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SecretProvider reacted to + ApexNomad in *RM users* How important is having a number there for you?
It doesn’t bother me, but once things move toward scheduling, I prefer to exchange numbers so we have a reliable point of contact for any day of situations.
Current photos matter more. Many of yours are 12–14 years old, and that’s a bigger issue than not having a phone number.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in Experiencea hiring as a fat man?
this is fantastic advice - for anyone, no matter their size.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from TJMS in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
it appears you lack comprehension skills as well as manners John Wayne Gacy. I don't actually need too, but here we go - I said of course you would come and applaud that behavior and commenting. I never said you wrote those things yourself- THIS TIME.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from TJMS in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
To the surprise of absolutely NO ONE you come out to delight in saying gross things about people from behind your keyboard in your dank basement. Perfect example of someone who has absolutely nothing going for them in life and they get off on talking shit about guys who would never look twice at them. Pigs like to roll in shit.
No one has a problem with people expressing opinions. Where did anyone say you can't express an opinion? No one is shaming anyone for not liking the guy - but to say someone is worthless is shameful and deserves to be ridiculed. You should be embarrassed to talk like that. And if you had decency, you would be.
The culture has moved on John Wayne Gacy and you haven't got with the program yet - the way people were commenting was vile and an unacceptable way to behave these days.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
it appears you lack comprehension skills as well as manners John Wayne Gacy. I don't actually need too, but here we go - I said of course you would come and applaud that behavior and commenting. I never said you wrote those things yourself- THIS TIME.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
To the surprise of absolutely NO ONE you come out to delight in saying gross things about people from behind your keyboard in your dank basement. Perfect example of someone who has absolutely nothing going for them in life and they get off on talking shit about guys who would never look twice at them. Pigs like to roll in shit.
No one has a problem with people expressing opinions. Where did anyone say you can't express an opinion? No one is shaming anyone for not liking the guy - but to say someone is worthless is shameful and deserves to be ridiculed. You should be embarrassed to talk like that. And if you had decency, you would be.
The culture has moved on John Wayne Gacy and you haven't got with the program yet - the way people were commenting was vile and an unacceptable way to behave these days.
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SecretProvider reacted to pubic_assistance in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Absolutely 💯
I am often baffled at the craving commentary here over people who I wouldn't fuck even if THEY offered to PAY ME !
In this case....I agree the six bucks comment was rather a purely personal perspective rather than a general. The $600 price tag is very generally unrealistic as @marylander1940 notes.
To me...the kid is young, fit and fresh with a nice ass...so although hardly a $600 pornstar, I can certainly see why some people might find him attractive. He'd certainly do better in the normal $200 to $300 range but seems to be over-market in his ask, thinking he can leverage that barely legal bad-boy look he seems to be promoting.
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SecretProvider reacted to wsc in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
It's been said that nobody is everyone's type and everyone is somebody's type.
I've seen escorts on this site that I don't find at all attractive and would not engage with for any price, but that others here rave about how beautiful they are. To each his own.
And I can be as snarky as the best of them -or worst of them- but not to someone's face. Perhaps I should be ashamed of that, but I do sometimes like to generate a laugh, just not at the price of hurting someone.
To post some of the comments and observations seen here, in a place where the subject of said comments could easily see them and perhaps be hurt by them, is unnecessary, unkind, and unrestrained.
Grow some sensitivities, and better manners.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from pubic_assistance in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Ebori - My dude when you read this forum, don't stress or feel bad.
You are 21, you have a great body, beautiful eyes, a head full of hair. You are very sexy and most of these guys commenting are lurkers who have absolutely nothing going for them in life and they get off on talking shit about guys who would never look twice at them.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from TBD in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Ebori - My dude when you read this forum, don't stress or feel bad.
You are 21, you have a great body, beautiful eyes, a head full of hair. You are very sexy and most of these guys commenting are lurkers who have absolutely nothing going for them in life and they get off on talking shit about guys who would never look twice at them.
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SecretProvider reacted to Coloradoguy in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Right? I wouldn’t pay 6 bucks for this guy
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SecretProvider reacted to Other Mouse in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
I can see how you might think it’s funny, but you should know that some people, including me, see it as cruel.
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SecretProvider reacted to + FrankR in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
So instead of taking the time to educate this young man “That is more than I usually offer” you choose to be a smartass? Stop making me feel like the adult in the room - I am not old enough for that!
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + BOZO T CLOWN in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Ebori - My dude when you read this forum, don't stress or feel bad.
You are 21, you have a great body, beautiful eyes, a head full of hair. You are very sexy and most of these guys commenting are lurkers who have absolutely nothing going for them in life and they get off on talking shit about guys who would never look twice at them.
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SecretProvider reacted to Tandy Newton in *Hot but EXPENSIVE!!
