josh282282

Resilience is key.  Reviews happen in every line of work.  I’ve been trolled by the worst on google reviews.  Yelp - oh my goodness those poor restaurants.  A person can only be the best they can be and ignore the bs.

Bozo has never met Jacob.  and as @Pd1_jap stated it is difficult to discern what is true these days. Without any other facts it really is a "he said/he said" situation. And both the member who wrote the positive review and the member who wrote the negative review have only a handful of posts between them. 
https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/161383-411-on-jacob_session-new-orleans/#comment-2474650
However, in general, when trying to deny that you are a drug user, it is not helpful to your case to write in your RM Bio that you are "Into PNP". That's not a good look:

from AI:
PnP stands for "Party and Play," a term primarily used within gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (GBMSM) communities to describe the deliberate combination of recreational drug use with sexual activity. Also known as chemsex, it involves high-risk behaviors and specific substances, often leading to significant mental and physical health risks. 
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Is your "Question About Hiring" what to do if someone demands payment upfront? 
Answer: Walk away and ask him to leave.

Apparently, Bozo is the only COM member that doesn't know what "gen" is? Can someone please explain?
Also, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pay upfront. That includes deposits.
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Agreed. Its a warning about professionalism.  And just like we have many red flags to scare us off providers, providers do the same. Providers asking for deposits are either scammers or don't have the skills to screen customers in other ways and must resort to deposits 

In Bozo's years of hiring, he was only asked one time for a deposit. When Bozo informed the provider that a deposit would be a deal-breaker, he relented, and backed off the demand.
When an escort requires a deposit in advance, Bozo uses that as part of the weeding out process. In most mid-to-large size cities, there are so many choices (i.e. on any given day, NYC could have upwards of 400 escorts to choose from). A provider asking for a deposit is simply another tool to use to separate the wheat from the chaff. It's no different than any other criteria - too old, too fat, too skinny, too hairy, too ugly, too much ink, too much foreskin, etc.). 
In most metropolitan areas there is absolutely no logical reason to pay an upfront deposit when there are dozens (or even hundreds) of willing escorts who won't make that demand, and can be found by simply flipping to the next page in your city on Rentmen.
 
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A NOT BEFORE DISCUSSED REASON TO SAY NO TO DEPOSITS:
Hi all again.
Many men on this thread on the debate of deposit/no deposit have read the unfortunate tales of victimization that some of our community members have described when they provided a deposit in the past- the escort took their deposit money and ran.  Its a horrible experience to be a victim. 
Consider this:
There ARE criminals out there.  And they seek out vulnerable and seemingly weak victims.  And many people in society think gay/bi men are weak.  Even if you disagree we are a weak people, many others will disagree with you. 
Many of us were victimized in our youth by a society that despised gay men or any boy with seemingly weaker attributes.  Tragically, being bullied and harmed is not a rare event for many gay men in their past history.
Yet, when you provide a deposit, this actually creates more gay/bi victims.
And these victims are your brothers. 
Why? You know when you travel out of the country and go to that wonderful "tourist" spot?  The part of the city where its charming & quaint, full of history and beauty?  Sad to say, but they often are full of pick-pockets and criminals.  Why?  Because tourists are easy prey.  They come in "vacation" mode: not paying attention, drinking too much, ignoring clues around them, looking very "touristy".  If Americans only worked on not acting so, well, touristy in these areas, the crime might go down!
When criminals think of gay and bi men, they may think we are weak and easy prey.  Then they hear from here and there how easy it is to put up a Rentmen profile & advertise escort services.  Then when approached online by one of us, they demand a deposit.   We give in because their effort seems well meaning, they seem well spoken, and promises you he just needs "reassurance" with a deposit.  You send the deposit but he runs.  Another victim. 
And that criminal is bragging and laughing about his exploits to his shady friends.  ("OMG, that stupid idiot actually sent me $100 online....!!!!").  Birds of feather flock together- these are crooks. 
And the more the escorting community for gay men is full of guys who WILL pay a deposit, the escorting pool attracts more and more shady criminals who want to steal from and victimize us.  Sure, there are escorts who are genuine and provide their services with a deposit with no problem!  But word of mouth/advertising of deposits make our hiring community like a tourist hot spot in a beautiful country: a place for criminals to go to target easy prey.   Ruins everything. 
So don't think just because you paid a deposit and your particular escort is honest that that choice alone does not add to the problem.  It does.  It makes all of us who hire more at risk for others to victimize and harm us, just like acting like a tourist in touristy areas makes those areas less safe.  Escorts who take deposits and run inevitably provide (if they show up) bad service to us.   They are not going to do all the things you want them to do.  They will be horrible providers.  They only want our cash.  We dont want to encourage them to advertise escort services. 
Protect not only yourself (NO DEPOSITS!) but protect your brothers and this wonderful hiring community-  no deposits!!
You want a safer place for gay/bi men?  Help create a community that is not making itself a target.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world"  Mahatma Gandhi
Love to all
Josh
 
