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He's got a hot body but nothing else about that ad would inspire me to hire him. I don't know why he chose the name Depay, but it doesn't create a good image.

I don't see any equivalency to being okay with hiring escorts. Paying someone for sex is illegal, but apart from that it does not necessarily have a negative impact on one's health. Consuming enough alcohol to reach a blood alcohol level of greater than .15 is unhealthy physically and can certainly lead that person to put themselves in danger they wouldn't ordinarily accept if they were sober. And, again, I am referring to people who have been around the block enough times to have first hand experience with this and thus should be able to gauge how much is too much for themselves. It takes a lot of alcohol to reach the point where you don't know what you're doing. Young people acting recklessly is not excusable if they end up hurting someone else, but it is understandable given lack of life experience.

I doubt it was the weed. More than likely simply excess alcohol consumption. This is coming from someone who used to abuse both alcohol and marijuana. Marijuana isn't going to make you lose your memory of what happened. You won't lose your balance. The most likely adverse effect for some people is paranoia. Alcohol, on the other hand, is quite debilitating when someone consumes too much. One can definitely pass out and/or fall over. After excessive consumption, one will continue to appear functional (by that I mean they are still conscious) but seriously drunk but the next day they won't remember anything. Someone abuses alcohol to that extent is lucky if they have someone who looks out for them, making sure they get home without getting into some sort of accident. I still drink on occasion, but very little. I can count on one hand the number of times I have smoked pot over the past 20 years. Not excusing excessive "partying" by those who are young, but at least I can understand the desire to explore different substances when one is a young adult and exploring a lot of other things as well. Someone who is middle aged who gets so drunk that he cannot remember the next day what happened is just pathetic.

The only way to know what a provider offers ahead of time, I think, is to communicate. Some guys do post nude photos and provide an erotic experience. Other guys post nude photos and have high rates but don't provide the experience one might expect. If you don't want to gamble, then ask in advance what you can expect.

A little bit of chatter from about a year ago:

Glad to know that he's legit and a nice guy. I just read the interview in his ad and it's clear he's a funny guy. How refreshing that someone actually injected some personality into a Rentmen ad.

Just noticed this new ad for someone in San Francisco who is calling himself OTTOmobileMATE. His entire ad is worded using automobile language -- silly in a way but I think it's also clever.

I don't have an issue with a guy who has a lot of Fans content just as I didn't have an issue with a guy having done a lot of studio porn. Since you mentioned specific things like fisting and PNP, though, I understand that hesitation. Obviously you could hire someone who likes to be fisted and not do that with him, but I can understand how just having seen the guy do it might be somewhat of a boner killer for someone. There's no right or wrong answer, but if seeing certain things on someone's Fans page turns you off then there are lots of other men available. This is honestly what turns me off more, and I've only recently encountered it because I started using OF/JFF in a slightly different way: If a guy is visiting my area and has a Fans page that is reasonably priced, I will subscribe for a month to help me decide whether I'd want to meet him. Out of the three times I've done this, two firmly changed my desire to hire them because they were providing so little content on Only Fans that I felt cheated. I figure that if someone is going to ask $9.99 per month and then post just a couple of still photos and brief j/o videos then he probably doesn't care about providing a quality experience in person, either.

I don't think either of them look 14 or 15, though. Maybe you're just suffering from the common affliction of not being able to tell how old someone young is because you're getting older yourself. I remember first noticing this in myself sometime in my thirties.

I don't know when Tyler Hill was born so I don't know how old he is in the photo posted, but Landon Vega was 19 when he started porn so I assume he's at least that old in this photo. Given that Tyler Hill was active in porn for a few years before Landon Vega's debut, I assume he's the older one in this photo. In other words, both of these guys are 19 years old or older. Yes, they both look like young men...but that's young men, not "boys" as you wrote. Many states in the U.S.A. already have a higher age of consent than many other countries. Should we become even more puritanical and attempt to control the sex lives of people old enough to vote, old enough to enlist in the military, viewed as adults in courts of law? I know you are saying that the "blame" isn't on the young men but the older men who find them sexually attractive, but in essence you are arguing that young men should only be allowed to have sex with each other because it's "alarming and quite disgusting" that anyone older than that age cohort would want to have sex with someone younger. Note that I'm not particularly a twink fetishist. For the most part I find guys mid 20s and above far sexier. I just find your argument a bit disturbing since it isn't that different than an anti-gay person's attempt to legislate homosexuality because they find it "alarming and disgusting." What business is it of anyone else unless there is exploitation/coercion going on? Shouldn't adults be able to determine their own sex lives?