Man, talk about beauty only being in the eyes of the beholder.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from Truance in BrandinHawk from Austin
This is very accurate. Many people contact via rentmen asking for massage only, sometimes they may only want a sensual massage, or they are scared about writing down what they REALLY want, which is completely understandable (although frustrating at times) A lot of clients are nervous full stop.
Then there is a particular type of client that deliberately asks for massage only prices, but then try to receive full service upon meeting. (I always make it clear of the price structure before hand to avoid this)
I fear the OP was offended when full service was not on the menu for the massage rate. Often rentmen are happy to upscale the session to full service rate when the client is comfortable (dick is rock hard) and asks for the next level. But by asking for massage only - it does also leave room for the provider to say "no this is massage only." And in cases where hygiene is an issue, well often the clients that have these issues are oblivious to it.
The OP has left 6 contributions to the forums so far, 3 of which have ranged between completely negative to somewhat negative- and all mention MASSAGE ("great massage but not consistent" "i was 15 min late so we went straight to bed no massage and no offer to extend time" "airbnb was small") To me these comments indicate a client who is overly critical and extremely fussy, Like someone who posts bad yelp reviews when a restaurant makes them wait 5min for a table or doesn't refill the water quick enough.
The only way we will know the truth is if the provider or client chooses to post a screenshot of MASSAGE ONLY discussion which i encourage either to do - [whilst redacting identifying numbers/screen names of course and staying within forum rules]
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + SidewaysDM in BrandinHawk from Austin
read again.
I think you are missing the vital word of "AND" in my sentence. The word AND is added to show that I was describing a THE MIXTURE OF ALL THREE SMELLS. My bad if that was not clear. 🤮 Next time you are sucking someone off who hasn't wiped their ass properly and been sweating all day, get back to me and let me know how much you enjoyed it. It is very different from sucking a nice fresh clean one, I assure you.
I'm sorry someone has had to explain how to wash yourself properly as a way of good manners before you are going to be intimate with them. Like I said, it is difficult to do without offending. My apologues you are offended by this.
But I can answer your question about what I hope my clients do before a full escort session = showering as described above, with the additional step of douching. I certainly do, but I also wear deodorant, cologne, moisturize, put product in my hair, shave, add fresh bed sheets and towels, and tidy the apartment/hotel if I am hosting.
You sound like someone who doesn't wipe their ass properly - god knows why else you would be defending this behavior. Madness. I hope you brush your teeth daily.
I am actually shocked that it seems controversial to arrive properly cleaned to a session where you are going to be intimate with someone. The push back here is baffling. But once again - some guys are oblivious.
Please shower throughly beforehand people, your provider will thank you and you will have a better experience as a result. What a crazy thing to have to explain to people. Sigh.
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SecretProvider reacted to DFdub in BrandinHawk from Austin
Your posution sounds quite ridiculous. SecretProvider described that "the guy asked for a blowjob and I could smell fresh shit" and you keep describing it as not an intimate massage and that he did a "rigid physical exam"... good grief.
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SecretProvider reacted to DFdub in BrandinHawk from Austin
Isn't what he described the BASIC definition of a shower? Maybe not the repeat if you can, but everything the first pass through is simply called "a shower" if you want to be considered actually clean. 😅
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in BrandinHawk from Austin
This is very accurate. Many people contact via rentmen asking for massage only, sometimes they may only want a sensual massage, or they are scared about writing down what they REALLY want, which is completely understandable (although frustrating at times) A lot of clients are nervous full stop.
Then there is a particular type of client that deliberately asks for massage only prices, but then try to receive full service upon meeting. (I always make it clear of the price structure before hand to avoid this)
I fear the OP was offended when full service was not on the menu for the massage rate. Often rentmen are happy to upscale the session to full service rate when the client is comfortable (dick is rock hard) and asks for the next level. But by asking for massage only - it does also leave room for the provider to say "no this is massage only." And in cases where hygiene is an issue, well often the clients that have these issues are oblivious to it.
The OP has left 6 contributions to the forums so far, 3 of which have ranged between completely negative to somewhat negative- and all mention MASSAGE ("great massage but not consistent" "i was 15 min late so we went straight to bed no massage and no offer to extend time" "airbnb was small") To me these comments indicate a client who is overly critical and extremely fussy, Like someone who posts bad yelp reviews when a restaurant makes them wait 5min for a table or doesn't refill the water quick enough.
The only way we will know the truth is if the provider or client chooses to post a screenshot of MASSAGE ONLY discussion which i encourage either to do - [whilst redacting identifying numbers/screen names of course and staying within forum rules]
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in BrandinHawk from Austin
read again.
I think you are missing the vital word of "AND" in my sentence. The word AND is added to show that I was describing a THE MIXTURE OF ALL THREE SMELLS. My bad if that was not clear. 🤮 Next time you are sucking someone off who hasn't wiped their ass properly and been sweating all day, get back to me and let me know how much you enjoyed it. It is very different from sucking a nice fresh clean one, I assure you.