PS:  to all escorts- many of you are genuine, good at what you do, and oh-so-much-fun.  You would never harm any one of us.  And you dont demand deposits!  Dont ever change.  You are beautiful. 
 

Hopefully you see the flaw in your own logic. If not, there is nothing I can say to enlighten you.

I can think of a way to reduce that risk to 0.0%

And to quote the highly quotable @PhileasFogg:
And this should not be forgotten!
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Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)
No. I, and my fellow client colleagues,  are not willing to be "on call" with money for you when escorting is not working out financially for you. Although I do NOT wish you or any other escort financial harm, we are not responsible for your solvency.  But to you and all escorts in the world: I'm hopeful you prosper.  You provide a wonderful service to the community.  
 
Ah, you are not satisfied with my advice? Allow me to elaborate.  You and I are both business men. Similar fields, albeit with a few differences. I'm a physician.  You are an escort.   We are both seek to ...heal our clients (or patients). As a physician I have high overhead costs in maintaining my office: support staff salaries, my office rent, my exorbitant malpractice premiums, to name a few, costs which rise yearly which is alarming & frustrating.  And just like you, before I take home one dollar, ALL my overhead MUST be paid first. Heck, I was hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical school debt before I even got paid to see my first patient! Yes, I genuinely understand your predicament.  I live it daily.  But when a business informs the client this is my fee, BUT then says, "oh, I also need a deposit", um, yah, no. Or the escort says, "Oh, I need you to pay my Uber". Also a big Nope. See, all of my overhead AND my own salary AND (this is the critical point I fear you dont understand) the cost of the lost revenue is wrapped up in the fee I charge for that office visit.  You think patients call, make an appointment to see me and don't show up? It happens DAILY. Every physician has no-shows. You think patients get a bill (after I provide them medical services) from me and always send a payment? Nope. I get patients who stiff me ALL.THE.TIME.  But that loss is factored IN to my fees.  That's Business.  I don't charge multiple fees.   I have protocols that attempt to minimize loss. For example:  two no-shows and my staff informs the patient they are discharged from the practice.  You think you are the only businessman who takes risks and experiences financial loss?  Think again.   I don't come to this platform and bitch & whine & come across as a lunatic because my patients stiff me.    Rather, I focus on my wonderful patients who stay, pay, and make it all worth while.
To all escorts: keep providing your excellent services. Stay professional.  Continue to hone your craft. Keep detailed reports of what's not working. For what's not working focus on strategies to minimize loss and maximize profit. You are an escort to make MONEY - there is nothing wrong with that! So am I.  But demanding fees (deposits or Ubers) will ultimately turn away good clients & make you seem unprofessional.   Good clients (like me) stay away from escorts like that. Including staying away from JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut. Asking for a fee makes you look sketchy.  Its a bad look. 
Love to all,
Josh
 
 

This is quite an interesting second post, especially considering your first one was a negative review of a masseur.