I'm pretty sure one guy I hired faked an orgasm as he fucked me. Some medical conditions and medications might cause a man to not ejaculate much (if at all) when he has an orgasm, so that's always a possibility as well.

If your experience is at all similar to mine, your ease of reaching orgasm will diminish as you get older so I say if cumming early isn't causing a problem with the masseur, then just enjoy it. I saw a masseur a few times who got to the happy ending part early with me and then proceeded to clean me up and give me a good therapeutic massage afterwards. Had that been in my twenties, I probably would have been ready for a happy ending after having had a happy beginning. Given that I was considerably older, however, one happy time per hour was all I was good for.

When I was in college I knew a straight woman who loved watching gay porn, so I assume there are some women who simply like watching. Later in life I knew a gay guy who loved to call phone sex lines, use a female name, and talk in an altered voice to chat with men and lead them down a path of torturing "her" during sex. I don't know what he got out of that sexually or psychologically, but I know one thing it gave him: vocal chord problems that ended up costing him a radio job because management was unhappy that his voice was cracking so much on the air.

I've never been offered money in such a random way, but a few times I did have men pull their cars over and invite me to get in. Uh, no thanks. I know that some people would take that risk in the chance the payoff will be great, but my first thought has always been that I certainly am not getting into a motor vehicle with someone with whom I've had no previous interaction.

I don't know what your posted reply to Jamie21 means, then, when you wrote: "You're gonna consistently be disappointed if your expectations are so far outside the norm. "Sensual" massage is about touching YOU, not interactive touching." Sounds like you were replying to him as if he was a client, not a provider, especially the part about "sensual massage is about touching YOU," unless you actually intended to write that sensual massage is about the client touching the masseur and not vice-versa. That surely would be outside of the norm; however, one time I did have a masseur who offered to let me massage him for a bit because he said some likes like to be able to touch him all over, not just the parts that are reachable when lying on a massage table.

That's the way I've always approached hiring an erotic masseur. I have no expectations beyond manual release (and that's only if I can manage to get excited quickly enough, which doesn't always happen). Anything more is a bonus.

I'm a bit confused by your responses to Jamie21. You do realize he is a provider, not a client, right? He is saying what he provides, not what he expects. I agree with him that he is perhaps over-delivering if by "interact with me as much or as little as you like" he means the client can expect full service at a lower-than-full-escort rate. Not that I mind that as a client and some masseurs I've hired have had sex with me (at their initiation, not mine) when I contacted them for erotic massages. I certainly don't expect anything other than mutual masturbation and all over touching when hiring an erotic masseur, though.

Two of my favorites: The Flame in Ann Arbor. I used to go there regularly in the early 1980s. To some it might have just seemed like a dive, but my experience was this: A good jukebox with both some modern hits and older records like Girl From Ipanema and Theme From New York, New York. Friendly bartenders. Diverse crowd in terms of age and gender, though mostly men. Friendly if you wanted it to be but cruisy if you were looking for that. I still remember my last year living there: There was a hunky guy who always walked from his car to the bar (only about a minute walk) with no coat, even in the middle of winter. It would be 10 degrees outside and he'd saunter in wearing a tight white t-shirt and jeans. He was sexy and he knew it. Hole In The Wall in San Francisco's SOMA neighborhood, before they moved to their current location (assuming it's reopened). The old location was long and narrow, making it possible to get a little action going on in the back and not be immediately visible to people walking in from the street. It helped that they always kept the space very hot, encouraging everyone to take off their shirts. I certainly didn't have a lean gym body but felt comfortable shirtless there because it was mostly populated by average guys. The music was generally not what I'd listen to on my own but the DJs did a good job of selecting stuff that just created a somewhat dark, sexy vibe. Beyond that, I just don't think I've ever seen a bar where the lighting and decor was so cool that I could sit there by myself for a long time and just enjoy looking around. I've certainly enjoyed some other bars, but those two stand out as favorites.

