Seymour Butts

I like it a lot better when it's in the moment rather than planned. So if I'm having a longer session and the provider excuses himself to use the restroom, I ask if he'd be willing to share. Some will, some won't.

I like it a lot better when it's in the moment rather than planned. So if I'm having a longer session and the provider excuses himself to use the restroom, I ask if he'd be willing to share. Some will, some won't.

The one very popular porn star I hired in the past few years was one of the most down to earth, humble, and awesome escort that I have come across. He didn't brag about his porn, hardly mentioned it in his profile, and didn't even charge an insanely high rate. He's also someone you all would recognize easily. 
We actually discussed his porn in person sitting on my sofa. Porn was for the money. He has a love-hate relationship with it. He actually prefers escorting because he gets off on the connection with people 1:1 in a private and calm environment vs. being in front of a camera and having to perform for hours. Less pressure. Better chemistry and energy. Able to focus more. He also mentioned it allowed him to hook up with a wider variety of guys who he couldn't on-camera because it wouldn't "sell" -- meaning older, chubbier, different and various looks, etc. People that wouldn't make for good porn if that makes sense. He also turns down a lot of clients who want to hire him, so I guess something about my approach and/or talk with him beforehand made him comfortable with me as a client. I guess. 
He was my one and only porn escort hire and I probably wouldn't hire another one because he set the bar way too high, if that makes sense. 

Maybe I've been extraordinarily unlucky? 
I only have the resources to hire twice a year, so I've seen maybe a dozen providers total. So I do a lot of research beforehand, or at least I try: most of the men who float my boat seem unknown to the kind gentlemen of this site, which is neither a recommendation nor a disrecommendation. Of the twelve or so providers I've seen:
 
One offered me something to drink at his place, then in twenty minutes or so it became apparent that drink was drugged
One guy's bed gave me scabies 
Two couldn't get an erection 
One was a repeat hire after an incredible first encounter. I flew out to see him a second time, but then an hour before the appointment time he said he had the flu (could have let me know before I flew out there thank you)
One completely ghosted me, like he wasn't home at his apartment and wouldn't respond to my messages asking where he was 
One was a big-time a la carte provider
 
Come to think of it, I have more bad encounters than good ones...why do I do this again?

I believe this is meatball_mike's gorgeous boyfriend. Kudos to him for getting his man into the biz!

In my experience that type of "hybrid" service is not that unusual. There's nothing wrong with a provider to like you and want to enjoy some of the fun. However, I'm not sure if looking for that type of experience from masseurs who don't normally provide extras after the massage will be a good thing.
I'd suggest to look for providers who offer erotic massages, which give the higher chance of getting good sex. BUT THAT IS UP TO THE MASSEUR. That's the tricky part.
You can also hire an escort and get that as a fantasy/role play. In my experience, that type of things do happen (I experienced something similar in Sitges, Spain in 2023), but they are out of the ordinary. I woudn't be pursuing that unless I specifically ask beforehand.
Just my opinion, not law.

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

If you want to find a reprise/repeat/recreation of this type of event, you will have to do without the element of surprise. 
Cross-check between masseur platforms and escort platforms. 
You want skills - but the service you’re actually hiring is escort. In major markets there are many providers who offer both. Focus on the masseur ad for education and yrs of experience, guarantee of table, and description of techniques. Hire an escort session that is largely massage. Some have set combo rates. It’s not impossible to find something close to the pleasure of your cruise experience - even better if it’s not on a bed. 🥂

Masseuse is female.  If you want more dick in your ass during a massage, then you DON'T want a masseuse 😉 

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

Thank you everyone! I'm very very willing to accept that this was a rare occurrence that's very unlikely to recur, at least not reliably. But what I'm hearing is that practically no quality massages come with butt stuff at the end, nor do quality escorts offer good massages? It seems like such an untapped market...
PS for anyone who mentioned this, whatever advantages I might have in the looks department I more than make up for with a complete lack of social skills 😂

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

I don't think you've been misunderstanding things all along.  You just got lucky with this particular masseur.  When I was in my mid 40s and in better shape, I had a lot of masseurs who went further with me than expected in an erotic massage.  I usually didn't question it or comment about it, figuring that the guy was in control of what he included in his massage appointments.  On the few occasions I did comment/question, I got responses along the lines of what you heard. 
There is no way to arrange this in advance, though, because once a client approaches a masseur with this expectation he's basically saying, "I want you to do all of the demanding work of a legitimate masseur, and then I want you to fuck me like an escort would, but I'll only be paying you for the massage."  Sounds ridiculous and insulting, right?  But if you happen to be in the right place at the right time with the right guy who's interested in you enough to want to fuck you, then just enjoy the ride.

