv doc and became a bodybuilder, but not to the extreme. His physical appearance completely changed. Amidst the change, he met a great bear type guy and fell in love. They got married. Two homes and a few pets. They seem to be living happy, productive lives.
 
If he could go back in time and fix the hiv thing, I'm sure he would do it. Sex and your body are not the same once you start taking prescription medications. Taking these meds for many years can make the aging process more challenging. No free rides.

This story has a happy ending. My friend changed. He matured. Stopped partying. Much less hookups. He took responsibility for his health. Got a great hiv doc and became a bodybuilder, but not to the extreme. His physical appearance completely changed. Amidst the change, he met a great bear type guy and fell in love. They got married. Two homes and a few pets. They seem to be living happy, productive lives.
 
If he could go back in time and fix the hiv thing, I'm sure he would do it. Sex and your body are not the same once you start taking prescription medications. Taking these meds for many years can make the aging process more challenging. No free rides.

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All I can say is wow. This board doesn't have a rating for that.

I think dark skin is not much different than red hair, uncut cock, or cigarette breath. If you're not sexually attracted to certain details, I don't think that automatically dumps you into an -ism category. People are way too quick to scream racism today. Serious ignorance on display.
 
On the other hand, Cleveland has it's share of racists. Their police department is pretty infamous.
 
I, too, wish guys could be more upfront about their turn-ons. However, the minute you express your likes, someone will get butt-hurt for being excluded. You can't win. I think it's smarter for business to at least make the appearance of being open to all. Deal with individual let downs privately.

I would consider it a red flag, too, although, I have used similar words when communicating with a massage therapist. In the massage realm, it is fairly common to lose a regular favorite and want to replace him. I no longer mention that.
 

I hope you notice the horny customer who is jerking your chain long before two years passes. :-) Dealing with a horny customer who may have no intention of meeting is a downside to the business. However, horny men are capable of unpredictable behavior. You can never know when intentions change on a dime.

Way out of line? Where on the line is that? And whose line is it? From what I hear from fellow customers, I don't think "way out of line" is true. I agree no one should "expect" anything other than some form of massage. However, the reality is many of us get more than we expected, much more, depending, and most of us are pleased with that, whether it cost extra or not.
 

Is there a general, universal understanding? I don't think there is. Looks and chemistry (and a whole lot of other details) play a huge role in these matters, and there is nothing general or universal about that. Sensual massage is subject to interpretation and mood, mostly that of the MT. Some visits are more rewarding than others, even with the same guy. Human beings are providing the service, and many of them can be complicated on any given day. So, again no, I don't think there is a general, universal understanding of how this is supposed to work.

I can assure you, the sense you get on this subject on a public forum may only be half the story for obvious reasons. Additional sense can be found in private messages, if you can find a member who trusts you and is willing to share details. Even with all that, there's no rule book, no guide book, and certainly no guarantees. The provider sets his limits with each customer (they won't be universal), and we customers pay their price. It's best to view their ads as the minimal amount of information available. If you want to know more or ask more, contact the provider. Let him know what you are looking for. Ask him if you can share your fantasy massage with him, and see what he thinks. You'll have a much better time if you don't over think things and keep expectations low.

That's a bit unrealistic, given that what many of these guys do in the name of massage is illegal. The best you can do is be critical of their business practices here and hope that some of these guys read it and consider your advice.
 
There has always been a hustle aspect associated with sex services for money. Many sex workers see their work as a legit opportunity to upsell, no different than a rental car agent selling extras. The more product you sell, the more you can charge. It's about making money. Some guys wish to conduct their business this way, while others prefer not.
 
There is a lot of choice out there. I prefer the non-hustle types, but if a certain look appeals to you, the temptation to book a hustle can take a pinch out of your wallet. I think Omar is hot, and if he wants to suck my cock during the massage, I'm afraid I might be willing to pay extra for that, even if I didn't know about it in advance. It's not like he is allowed to advertise that. A hot man nibbling at my ear during a massage and asking to provide oral @ $25 extra can have a strange and intoxicating power over me. You just have to be sure to bring extra cash.

That's a bit unrealistic, given that what many of these guys do in the name of massage is illegal. The best you can do is be critical of their business practices here and hope that some of these guys read it and consider your advice.
 