Yes, Rhyheim seems to be another smart one when it comes to using the Fans platforms. I just don't understand why some of these guys don't understand that they would be more successful charging less and providing quality content versus having fans who pay to access their pages but end up with minimal content with the expectation that those fans will keep paying extra for what they really want to see. If anything, there are a lot of guys who will just scour the internet for free porn so it makes sense that if you want to collect money for your porn versus people watching it for free elsewhere then provide a good reason for people to pay a nominal amount.

Looking at JFF this morning where I currently only have one subscription (Manuel Skye) made me think about how different providers approach this business differently. I have to say Manuel is one smart cookie: He breaks down most scenes into 3 or 4 parts which he posts over a period of a few weeks, so if someone's subscription is about to lapse he might extend it just to see the concluding part of a scene. While this might sound bad (and I would honestly just prefer to have an entire scene posted as one clip), I don't think it's a bad business practice as long as there is other content being posted at the same time. I've noticed that Manuel usually has 2 or 3 scenes going at a time, so while he posts part 2 of 3 of one scene he's posting the first part of another and the last part of something else. He also posts a lot of solo material and "flashback" scenes. He posts some teasers of videos available as PPV in direct messaging, but unlike some guys it isn't like he refuses to post full scenes without getting paid more than the standard subscription fee. I don't know how his page is working out for him financially, but from the outside I would say that he seems to have put thought into how to maximize his income from this by keeping fans happy but also keeping them wanting more. I'll contrast this with a couple of other guys whom I won't name who posted almost no content other than still photos and very brief solo scenes. They'd tease that they would soon be posting a hot scene and/or ask what the fans wanted to see, but then they would fail to deliver. It's amazing to me that a provider doesn't understand that they won't retain any subscribers if they aren't posting anything of value. One of these guys even had the gall to increase his subscription rate from $10 to $14.95 per month because, he said, he needed more money to create content. He really had that backwards -- he needed to create and post more content so $10 per month seemed worth it, and then maybe he could have increased his price and retained satisfied customers at a higher revenue point.

I think the only clear misrepresentations occur when a masseur advertises an erotic massage and then remains fully clothed and doesn't do anything outside of what a therapeutic masseur would do. Beyond that, if you want to know what an erotic massage from a specific provider is going to entail then ask. As others have written, however, consider it a bonus if a masseur wants to have sex with you beyond giving you a happy ending with his hand. Hire an escort at escort rates if you want more.

A funny clip showing how far an undercover cop posing as a prostitute will go to make a bust, from one of my favorite South Park episodes Butters' Bottom Bitch.

I've never liked Pepsi (regular or diet) precisely because it doesn't have that edge/bitterness/whatever that Coke has. Coke is sweet but it has that bite that makes it more enjoyable. Fortunately Safeway's house brand cola has a taste profile more like Coke, so I can buy their version to save money. If Coca Cola has reformulated Coke Zero to taste more like Pepsi that is, indeed, unfortunate. Truth be told that I seldom drink colas any more anyway since it's harder to find caffeine free versions and I'm trying to limit my caffeine.

Most people wouldn't, but if you hire escorts and/or peruse sites like Rentmen to look at escort ads then you might recognize someone in the gym as the guy who has an escort ad online. That's obviously why some men choose to not have their faces in their ads (or at least have it only visible for those who have access to their "private" photos). After I posted my other reply, I noticed the other recent thread about how/whether to acknowledge an escort you've hired when you see him out in public somewhere. The majority opinion seems to be that people value privacy above all else and consider it improper for a client to approach or greet an escort in public and vice-versa. Given that it seems like most would view it as a faux pas to approach someone in public for the purpose of soliciting him.

I'm still skeptical, but I have no skin in this game since Rainer doesn't live near me. I just considered it a public service to point out to other forum members who might be considering contacting Rainer the coincidence of two new members joining at the same time (according to the site, literally within the same hour), both having hired Rainer previously and both motivated to find a thread about him so they could post their very similar negative views. Maybe that is all just coincidental but it surely set off my BS meter.