There are obviously lots of guys who straddle massage and escorting. So fucking may be part of their service but they're probably not the greatest masseurs. 
Then there are legit skilled masseurs who offer sensual and erotic options. In the UK they tend to give you a list of options in advance for you to select your preference. That seems to be legally more of an issue in the US so upsell during the massage is more prevalent i believe. Some of them will offer fucking as part of those services but often they won't go that far even for the erotic. 
Then the real rarity are therapeutic masseurs who want to have some fun. I've seen two guys like that over the years and they both became regulars. One who I still see now the first meeting was similar to yours. Booked a legit massage, no hint of anything more in his website and reviews. During the massage he made the move and we've fucked every time since. 

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

I have a little story to tell here that's led me to wonder if all my escort hires have all been all wrong... Maybe I've wanted a "masseuse" instead?
Currently on a gay cruise. The massage appointments in the spa booked up very quickly, and are egregiously overpriced, so some enterprising passengers have handed out ads that they do massages for much lower rates and much easier availability. I did a little due diligence, reached out to one of them. 
"Is this a massage, or a 😉massage😉" I asked him. "Because I need a massage a lot more than I need a 😉 massage😉 today." He responded that he does deep tissue and gets knots out, which didn't really answer my question, but his rates were in line with regular masseuses and much lower than escort rates so I went ahead and booked it.
I get to his room, and yes it's a very good legitimate massage, getting me feeling very nice and very relaxed. Then I notice he's massaging my buttocks an awful lot. Then he positions himself so while he rubs my back, his crotch rubs against my crack. Then he slips it in.
"Ummm I didn't really prepare for this," I explain. "I didn't realize this was a part of the package."
"It isn't," he responded. "This is for me."
He was good looking so I went with it. Gentlemen, it was the most pleasurable fuck I've had in a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure it's because I was so relaxed from the massage that my butt was very welcoming to its surprise visitor.
Afterwards, he charged my card less than his usual massage rate, and asked me several times not to tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to expect that kind of service. So I'm inclined, perhaps naïvely, to believe that was legitimately him going for something he wanted.
NOW THEN.
I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that. Sadly this gentleman lives on the other side of the country, so repeats from him specifically aren't going to be in the cards. But my understanding has always been that a 😉massage😉 comes with a happy ending, maybe a blowie, and that's that. Penises in butts fall strictly under the escorts category, and escorts tend not to have legitimate massage skills. 
What can people tell me about this type of hybrid service, with a legitimate massage followed by a good plowing? Is it extremely rare? Have I been misunderstanding everything all along???

https://rent.men/BullATL
 
This is someone I know in my personal life who has now joined "the biz." At least two mutual friends have separately told me that they've only had one time when they came hands free from getting fucked, and both of them said it was from him. Ymmv of course.

Smelling nice manly pits often puts me near the edge of the point of orgasmic inevitability. So I always ask providers to not use deodorant and most smell really good. I don’t think you really need to do a deep specialized search for a special smell. Just request “no deodorant please, I prefer a natural manly scent” and most guys will fit the bill just great. 80% in my experience. And 95% if they are at least a bit hairy. 

I've had the most beautiful men but then have no energy or vibe with some of them. Then I have had guys that maybe arent as conventionally attractive but I have such a good time with. It depends more on the chemistry for me. 

I think now it is my time.

65 here and still hiring, although I limit to a very short list of people I would see regularly.  My absolute top/favorite man out there is @Vin Marco.  I see him usually once a year when he heads in my direction, but it's well worth the wait.  As many have said, finding a companion who is appealing to you physically is easy; finding one who you find appealing as a person is equally beneficial.  Your age shouldn't be a factor at all -- thankfully my senior citizen status has not stopped me from seeing Vin or the short list of other regulars I've met over the years.

15 minutes past the hour. 
I figure the first 15 minutes of a session are wasted on "How do you do?'s" and "Did you find the place okay?".  By scheduling sessions for 15 minutes past the hour, you can skip all that and get right to the good stuff! 😆 

He's also on X/Twitter. Wow he's a beast!!!!!  😍