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I cannot imagine what "legal backside" the owner is trying to protect. Prostitution has been legal in Switzerland since 1942. What difference would it make if there were hustlers at Paragonya?

What if the guy arrives at your place which might happen to be a chain hotel where you have "status" as a long time frequent guest. If there is a scene and you have to call security, it could put your status at risk depending on the circumstances and what the escort says or does in defending his behavior. In addition, the related embarrassment would be difficult. It is a delicate situation.

I found Warsaw interesting for venues but not for massage or hiring, etc. The most famous venue you will see in Warsaw (in my opinion) is the container on the wall of the Holy Cross Church that contains the heart of Frederic Chopin. Even though Chopin's body is buried in Paris, he personally wanted his heart to be taken to his birth country where his heart has been for several decades after he died.

It is nice to think about what we would say if an escort reneged on our agreement prior to rendering service. However, on this forum, many of us visit foreign countries where escorts do not speak English. They have learned to say (mimic) many short sentences like asking for money in advance, what they will do et cetera. Consequently, it is not simple to have a conversation discussing, for example, why was the advance payment not asked for at the time of the agreed meeting. Or, any other change in an agreement the escort attempted to create just prior to rendering services. Escorts that insist on payment in advance (or make changes prior to the beginning of agreed on services) are often strong athletic type guys that could cause physical harm to a client if an argument came up about fees, payments or when payments should be made or any other one-sided change the escort wanted. It is easy for us to write what we would do but when you are attempting to talk with an escort that does not speak fluent English (they learned simple sentences, like how to insist on payment in advance, etc) it is often useless to attempt to get the escort to understand anything else brought into the conversation.

How did the demand end, with an agreement or a physical fight or threat? Peacefully?

If you are in his residence or his indoor place of meeting and you refuse to pay in advance after he insists on prepayment, how do you exit without a physical confrontation or even a fight? If he comes to your place and insists on prepayment, how do you get him to exit without a fight or argument? Either way, if you go to his facility, or he comes to your place, how can you get out of the situation if the escorts insists on prepayment of services? Seems like a potentially dangerous situation when you have an aggressive escort insisting on prepayment and your decision to cancel the meeting while the escort came to your place or you went to the facility of the escort. I can see a fight or, at a minimum, a hostile situation that might not end well. At a minimum, starting off a sex meeting with an argument must surely detract (or worse) from the anticipated pleasurable expectation, prior to the demand for prepayment.

There is no "maybe" about it. You were lucky if you "have been hiring for about 10 years" without being scammed by a provider.

Can we trust rentmen reviews? Tough question - I personally know that rentmen will remove a bad review merely because a provider gives a good excuse for contradicting the bad review. There have been several ads that I felt were interesting and worthy of my hiring. Most of those ads had many five star reviews and several one star reviews, which caused me to ignore the ad and not contact the provider. Over time (a few months), while going through the ads on rentmen, I noticed that the same guys that I once would have liked to hire but did not because of the bad, one star reviews, had numerous five star reviews and the one star reviews had disappeared. Needless to say, I now give almost no credibility to rentmen reviews.

No doubt about it, you have been lucky in your hiring. Considering all your good luck, I think you might want to consider how many of us have had bad experiences with hiring, and be a bit more cautious in future hiring. Although most hires are good people, there are some bad ones out there just waiting for an opportunity to take advantage of someone who shows such good hospitality to them.

I just got off the phone with one of the bartenders at Paragonya. (+41 44 252 66 66) The bartender assured me that the sauna rules about paid hustlers has not changed. He further said that "everything is as it has been for more than twenty-five years. The bartender said that he has worked there more than fifteen years and that the sauna has been an "escort" sauna for as long as he recalls. Maybe some bad rumor got floating around the sauna that caused the negative report. Cute joke.

Is it a joke about the sauna forbidding hustlers? I plan a trip to Germany next month and Zurich is only a short drive to where I will be staying in Germany. I hope to visit Paragonay while in Zurich. I ask this because you jokingly said in your post "I flew my G650 over to check my numbered bank accounts and gold Bullion," Many people do not know that Swiss numbered bank accounts were disclosed to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service twenty years go and numbered bank accounts no longer have secrecy like they had before the laws were changed. I view your comment as a joke. However, I could be wrong. I will call the sauna tomorrow and report back on any news. .

No one knows the true answer except for the person you took on a vacation. One side of us wants to think there is a friendship going while things are pleasant with a companion we take on a vacation trip. It is possible that there is a friendship. But, not likely if there is a major age difference. If the companion is charging you for his time and is pleasant while you two are together, it just means that he is doing a good job at what he is suppose to do. I have been in similar situations, taking guys on airplanes with me to foreign destinations, having a wonderful time. While we were in the foreign country together getting along great, one would think we were good friends. However, after the trip was over, the "companion" was paid his hefty agreed upon fee and went on his way after we returned to our place of departure. Sometimes I heard from the escort and sometimes I did not. I eventually learned to expect a ghosting after such a trip. Looking at both sides, it is possible that a friendship developed during your vacation together, but, it is also possible that the companion was merely a paid companion, and nothing more. Tough to answer.

