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Inflation is high, in general, but not as high as many providers have made their rates - Think about the current inflation rate for ordinary goods and services- roughly 8% Think about the current provider inflation rate- (using rentmen as a guide) 25% to 50%. It is ridiculous.

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Thank you for the post. However, in the case of the poster who started this thread, there could be no logical reason for failure to at least mention the city the incident occurred. As most providers are met through rentmen, just a simple city name is not going to come back to haunt the OP. Repeating what I already said, this forum is to help each other through the exchange of information, good or bad. No one is helped by clapping with one hand, as did the OP.

I do not believe that there is a primary rule to protect yourself. If you happen to get together with a provider who has rotten motives and he wants to hurt you to get more money, all you can do is fight (defend) or try to get away from him or give in and pay more money. Finding the right way to separate yourself from the bad guy is usually not easy but it can be done. Most providers are good people trying to make some money. Every now and again, there is the person, like is described by the author of this thread, who is truly a bad person. I think that the author is doing the forum a disservice by not furnishing any information on the provider such as what city he resides or where he advertises.

One of the benefits of this forum is for members to share good and bad information while engaging a provider. In the case of the dangerous person you described, forum members should be warned about who the person is and where you found the person, such as rentmen et cetera. A simple link to that bad guy's advertisement would be beneficial to members.

where do you find the IG profile?

A leopard never changes its spots, however, they sometimes do a good job covering them up. As said by many, be cautious of this guy and it is best to avoid him.

"For a 2k deposit you can spend 5 minutes with him before he vanishes." He will disappear with your 2K deposit money unless you are faster than the five minutes it will take him to distract you. Below are a couple of rentmen reviews on this guy found in his rentmen ad: One review on rentmen" This guy’s photos are heavily edited. He does not have this muscle. He’s an average, 5’9 skinny/muscular at best. He has the body of a normal, average guy. He not only offers one thing to you, then another when you get there, but he charges double for all services, then doesn’t provide the service He stopped half way through the session for an “emergency”. I’ve found out from others that this is not the first time, & his common emergencies are frequent and never come with a refund. If you’re into the massage/muscle worship/online scene, this is an expensive trap. (Miami & New York) I don’t want anyone else to get scammed. Please, share this so that we don’t become victims. Our community is close. We need to help each other out, when it comes to stuff like this. I hope that I have helped at least one person. Stay away. You’ve been warned. POOR Total scam artist. Will come and try to sell you a bunch of bogus products. Claims he prefers multi-day meet-ups but sneaks out early if he finds an opportunity. Stay away if you don't want to waste your money. Time Spent: Overnight Ambience: Not Relaxing Are Photos Accurate? Photos are heavily edited Recommend? No, I don't think so Have you met EliteFitGlobal? We'd love you to share your experience with him. Submit A Review About EliteFitGlobal » Submit a Review IN SHORT, A CROOK TO AVOID

"the scene has evolved and the venues have shape-shifted. Why is this so puzzling?" I often travel to many different countries throughout the world. In Brazil, women do not go to gay men saunas. Once in a rare instance a female will enter a male sauna but they are quickly encouraged to leave. In Barcelona, Sauna Thermas has never had a female customer that I have seen or heard of visiting the sauna. In Zurich, Paragonya has never had a female customer that I have seen or hear of visiting the sauna. Yet, in Montreal, two formerly all gay night clubs (where one could choose between a "lap dance" or offer the provider to come to the clients' hotel or abode as a hustler) straight females have two and three days each week where they outnumber the gay male customers. Montreal has changed, without doubt. The part that is puzzling is HOW could straight women influence two major male gay clubs to have a "ladies night" and why would a "lady" be happy at a male gay facility?

Maybe the answer is somewhere in the above posts of other threads. However, I am puzzled why females (Ladies nights) would want to go to male gay facilities that make the bulk of its revenue from gay male customers. The size of the city of Montreal must have many "straight" bars and night clubs where women could find enjoyment. Why would a straight woman habitually go to a club that was established for the use of gay men? What am I missing, just curious?

It does not work that way. The sugar daddy does not perform if the provider does not provide.

No link to provider?

He has had his rentmen account for one year and four months. Yet, not one review during those sixteen months. Quite unusual to say the least. Does he get enjoyment from making appointments with potential clients then purposely not keeping the appointment?

If you are the big guy in town (rentmen overshadows all other similar type advertising platforms) you set the rules such as asking for I D and other nonsense items. If you are creative, you can figure out how to get around this silly new "requirement"

I hope you do not get ripped off by a provider despite your incorrectly thinking that my post was too negative.

You do not like the truth, do you? Over the years, how could you have missed the countless posts made by members of this forum and clients who hired escorts who ripped them off? Your selective reading might cause you to hire one of those negative providers one of these days if you continue to ignore or say that actual reports from countless providers are too negative. Be careful!

You must skip over a lot of posts made to this forum by clients complaining about providers. It appears that you also do not have access to a VPN where you could read the narratives clients post on rentmen about many clients scamming them. "very few escorts" - Please let me know when to stop laughing.

I think what's most telling/revealing in this thread is that posters neglected to state the main reasons they believe the rates for providers are too high: When all factors related to escorting are considered, those stating that the rates are too high, often have a legitimate reason for protesting higher rates. A good portion of providers are arrogant and often negatively refer to clients as time wasters even if the client has only two or three text questions. Another issue is that many providers insist on payment in advance on arrival or via an advance deposit. This is awkward for many clients. Many providers make appointments with clients (even when they get a deposit) then do not show up for the appointment. Many providers' advertisements have false photos depicting a totally different person in their bogus advertisement. Or, the provider uses photos that are photoshopped or are many years old. Often, providers contract for one or two hours. The provider wants to be paid up front but many providers stay only fifteen minutes or so yet keep the full amount taken at arrival or via deposit. I could make a larger list of negative things providers do but I made my point in showing that although the provider expects a higher rate ($400 - $500 or more), the services of many providers do not warrant the higher rate demanded by providers and many do not deserve even a smaller rate considering the terrible treatment of some clients. If providers are going to be successful in raising their rates and still maintain the shabby behavior they have well demonstrated, major changes are needed from most providers if higher rates are expected.

Edited above for reality

I should have written, "church-lady TYPES" Not correct about Harris instrumental about locking up owners of BackPage. Back to the subject of escort fees being unreasonable

Truer words could not be written. An increase in price does not increase the quality of the service provided.

How wrong can one be! Just because a provider raises his rate to $400 or $500 (or more) does not mean that the provider suddenly knows how to change his inconsiderate and greedy way of dealing with clients. A price increase does not make a product more valuable. You were lucky if you found an over-priced provider change his inconsiderate behavior to refrain from name calling clients ("time waister" clients), no shows, late arrivals, early departure. Lucky for you.

Craigslist and rentboy closures were a scam by misguided church ladies

They do? Most?

There are many things that I view as being over priced, but that does not mean that there is not a SMALL market for those items.