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And, countless other clients who use logic when hiring.

Just curious, what "leverage" does the $240 payment to rentmen give a client versus putting your privacy at risk for having your information on an escort site? You know, of course, even if you pay rentmen anonymously, your IP address still identifies you. Where is the "leverage"?

I would agree with your statement if you did not include the word "most". Contrary to your post, many of us can afford the currently scattered unrealistic escort rates. However, many of us have learned to respect value and, consequently, not hire overpriced providers. To me, there is a lack of logic for a financially able client to pay an unrealistic and inflated price for a small amount of entertainment from a provider. If some partake, all the best for them and the provider. Many of us became financially independent because we did not and do not throw our money away on overpriced items, including some escorts.

We are all different people with different values and beliefs. The fact that you are "willing" to pay an inflated price for an escort causes their prices to continually increase up and up and up. Although I can afford to pay higher prices, I believe there is value in just about everything in life, including escorts. To make it simple, if I go to the market and see a candy bar for sale and the candy bar is overpriced at $20.00, I will not buy it despite the fact that I can financially afford to buy the overpriced candy bar. If another customer in the market is foolish enough to encourage inflation and pay the asking price of $20.00 for the candy bar, more power to the other customer. The other person is unknowingly hurting the economy by paying inflated prices. On the other hand, I believe that most things in life have reasonable value. The provider asking $600.00 for one hour of his time is unrealistic and will not be included in my future hiring despite my ability to pay the ridiculously overpriced hourly rate.

Was the "provider" joking or just wishful thinking?

Paying $240 dollars per year to Rentmen merely to be able to write a review about an escort and to see some homemade video clips of the escort is overpriced. Most Rentmen clients know that if a review of an escort is not a five-star review, the reviews usually end up being deleted from an escort's account not long after the negative review gets posted. Thus, where is the actual benefit to a client for paying $240 dollars (annually) to Rentmen? Non-paying clients hire escorts from Rentmen. Now that reviews are not accepted from non-paying Rentmen clients, the Rentmen site is missing an unknown amount of critical information that would normally appear in reviews of Rentmen escorts. To have Rentmen reject reviews of escorts from non-paying members of Rentmen is short-sighted and is a disservice to Rentmen clients.

Precisely

Good analysis and analogy.

Go back to normal? What is normal? The period of time when streets were filled with hustlers has come and gone. What is there now (nothing) is the new "normal" as far as hustlers go. Selma Avenue and Santa Monica Boulevard were involved in an era that will not return. Time marches on!

He has been a member of RM for one and one-half years without even one review. He makes appointments with people but always ghosts them and never meets them. If he is really an Austrian model, why is his advertisement on RM in the Los Angeles section? Why does he call himself Socalmuscleboy? (Southern California muscle boy) if he is an Austrian model? Things do not compute!

Well, the above link with the "borrowed" photo explains the reason he never meets with anyone he schedules. It also explains the lack of any RM reviews over a seventeen-month period.

His rentmen ad has a strange message on it for potential clients which states: ⚠️❌ ABSOLUTELY NO ONGOING CONVERSATIONS, IF YOU HAVE CONTACTED ME BEFORE AND WASTED MY TIME OVER TEXT AND CONTINUE TO CONTACT ME YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND I WILL REPORT YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO MY CELL PHONE CARRIER AND TO THIS SITE FOR HARASSMENT.

Many rentmen users do not want to be "premium" members because the payments made to rentmen cause the payer to lose their anonymity. The payment amount is small. It is the fact of losing privacy that many clients will not be premium members with rentmen. To degrade non rentmen premium members is not logical.

Agree wholeheartedly for a number of reasons. Privacy is at risk to rentmen by being a premium member.

Do you want to make a bet on that given his prior history?