The first part of your post is easy to understand and answer - what payment? - Cash - local currency and occasionally (very seldom) U.S. dollars or British pounds or Euros- However, most transactions are in local currency. I am not sure what you mean when you wrote "any apps" If you mean paying escorts with an app money transfer from another country, when they do not know you, is likely going to be refused.

Are you certain that you were told or read that the sauna tells clients to leave valuables at the front desk? If so, this recommendation is in conflict to the existence of lockers with keys being assigned to all visitors to the sauna. I cannot image why any customer would be asked to leave valuables at the front desk rather than in the assigned locker that is secured with a key. I would not take something of high value to a sauna. If I did bring a valuable item to the sauna, the last thing I would do is tell the sauna employees that I want them to guard or keep my valuable item for me at "the front desk". Taking a valuable item to a sauna then telling the sauna employees at the front desk that you have a valuable item for them to guard, is an invitation for the valuable item to disappear or later become an item to be stolen. As to Junior being scary, I cannot imagine how or why you feel that way. Although Junior likes excessively loud music, I find him fairly mellow and harmless, despite the awful loud music.

Sorry, I have not been to either of those places.

He must know someone at rentmen - The one review is gone and reports to rentmen of him being a fake did not cause rentmen to remove the ad, only the bad review Quite unusual.

I agree, yet this guy still has people hire him and pay his way from Brazil to Los Angeles, back and forth. To make it even more bizarre, the guy lives in Sao Paulo, Brazil and a client pays his way to Los Angeles, periodically. About ten years ago, I hired this guy while he was in Brazil. The first time I got together with him he was in good shape and was quite charming. Then, after about the third time I hired him (a few months later), he had lost a lot of muscle and developed an extremely hostile personality. I do not know if substance abuse caused the major change in his appearance and behavior. He also became very threatening. I stopped seeing him even though I saw him at Lagoa trying to engage other clients. As most of us know, rentmen review narratives are blocked only to Americans who are blocked (except with a VPN) from reading the narratives added to a provider's rentmen review. I think depriving Americans of the narratives is a poor decision on the part of rentmen. Those written narratives, when seen, show that this person is not a nice guy. The review narratives of this provider speak volumes about how unpredictably bad he can be. Some reviews say he is great while others caught the provider during one of his bizarre and difficult times. Anyone choosing to hire this guy, be careful. As you can read from his reviews, he can be difficult.

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Based on your review, it appears that you had a wonderful experience. I am happy for you. However, one thing puzzles me about the ad of the provider. I am not clear how he can be in medical school (which requires a tremendous amount of time and work) and also have such a busy travel schedule to many parts of the world. Given the frequency and the locations of his travel, I wonder how well he does in school.

I think the original poster made it clear that "overnight" with an escort was a new experience for him. Further, the provider claimed that he "had a good amount of experience with first-timers." Considering the first-timer status together with the unusual two solo departures in the middle of the "overnight" the original poster did not get adequate value for his three thousand dollar expenditure from the twice absent provider. Furthermore, I think the provider had a bizarre way of showing his "good amount of experience with first-timers. No wonder the original poster expresses his disappointment about the experience with his first time overnight. If you got the provider from rentmen, be sure to leave a review about his mysterious departures in the middle of your "overnight."

Yikes, I can imagine - Where is the escape hatch?

Even though he has two different ads running, he should, at least, get the statistics correct about himself. In one ad he is age 39 but in his second ad, he is 41. Even his penis size is different in the two ads. one ad says 8.0 while the ad says 8.5 His height is also off. In one ad he is 6.1 while in the other ad, he shrunk to 6.0 One must conclude that truth means nothing to this advertiser.

His method of advertising - ignoring three requests to know his rate plus his stunt about relocking his photos speaks volumes about his advertising approach. Only three reviews within one year on rentmen confirm that the provider is wishy-washy in his advertising method. I will ignore future messages from the provider considering his unusual approach to advertising himself. Thanks to all for responding.

Reasonable people can disagree. I disagree that on a graphic site such as "rentmen," some photos are "locked for a reason." What reason? If you look through rentmen advertisements, you will see countless extremely graphic photos of providers. In consideration of that fact, I am puzzled why a relatively small number of providers feel it is necessary to block some of their graphic photos. In this case, the provider lost a "sale" because of his choice to block his photos and not answer the question asking to know the amount of his fee. As I wrote, reasonable people can disagree.

What was the question? Among other questions, I asked him the amount of his fee. He did not answer the fee question even though he sent three requests to ask when we would meet. He continued to ignore the amount he expected as his fee. Further, he did not unblock the photos that he had opened and then reblocked because I took two days to respond to him. No wonder he has only three reviews although he has advertised on rentmen for nearly one year.