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SecretProvider got a reaction from Brock O in How long have you been doing this?
I started very loosely when I was 21. Then over the next 10 years, every few years I would dip in and out for a few months.when I needed extra cash.
Then when I was 30 i decided to dip my toes back in it to supplement my income and save for a trip through Europe.
When I got home I lost my job to a company restructure and I started doing sex work full time and was making way more money than I was working my shitty full time job anyway.
It's been just over 7 years now full time.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from spidir in Threesome Protocol
Just go with the flow. Sitting back and watching for a bit is also really sexy for all parties.
I would not invite the provider who has said he doesn't enjoy it. I think most providers would like group bookings - I really enjoy when I get to invited to threesomes with other providers by clients- it's a chance to have sex with someone I am much more likely to have sex with in my personal life so almost like catching me in my natural habitat. I always make sure not to get carried away and that the client feels important though.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + Just Sayin in How long have you been doing this?
I started very loosely when I was 21. Then over the next 10 years, every few years I would dip in and out for a few months.when I needed extra cash.
Then when I was 30 i decided to dip my toes back in it to supplement my income and save for a trip through Europe.
When I got home I lost my job to a company restructure and I started doing sex work full time and was making way more money than I was working my shitty full time job anyway.
It's been just over 7 years now full time.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Whippoorwill in How long have you been doing this?
I started very loosely when I was 21. Then over the next 10 years, every few years I would dip in and out for a few months.when I needed extra cash.
Then when I was 30 i decided to dip my toes back in it to supplement my income and save for a trip through Europe.
When I got home I lost my job to a company restructure and I started doing sex work full time and was making way more money than I was working my shitty full time job anyway.
It's been just over 7 years now full time.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from BSR in How long have you been doing this?
I started very loosely when I was 21. Then over the next 10 years, every few years I would dip in and out for a few months.when I needed extra cash.
Then when I was 30 i decided to dip my toes back in it to supplement my income and save for a trip through Europe.
When I got home I lost my job to a company restructure and I started doing sex work full time and was making way more money than I was working my shitty full time job anyway.
It's been just over 7 years now full time.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from TorontoDrew in How long have you been doing this?
I started very loosely when I was 21. Then over the next 10 years, every few years I would dip in and out for a few months.when I needed extra cash.
Then when I was 30 i decided to dip my toes back in it to supplement my income and save for a trip through Europe.
When I got home I lost my job to a company restructure and I started doing sex work full time and was making way more money than I was working my shitty full time job anyway.
It's been just over 7 years now full time.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Luv2play in When you don't want to believe the writing on the wall.
Some guys put their travel dates away from their regular location when they are traveling so people know they are NOT in town.
Some guys when they are traveling are visiting family, can still see clients but only have limited availability.
Some people just don't know what the scheduled is going to be like on a trip months in advance and don't want to commit until they are sure they can provide.
It can be a whole host of reasons without jumping to 'he is lying and he never wants to see me again'.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from peter831 in Is anyone else noticing a drop in escort pricing?
you are not speaking for all escorts and you are not putting yourself in the best light here.
You have mentioned that 'even nice young and good looking' clients are paying your rates, which suggests that people who do not fit into that category will not get the same price or service from you - which is a sure sign of a bad provider, and I would assume that many clients do NOT fit in that category who read this will be disinclined to hire you. so great job there!
Just state your price and if it doesn't fit the clients budget, wish them well in their search. Arguing here like this is not making you, or us, look good.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + claym in *Deposit, nudes, and sexting
The correlation of people who are polite but refuse to send a minimal deposit, exactly matches the amount of people who cancel last minute or even just ghost at the time of the appointment.
How does that waste our time? Well, it wastes our time not only with the administrative planning, but cleaning our apartments, putting on new bed sheets and towels, showering, douching, taking viagra, shaving, traveling to you hotel or building - all of the general prep that we do before the actual meeting.
That's not taking into account the amount of texting we have done with these polite people, and not taking into account any other appointments we may have turned down because we thought you would arrive because you are so polite, or personal plans that we have worked our day around in terms of our other jobs, school classes, etc.
I haven't seen a dramatic drop since I insisted on a nominal deposit for bookings from people I have not yet met - but I have seen a dramatic drop in cancelations. only three this year, it used to be nearly 3 a week. Being polite on its own has not proven to be evidence of genuineness. Only deposits can do that.
You have mentioned that you are new to the hobby, welcome! I would encourage SMALL deposits if you can allow, and only to providers who are well reviewed on rentmen, as well as here. For a decent provider, it wont be about the amount, it is just a way for us to ascertain that you are as committed as we are. Words are cheap. Do whatever you are comfortable with.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from BSR in Is anyone else noticing a drop in escort pricing?
This is true for me - I charged less, and under market rates when I started.
It wasn't until I did a booking with another provider who was more experienced and objectively much better looking than I, and as we left we walked and talked for a bit. When he learned I had been paid 150 less than him he took the money out of his wallet and gave me some of his money to make it so we both earned the same amount for the job and said "don't charge less than market rate. you ARE good looking enough. I have seen you work, you are worth it."
I explained I thought I would also get less clients, and he said "Yes, you may lose some clients, but the ones who scrimp and bargain are always the worst clients anyway. And the amount extra you get by charging the market rate will make up for it."
I took his advice and I have found it to be sound.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Loseer2 in Preferred Payment cash/App/transfer method?
yeah I have had friends have charges reversed on the apps after the booking was done. I am lucky that that has not yet happened to me.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Loseer2 in Preferred Payment cash/App/transfer method?
as a provider: I prefer cash. There are always ATMs and banks around.
The alternative that I offer is cashapp, which is complete anonymous and you can put any name on it, or Venmo which I was able to set up with my work alias.