I'm sorry someone has had to explain how to wash yourself properly as a way of good manners before you are going to be intimate with them. Like I said, it is difficult to do without offending. My apologues you are offended by this.
But I can answer your question about what I hope my clients do before a full escort session = showering as described above, with the additional step of douching. I certainly do, but I also wear deodorant, cologne, moisturize, put product in my hair, shave, add fresh bed sheets and towels, and tidy the apartment/hotel if I am hosting.
You sound like someone who doesn't wipe their ass properly - god knows why else you would be defending this behavior. Madness. I hope you brush your teeth daily.
I am actually shocked that it seems controversial to arrive properly cleaned to a session where you are going to be intimate with someone. The push back here is baffling. But once again - some guys are oblivious.
Please shower throughly beforehand people, your provider will thank you and you will have a better experience as a result. What a crazy thing to have to explain to people. Sigh.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in BrandinHawk from Austin
so how much washing is required? fully soaped up ALL areas of body, including under arms, under balls, inside ass crack, around or even a little inside your hole, fully cover your cock and pull back foreskin if you have one, rinse all water off. Repeat if you can. then fully dry off. ideally brush teeth or at least gargle some mouthwash to freshen up if you are wanting kissing. You should wash yourself with vigor and be overly thorough. Treat it as if someone is about to inspect every inch of your body - which is generally what happens in a massage! Not just a quick rinse of water over your back or some water splashed on your face.
Just because the client showered, does not mean he has done so properly. Not everyone has the awareness of hygiene, and it is really awkward and difficult to tell someone without offending.
True Story - I offered a gentleman to have a shower when he arrived dripping with sweat and B.O and he said "i showered this morning." I said, "well I had one 10 minutes before you arrived, why don't you have another one now and freshen up - don't worry about the time it takes to be all clean, the session will not start until you are out of the bathroom." A normal person would read between the lines and go and throughly clean themselves, but this guy was in and out in probably under a minute. During the session he wanted me to suck him off and when I went down there I had to cut the session and say 'look we need a break, I need you to go back and really take your time cleaning up and washing everything down there, ok?' he replied "but why?" like I said earlier - OBLIVIOUS. I don't know if he wasn't wiping his ass properly or not, but the smell of shit, ball sweat and pre-cum is not a pleasant aroma for the best of us. The second time he went in the shower for maybe 2 minutes. Clearly not clean. I said, 'no no, let me come in with you' and had to wash him down myself.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from astro in A Group of Men Hiring One or Two Providers
Some do, some don't. Some charge slightly more, some charge a per person rate.
Even when you charge more for couples, it usually still works out to a discounted per-person rate. For example, a standard rate of $400 pre hour or $500 for couples comes to $250 each, rather than $400 each - hence why I said it's "effectively half the rate". Some providers don't charge extra at all but in my experience, very few actually price two clients session at double the standard rate.
When I did the big group session, I was paid my regular overnight fee, and could go once the play stopped.
Just reach out to a provider who you think would be down for it and see what magic happens!
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SecretProvider got a reaction from jayjaycali in A Group of Men Hiring One or Two Providers
I have had a few different types of experiences and it either goes really well, or really bad.
Bad first - Two friends (I think they actually met via craiglists or a forum like this) and the decided to go halves and hire a guy to share as they both enjoyed being dom. The problem arose when they realized they both had completely differing ideas of what "being dominant" meant for each of them and had no chemistry together. It ended up being very difficult for me, trying to please them simultaneously. I ended up having to treat them separately. Like - you first, then you second. The result was they both got a half hour session for about half the rate of a full hour (since they effectively split the bill) but they had to tolerate each other during it. It as clear they never knew each other and had only met that day, right then. It was a disaster.
Good next - a group of guys that had played together before were having a party (more like a get together) and had me over to service them. It was a lot more relaxed despite there being many more guys. They were able to mingle and chill with each other when my hands were full. They all knew they were getting a turn, so there was no rush, no jealousy, no competition. The nights always ended up fantastic, and I always stayed way longer than planned or paid.
The key for these things being successful is having all participants on the same page (prior relationships ideal) - not 'lets save money and all share one guy'.
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SecretProvider got a reaction from + Pensant in What we look like - Why does it matter so much now?
I ask clients to tell me about themselves, but that is more for ice breaking and so I am aware of what I am getting into. While a photo is appreciated, for me it's never required. That said, it irritates me when I arrive and I am greeted with someone who is 500lbs or has a Santa Claus type beard. Once I arrived and the client was in a wheelchair. Not that I wouldn't see them , but I need to mentally prepare.
Those that require pics are new to the game, and/or concerned they will not be able to perform. Doesn't mean they are bad providers, it does take time to cultivate the skill and it can initially be quite jarring to be intimate with someone you are not physically attracted to.
snapchat/whatsapp/instagram are good for being able to send disappearing messages but a good quality provider will not ask for pics. A good confident client will send them anyway.