There has always been a hustle aspect associated with sex services for money. Many sex workers see their work as a legit opportunity to upsell, no different than a rental car agent selling extras. The more product you sell, the more you can charge. It's about making money. Some guys wish to conduct their business this way, while others prefer not.
 
There is a lot of choice out there. I prefer the non-hustle types, but if a certain look appeals to you, the temptation to book a hustle can take a pinch out of your wallet. I think Omar is hot, and if he wants to suck my cock during the massage, I'm afraid I might be willing to pay extra for that, even if I didn't know about it in advance. It's not like he is allowed to advertise that. A hot man nibbling at my ear during a massage and asking to provide oral @ $25 extra can have a strange and intoxicating power over me. You just have to be sure to bring extra cash.

Way out of line? Where on the line is that? And whose line is it? From what I hear from fellow customers, I don't think "way out of line" is true. I agree no one should "expect" anything other than some form of massage. However, the reality is many of us get more than we expected, much more, depending, and most of us are pleased with that, whether it cost extra or not.
 

Is there a general, universal understanding? I don't think there is. Looks and chemistry (and a whole lot of other details) play a huge role in these matters, and there is nothing general or universal about that. Sensual massage is subject to interpretation and mood, mostly that of the MT. Some visits are more rewarding than others, even with the same guy. Human beings are providing the service, and many of them can be complicated on any given day. So, again no, I don't think there is a general, universal understanding of how this is supposed to work.

I can assure you, the sense you get on this subject on a public forum may only be half the story for obvious reasons. Additional sense can be found in private messages, if you can find a member who trusts you and is willing to share details. Even with all that, there's no rule book, no guide book, and certainly no guarantees. The provider sets his limits with each customer (they won't be universal), and we customers pay their price. It's best to view their ads as the minimal amount of information available. If you want to know more or ask more, contact the provider. Let him know what you are looking for. Ask him if you can share your fantasy massage with him, and see what he thinks. You'll have a much better time if you don't over think things and keep expectations low.

Way out of line? Where on the line is that? And whose line is it? From what I hear from fellow customers, I don't think "way out of line" is true. I agree no one should "expect" anything other than some form of massage. However, the reality is many of us get more than we expected, much more, depending, and most of us are pleased with that, whether it cost extra or not.
 

Is there a general, universal understanding? I don't think there is. Looks and chemistry (and a whole lot of other details) play a huge role in these matters, and there is nothing general or universal about that. Sensual massage is subject to interpretation and mood, mostly that of the MT. Some visits are more rewarding than others, even with the same guy. Human beings are providing the service, and many of them can be complicated on any given day. So, again no, I don't think there is a general, universal understanding of how this is supposed to work.

Way out of line? Where on the line is that? And whose line is it? From what I hear from fellow customers, I don't think "way out of line" is true. I agree no one should "expect" anything other than some form of massage. However, the reality is many of us get more than we expected, much more, depending, and most of us are pleased with that, whether it cost extra or not.
 

Is there a general, universal understanding? I don't think there is. Looks and chemistry (and a whole lot of other details) play a huge role in these matters, and there is nothing general or universal about that. Sensual massage is subject to interpretation and mood, mostly that of the MT. Some visits are more rewarding than others, even with the same guy. Human beings are providing the service, and many of them can be complicated on any given day. So, again no, I don't think there is a general, universal understanding of how this is supposed to work.

I paid $28 for my front row center, balcony recliner, reserved seat. I didn't enjoy spending that much, but the only time I had available was a Saturday night. I'm a big fan of the series, so I wasn't looking to fault the film. Julian Fellowes tries to cram too many stories into 2 hours, but in the end it all comes together and it's fun. My sold out audience applauded when the credits rolled.

Allen Leech looked good. He seems to have lost weight for the movie. He was getting chunky. His various plots were fun to follow. His scene at the bench with the Princess Mary was brilliant.

I agree. It did not go the way I had imagined. In the end, Mr. Barrow almost felt instant love and separation anxiety. Robert James-Collier did a masterful job conveying intense feelings. Too bad there were no nude scenes. :-)

Yes you can compare the two. Smart, sensible customers care deeply about their privacy. I know I do. Escorts make a HUGE mistake assuming their privacy is more important than the customer's. I would put the two on equal footing. A customer who doesn't care about his privacy is probably thinking with the brain in his cock, not the one in his head. If that's the kind of customer you want, then be careful what you wish for.