All three of these methods provide discretion for me and for my clients.
Zelle, PayPal, Apple Pay - it all shows full names, and I don't want your name on my bank statement and visa versa.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Question for providers about when does service begin
For me - the service begins when I have confirmation that you are real client and not a scammer or time waster. That is that you have sent a deposit, or a premium member of rentmen, or I have met you before.
If we have booked in advance and I may send messages touching base, to keep engagement and ensure the booking goes ahead.
If we have already met - some times I message my regulars for the same reason - keeping that relationship engaged and staying in their mind. I also maintain a friendly relationship with them.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Truance in Question to other providers…
There are screening mechanisms you will need to put in place. here is some advice -
1. Reach out to an older provider who is well reviewed and been working for a few years and ask for drinks or chat for mentorship.
2. Use Mr.Number. There are some POS providers who have left bad reviews for their good clients in order to keep them to themselves, so if someone only has one or two reviews saying 'time waster' or 'cop', I still communicate with them - however, proceed with caution. If they have many reviews you know just ignore or block.
3. You have plenty of photos/videos on your page. A request for more is a huge red flag. A request for FaceTime is also a red flag - but if you do one, make it not more than 60 seconds to say hello, show you are real, end of call.
4. no phone calls. rarely has anyone called actually made a booking - they are 99 times out of 100 just jerking off.
5. Controversial on here as there ARE Nigerian scammers with RM accounts - but if they want advance bookings - great! but ask for small deposit. If they are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a session with you, they should have no problem sending $50 to lock down a time. if they are concerned about Venmo/cashapp/amazon gift card, tell them to do same day appointment with no deposit - just reach out on the day.
Do not let posters here turn you off this - You have proven yourself to be real - until you meet someone who has reached out, they are just a phone number. You have been jerked around enough now to know that people do this to sex workers because they get off on it. Most, not all, but most people posting here don't fully understand that because they are legit clients and can't imagine people doing it to us - you know they do.
6. There are people who use rentmen as an interactive porno site - they jerk off to our pics/videos and interact with us while doing so adding to the fantasy. They are fulfilled by that alone, they do not need to make a booking to be satisfied. Keep this in mind when people reach out. Be friendly but do not play into it. If they are engaging in too much sex talk, cut it. It's a fine line between them asking if you are down to do whatever scene they want to, and them just milking you for content - but you will soon learn where the line is. "I prefer not to engage in to much sex talk, I have gotten a good idea of what you want and I think we will get along well - so let's save it for when we meet". if they cut off off communication after that - you know why.
7. if they message saying they want a 3 hour booking - they are fake. In all my years of full time sex work, I have never had anyone do a 3 hour booking. 2 hours and extended - yes. But three hours up front - no. Be wary of people who are asking for long bookings first, straight up. They do exits, just be wary.
8. never go to apartment or hotel without apartment number or room number.
Good Luck.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Truance in Question for providers about when does service begin
For me - the service begins when I have confirmation that you are real client and not a scammer or time waster. That is that you have sent a deposit, or a premium member of rentmen, or I have met you before.
If we have booked in advance and I may send messages touching base, to keep engagement and ensure the booking goes ahead.
If we have already met - some times I message my regulars for the same reason - keeping that relationship engaged and staying in their mind. I also maintain a friendly relationship with them.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Obsidian in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client.
Advertising research suggests that when someone has viewed a webpage only business 10 times, this is the most likely time that would convert to a sale. SO going over this by ten times the amount shows it is never going to happen.
I would feel annoyed. How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from soloyo215 in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
100% strange which is why I sense he is not telling the full story.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Luv2play in Question To Providers & Clients About Companionship
Because in your OP you are suggesting that providers should give clients their time for "relatively free".
I don't know how long you have been in the game, but 'companionship only' time is quite often more strenuous than a sexual event. it can be very taxing. After posting this, clients will be reaching out to providers and saying "well you should be spending all night with me because I hired you for one hour for sex and now I want someone to go to dinner with, and a walk through the park with etc etc. and Elite said it should be free."
I charge for my time, and what we do in that time is up to the client. My hourly rate decreases for longer bookings.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Luv2play in Is anyone else noticing a drop in escort pricing?
you are not speaking for all escorts and you are not putting yourself in the best light here.
You have mentioned that 'even nice young and good looking' clients are paying your rates, which suggests that people who do not fit into that category will not get the same price or service from you - which is a sure sign of a bad provider, and I would assume that many clients do NOT fit in that category who read this will be disinclined to hire you. so great job there!
Just state your price and if it doesn't fit the clients budget, wish them well in their search. Arguing here like this is not making you, or us, look good.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
don't ask questions if you don't want an answer. I am telling you: it's annoying.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client.
Advertising research suggests that when someone has viewed a webpage only business 10 times, this is the most likely time that would convert to a sale. SO going over this by ten times the amount shows it is never going to happen.
I would feel annoyed. How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
I would never see a client who leaves providers 4 star reviews. bad reviews are fine - I have never got a one star review, but I imagine they only are given out when warranted.
But if someone was leaving 4 star reviews, it massively and disproportionately impacts my business - it brings down the average rating and takes YEARS to build back up. a lot of people search and see only 5 star reviewed providers. Leaving a 4 star review is really damaging and shows you to be an overly fussy client who would be hard to please.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
I block people I have not met if they view my profile 100s of times and never book. And I also block people who reach out three times and don't book.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from mrkileen in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
don't ask questions if you don't want an answer. I am telling you: it's annoying.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from mrkileen in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client.
Advertising research suggests that when someone has viewed a webpage only business 10 times, this is the most likely time that would convert to a sale. SO going over this by ten times the amount shows it is never going to happen.
I would feel annoyed. How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu.