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I don't know whether any younger men are into the hanky code, or if locations with fewer gay men are into it, but I still see some guys wearing a colored hanky in a back pocket on occasion. I was actually recently in one of the sex shops in the Castro and they had various colored hankies and a guide as to the meaning of various colors in right versus left pocket.

I can understand trying a different contact method if you reach out to someone and don't get a reply, but I assume that flaking on two appointments means that contact was established and plans were made -- it's just that Zoro didn't show up to either appointment. Why would initiating contact a third time in a different manner be any more likely to result in an escort showing up? I personally wouldn't give anyone even a second chance if they flaked on me once. Canceling an appointment in advance -- yes. But just not showing up? Barring being in a coma or something, it just isn't excusable for me. Worst is when they don't show up and don't even have the decency to reply to messages asking what's going on. Even if it's a couple of hours later, a contrite reply might cause me to reconsider them for a future appointment; ghosting me just puts them on the time-waster list.

He has a promotion for a free day right now, so I subscribed. I didn't scroll back through his entire feed, but everything I saw was just a quick video with an instruction to "check your inbox" aka pay me more and you can see the full video. That isn't worth it to me, and I'm not interested in coordinating my schedule with someone who goes live a few nights per week. Just goes to show you that different people have a different sense of what's "worth it." To me, I want to see full length videos posted on their page without me having to pay extra, at a minimum of two new full length videos per month but hopefully more.

There is a huge difference between an adult male renting a room and then having more male guests than one would normally expect and an adult male renting a room with a female companion (who may or may not give obvious signs of being exploited) and then that room being visited by more male guests than one would expect. In fact, I'd argue there really isn't any comparison other than that both rooms have a lot of men going to them.

This. It might be viewed as callous and capitalism certainly has its callous aspects, but most places I worked at had either no official bereavement leave policy or had 2-3 days, depending on the closeness of relationship of the deceased and employee. Even then, I was surprised to learn that when my father died there was actually no separate pot of paid time off for bereavement; it just came out of my vacation accrual. Bereavement leave simply meant that the supervisor couldn't deny the time off request since it was precipitated by a death. I'm just posting this to say that corporate America thinks you should be back to work in just a few days, so I don't think that anyone should feel they need to avoid contacting a service provider for a long period of time because he had a personal tragedy. He honestly might not have the luxury of not working for a month (a lot of people don't have savings that allow taking off that much time), so I'd say that approaching him after a week (more or less) is okay, particuarly if you do so in a sympathetic way -- something along the lines of, "I'm sorry to learn of the loss of your son. I'm interested in hiring you for a massage whenever you feel ready to return to work."

Are you trying to read reviews on Rent.men or Rentmen.eu? I cannot get it to work on Rent.men but the VPN site does work on Rentmen.eu using Chrome. (I haven't tried Firefox in a while, but I couldn't get the work-around to work using Firefox when I first tried it years ago.)

In all of my decades of hiring in San Francisco, I think this type of escort with a bodybuilder has either not existed or extremely rare. The reason I asked for clarification as to what constitutes a bodybuilder is that I can recall an exchange on Hooboy decades ago where I linked an ad as a bodybuilder and I was promptly shot down by a lot of forum members who told me that a bodybuilder isn't just someone muscular but someone who has an even larger build and lower body fat.

Yes, but it also sounds like he was gone for a while the first time so why would he think he could find something the second time at an even later hour?

Well, that certainly changes things. I would certainly question why someone needs something to eat only a couple of hours after you met and then says he needs to go out again a couple of hours later. Maybe a sign of a drug problem he wanted to hide from you, or maybe he was seeing other clients for short appointments during your time together? Even if he was just looking for food because he lifts a lot and likes to eat frequently, he should have brought some protein bars or a shake or something instead of leaving you to look for food repeatedly.

If you had a 14 hour appointment, it sounds like it began at 7pm since he left at 9am the next day. If that's the case, then you should have arranged to have a meal at either the beginning of your appointment or, if you were worried about one or both of you being clean enough for anal sexy, had sex right away (or maybe after one drink) and then gone out to eat. In my experience an overnight appointment that truly is an extended appointment (not just hooking up from midnight to 6am or something) should include at least the evening meal if not breakfast. So, if you did anything "wrong" other than starting out with an overnight instead of just an hour or two appointment, it's that you didn't factor in the need for the guy to eat dinner and instead spent hours drinking alcohol with him. (I assume you were drinking for hours since you said he went out to get something to eat and came back at midnight, so unless he was absent for a long time then you probably were hanging out drinking and chatting for quite a while.) I don't really get a sense that the escort did anything wrong other than maybe not guiding you into a more explicit conversation about how your appointment would be structured. Since he knew you were new to this and he's apparently experienced, he should have raised some of these issues in advance (including the time in the morning he anticipated leaving) so you could have structured the time in a way that met more of your needs. Therefore, I definitely don't think it would be appropriate for you to contact him to complain about his behavior other than maybe you wish he had helped you figure out some structure in advance. It's more of a live and learn circumstance. I'm interested in alternate perspectives. Maybe some believe that the escort should have taken more control in the moment, guiding you to eating dinner instead of drinking when more dining establishments were open, and then initiated play in the morning early enough that you could enjoy it without feeling like the clock was ticking. Maybe some will call into question the escort leaving to try to find food not once but twice (which does seem a bit odd to me). Maybe some will even argue that the escort knew exactly what he was doing -- getting you to pay his fee in exchange for mostly time spent drinking and sleeping -- but for all we knew the escort actually believed that allowing you to set the pace was the best thing for you. Assuming you decide to schedule another overnight at some point with him or anyone else, I suggest having more communication in advance to see if you are both on the same page as to what's going to happen during your time together.

Just to be clear: You don't believe anyone should be held pretrial?