Inflation is high, in general, but not as high as many providers have made their rates - Think about the current inflation rate for ordinary goods and services- roughly 8% Think about the current provider inflation rate- (using rentmen as a guide) 25% to 50%. It is ridiculous.

or changed forum sites - EuroBadBoy | MEN4PORN MEN4PORN.COM

Thank you for the post. However, in the case of the poster who started this thread, there could be no logical reason for failure to at least mention the city the incident occurred. As most providers are met through rentmen, just a simple city name is not going to come back to haunt the OP. Repeating what I already said, this forum is to help each other through the exchange of information, good or bad. No one is helped by clapping with one hand, as did the OP.

I do not believe that there is a primary rule to protect yourself. If you happen to get together with a provider who has rotten motives and he wants to hurt you to get more money, all you can do is fight (defend) or try to get away from him or give in and pay more money. Finding the right way to separate yourself from the bad guy is usually not easy but it can be done. Most providers are good people trying to make some money. Every now and again, there is the person, like is described by the author of this thread, who is truly a bad person. I think that the author is doing the forum a disservice by not furnishing any information on the provider such as what city he resides or where he advertises.

One of the benefits of this forum is for members to share good and bad information while engaging a provider. In the case of the dangerous person you described, forum members should be warned about who the person is and where you found the person, such as rentmen et cetera. A simple link to that bad guy's advertisement would be beneficial to members.

where do you find the IG profile?

A leopard never changes its spots, however, they sometimes do a good job covering them up. As said by many, be cautious of this guy and it is best to avoid him.

"For a 2k deposit you can spend 5 minutes with him before he vanishes." He will disappear with your 2K deposit money unless you are faster than the five minutes it will take him to distract you. Below are a couple of rentmen reviews on this guy found in his rentmen ad: One review on rentmen" This guy’s photos are heavily edited. He does not have this muscle. He’s an average, 5’9 skinny/muscular at best. He has the body of a normal, average guy. He not only offers one thing to you, then another when you get there, but he charges double for all services, then doesn’t provide the service He stopped half way through the session for an “emergency”. I’ve found out from others that this is not the first time, & his common emergencies are frequent and never come with a refund. If you’re into the massage/muscle worship/online scene, this is an expensive trap. (Miami & New York) I don’t want anyone else to get scammed. Please, share this so that we don’t become victims. Our community is close. We need to help each other out, when it comes to stuff like this. I hope that I have helped at least one person. Stay away. You’ve been warned. POOR Total scam artist. Will come and try to sell you a bunch of bogus products. Claims he prefers multi-day meet-ups but sneaks out early if he finds an opportunity. Stay away if you don't want to waste your money. Time Spent: Overnight Ambience: Not Relaxing Are Photos Accurate? Photos are heavily edited Recommend? No, I don't think so Have you met EliteFitGlobal? We'd love you to share your experience with him. Submit A Review About EliteFitGlobal » Submit a Review IN SHORT, A CROOK TO AVOID

"the scene has evolved and the venues have shape-shifted. Why is this so puzzling?" I often travel to many different countries throughout the world. In Brazil, women do not go to gay men saunas. Once in a rare instance a female will enter a male sauna but they are quickly encouraged to leave. In Barcelona, Sauna Thermas has never had a female customer that I have seen or heard of visiting the sauna. In Zurich, Paragonya has never had a female customer that I have seen or hear of visiting the sauna. Yet, in Montreal, two formerly all gay night clubs (where one could choose between a "lap dance" or offer the provider to come to the clients' hotel or abode as a hustler) straight females have two and three days each week where they outnumber the gay male customers. Montreal has changed, without doubt. The part that is puzzling is HOW could straight women influence two major male gay clubs to have a "ladies night" and why would a "lady" be happy at a male gay facility?

Maybe the answer is somewhere in the above posts of other threads. However, I am puzzled why females (Ladies nights) would want to go to male gay facilities that make the bulk of its revenue from gay male customers. The size of the city of Montreal must have many "straight" bars and night clubs where women could find enjoyment. Why would a straight woman habitually go to a club that was established for the use of gay men? What am I missing, just curious?