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/162664-stonefruitnyc/#findComment-2588734

I would never use my regular phone number because there's no need to when things like Google Voice and other free phone apps exist. Even getting a burner phone would only cost like $30

Yet another example of why I have a strict policy: No Ubers. No deposits.  No exceptions. 
I've been hiring for years and I have never paid either a deposit nor an Uber & have had some very hot experiences.  
When the very few instances I've been asked for a deposit or an Uber I immediately decline.  The escort has always backed down.
 

In response to JB_Studio38
 
Glad I’m not attracted to you.  Your sour attitude exhibited in your posts here totally turn me off.

I sense you haven’t been on here long? 🫣
I agree with you on flaky clients. Many of the dilettante types are just getting off on the enquiry. Honestly the number of ‘hey are you free today / tomorrow etc’ to whom I respond but who then simply go quiet is astounding. What do they do?… Get bored? Lose their phone? Forget they asked?. Why ask me, get a reply and then ignore it? I’ll never understand that. Or the ones that message with ‘hey’ and then silence….what’s that about? Trying to see if I’m real? 
Same day requests are annoying if I can’t do them because it feels like income foregone but I’d rather they ask me because sometimes it works. This is a service business, you do need to be a bit flexible to clients requirements, within what’s reasonable for you. If you want the predictability of a 9 to 5 job….go and do a 9 to 5 job. I certainly wouldn’t do that! I love the variety of the job. 
I don’t see many scams, it’s mostly impossibly pretty females sending me direct messages on X. If only they looked at my X they’d see its full of gay porn. They’d get more chance of me falling for it if they send me some hot topless guy asking about a collab. That I’d probably reply to 😂

 

 

A provider calling sex-for-free as 'trashy' is just beyond.....

I disagree. I definitely have been known to 'hook-up'. And now since I can't afford to hire, if I didn't occasionally hook-up, I'd never have sex.(Although for the last several months I have had a 'buddy'. It's certainly nice not to have to always be searching for strangers.)
I love how supportive we are of each other. Although I have to admit that I'm no angel. Overly  feminine males put me on edge (as do overly macho women). But just because I'm uncomfortable with it doesn't make me right and them wrong. But all of us ought to work at being more charitable of our fellows. 

He’ll be lucky….if Derek shows up.

Life (usually) is as difficult as we would like it to be.

If the question about too much trouble is posed to escorts, the answer must be no, because new escorts continue to advertise, book, and re-up their ads, and develop regulars. 
If the same is posed to clients, the answer is also no, because clients commenting here keep patronizing the providers. Once they are purely hooking up with other non-pros online, this forum goes away. It hasn't. 👏
If "is it too much trouble?" is posed by the questioner to his reflection in the mirror, well... most of his posts indicate that it absolutely is. 

Yet another example of why I have a strict policy: No Ubers. No deposits.  No exceptions. 
I've been hiring for years and I have never paid either a deposit nor an Uber & have had some very hot experiences.  
When the very few instances I've been asked for a deposit or an Uber I immediately decline.  The escort has always backed down.
 

Yet another example of why I have a strict policy: No Ubers. No deposits.  No exceptions. 
I've been hiring for years and I have never paid either a deposit nor an Uber & have had some very hot experiences.  
When the very few instances I've been asked for a deposit or an Uber I immediately decline.  The escort has always backed down.
 

Yet another example of why I have a strict policy: No Ubers. No deposits.  No exceptions. 
I've been hiring for years and I have never paid either a deposit nor an Uber & have had some very hot experiences.  
When the very few instances I've been asked for a deposit or an Uber I immediately decline.  The escort has always backed down.
 

Yet another example of why I have a strict policy: No Ubers. No deposits.  No exceptions. 
I've been hiring for years and I have never paid either a deposit nor an Uber & have had some very hot experiences.  
When the very few instances I've been asked for a deposit or an Uber I immediately decline.  The escort has always backed down.