I assume I am the poster who is being accused of conflating two different cases. My point in bringing up the other man's case wasn't to equate it to Wolf's. It was in response to others claiming that they knew what the disposition of Wolf's case would be. Sometimes the eventual conviction and punishment is far less than one might assume based on the initial charges and evidence.

Yes, that's the difficulty here. Unless one wants to believe some sort of conspiracy (the evidence was planted, someone else was using his account to trade the videos), then regardless of the fact that he hasn't faced trial yet he's guilty in my eyes. It's like if someone gets caught in the act of some other crime: They are still entitled to their day in court, and maybe through some legal wrangling they will end up being convicted of a charge that's less severe than the crime they actually did. In the case of Wolf, it's just hard to conjure up any sympathy for someone trading videos of prepubescent kids getting raped, especially when some of his previous behaviors made him out to be a not very likeable guy already.

That was my point, and the point of the person to whose post I replied.

The entire reason some people are held pending trial is that they are deemed a serious threat if they were to remain free. It seems like prosecutors argued and the judge agreed that there's reason to believe Wolf would continue to be a risk to children through his online behavior if he were in home confinement. That isn't an unreasonable position to hold. While I don't think anyone deserves to be assaulted or murdered in prison, I wouldn't argue that Wolf deserves special treatment so he entirely avoids this risk. What should be true is that everyone being held pending trial is physically safe, and if they remain incarcerated following conviction then they should still be physically safe.

I agree. Typically when I reply to a post that I think is disingenuous, I begin with something along the lines of, "Assuming you are serious..." What makes the OP highly questionable is that the poster wants to hire the lawyer at the firm, even though he apparently finds his personality off-putting while, at the same time, admitting that he really only "knows of" the guy but doesn't really know him.

I'm not sure why you wrote that the Daily Mail story would leave readers shaken. It contains no new information other than than Wolf was not released to home confinement. I'm not shaken by that; it seems like the right decision for someone with these allegations against him. Note: I removed the second link you provided because we were asked not to share Wolf's legal name on this site and that link clearly indicates his real name.

I won't go into much detail because I took this class several years ago and cannot say that I have all of the details memorized, but I attended a training from a psychologist with decades of experience in research and treatment of child sex perpetrators and the most surprising thing she said was this: A large percentage of men experience sexual arousal when shown sexually suggestive images of children. She basically said the difference between the men she treated and those she didn't was not the physiological impulse but rather the control of those impulses.

My point is that at this time, we don't know what charges (if any) Austin Wolf will eventually be found guilty of. The other guy was able to plead to one "attempted" charge even though the government found scores of porn videos he produced where he was with the 16-year-old and then sold online. His actual, not attempted, actions were documented on camera. If that guy was able to plea down, it's entirely possible that Wolf could be able to do so as well. Then again, the videos described in the article regarding Austin Wolf are clearly beyond what this other guy produced. They clearly involved prepubescent kids, not older but still not legal teens, and it sounds like at least one was a brutal rape scene. Maybe prosecutors are less inclined to give someone an opportunity to plead to lesser charges when the content involved is clearly much more depraved.

Not just you. I think I'd like this guy a lot more with a still muscular but much smaller physique. And if someone wants to be this much of a bodybuilder, he needs to focus on all body parts. At least in the photos in the ad, it looks like he doesn't work his legs out proportionate to his upper body work outs -- particularly his calves. As to men using Rent.men just to bring traffic to their Fans pages, this is sadly all too common. If I like what I see in an ad, I might subscribe to a guy's page for a month. A lot of the time just watching some videos makes me not want to meet the guy anyway, but sometimes it becomes clear that they really are just porn actors, not escorts.

Any speculation about what will happen to Austin Wolf is just that. There's a fairly recent case involving a guy in his early twenties who had sex many times with a 16 year old, filmed it, and posted it on Only Fans and Just For Fans. The guy fled to Puerto Vallarta from Kansas and was working under an alias until he was arrested and sent back to the US to face charges. Despite having many videos of him and the victim having sex, he was allowed to plead guilty to "attempting" to create child pornography. I don't think he's been sentenced yet, but apparently he faces a minimum of 15 years in prison with a maximum of 30 years. I know the allegations against Wolf that are public so far only involve him distributing and receiving child pornography, not producing it himself, so I didn't bring up the above case to say they are equivalent. I just thought it might offer some insight into how the government might prosecute someone in Wolf's circumstance.

My question is this: When someone says they want a "bodybuilder," are they necessarily meaning someone who looks like Stu on the right, with not only very large muscles but also so little body fat that individual muscle fibers and some veins are visible?

No, it was removed and I got a warning. I didn't pay attention and the photo I linked had an erection which isn't allowed to be embedded into thread here. Here's a replacement photo suitable for this site.

I'm always confused by the "bodybuilder" category since some people seem to use it to mean anyone who's particularly muscular and other people reserve it for people who have a physique that would qualify them to enter a bodybuilder contest. Here's a photo of Stu of Sean Cody fame. The left shows a muscular man that surely "built his body," but the right is him after quitting porn and entering the world of bodybuilding competition. I actually find the image on the left more appealing, but I know that some people are more interested in physiques as shown on the right. There are guys with builds similar to Stu in his Sean Cody days who are advertising currently on Rent.men in San Francisco (though maybe no one as cute as him!), but there isn't anyone who looks like Stu on the right.

I get the joke, but I think it's based on a very distorted impression of what Craigslist offered. At least in San Francisco, there were a lot of gay men who would dip their toes into the escort and/or erotic massage pool. I still vetted guys I hired and I took precautions when meeting men for the first time. Even though I occasionally ended up with providers who misrepresented what they were offering, I had far more successes than failures. I never found myself in a position where I felt concerned for my physical safety.