GentJ

Nope. Serious ones know the rate is the rate.

Agreed 💯 which is why I now only hire those who clearly care about actually making their clients happy, building their stable and continually upping their game. I’m so impressed with my current master and how he has realized his original commitment to continuous improvement over the past few years which is why I stick with him consistently now and am grateful to have him.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

100% true.  The guys I hire over again treat me like a VIP.  Better every session!
Treat them well and you get it back 10 fold.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘
But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

I always assume people reach out to a few providers initially. Once we are in a two-way conversation, it's a little different. Hopefully clients aren't asking 3 different guys to come at the same time and then ghosting two of them 🤨

Is this question about whether tipping will make an escort more likely to keep you on as a client?
Skip the tip, hire me a third time!
I think we'd all rather have a client who hires us more often than a tip.
 

I always assume people reach out to a few providers initially. Once we are in a two-way conversation, it's a little different. Hopefully clients aren't asking 3 different guys to come at the same time and then ghosting two of them 🤨

I always assume people reach out to a few providers initially. Once we are in a two-way conversation, it's a little different. Hopefully clients aren't asking 3 different guys to come at the same time and then ghosting two of them 🤨

It depends. Not more than 24 hours. 

If I have not had a response within 24 hours, I move on.

How is this going? 

Thanks! Yes, it's been fun having that small business owner experience! Stay tuned for the OF!!

We’ve all done it to one degree or another. Don’t beat yourself up about it, but do learn from your mistakes.
Feelings are ok. Losing grip on reality is not. It’s a fantasy. Nothing more, nothing less.
You have always been and will always be wrong when you think "a mutual thing" is developing. 
This really shouldn’t be a newsflash for you. Still, don’t let it ruin your fun. Learn to enjoy the fantasy.
What rooms? Where? Are you stalking him?
I hope I’m misreading this statement because it sounds creepy and unhealthy as fuck. 

 
You need to remember that this is a "hobby". It’s not real life. Don’t let your heart get involved. If you start developing real feelings for a provider, I suggest you disclose that to them immediately. Then stop seeing them. He may be fond of you. He may even "like" you. But in the words of Avenue Q, he doesn’t "like you, like you, like you like him". I know it hurts, and yes most if not all of us have had to go through the difficult phase you’re going through right now. The good news is, if you can learn to navigate it and stay in control of your emotions, this hobby can be damn fun. Like REAL fun. But if you need or want love, look somewhere else. You’re fishing in the wrong pond. 

Sure, shit happens in any business. But with any business, leads need to be qualified. A bad actor can waste so much time, that that hourly rate you just mentioned would skyrocket if there wasn't SOME way of weeding out the abusers. That's where Ubers and small deposits come in. Beyond that, how can we really tell the scammers from the real clients? I'm not sure clients on this forum really comprehend the scale of the fake clients. It's like 40%-60% of all the incoming messages I get. Imagine how high the 'factored in rate' for LEGIT clients would have to be if 40% of messages were allowed to play out all their antics.

Sure, shit happens in any business. But with any business, leads need to be qualified. A bad actor can waste so much time, that that hourly rate you just mentioned would skyrocket if there wasn't SOME way of weeding out the abusers. That's where Ubers and small deposits come in. Beyond that, how can we really tell the scammers from the real clients? I'm not sure clients on this forum really comprehend the scale of the fake clients. It's like 40%-60% of all the incoming messages I get. Imagine how high the 'factored in rate' for LEGIT clients would have to be if 40% of messages were allowed to play out all their antics.

Sure, shit happens in any business. But with any business, leads need to be qualified. A bad actor can waste so much time, that that hourly rate you just mentioned would skyrocket if there wasn't SOME way of weeding out the abusers. That's where Ubers and small deposits come in. Beyond that, how can we really tell the scammers from the real clients? I'm not sure clients on this forum really comprehend the scale of the fake clients. It's like 40%-60% of all the incoming messages I get. Imagine how high the 'factored in rate' for LEGIT clients would have to be if 40% of messages were allowed to play out all their antics.

This is why for the past few years, I require a deposit good towards the session and have an option and nominal “consultation” if they want to talk to me beyond the essential details. I’ve tried to go back to the “old days”, but kept reverting back and now it’s a natural part of my meetup process. My patience dealing with flakes is best managed by limiting the amount of guys who can book without any upfront confirmation.
Plus, the gay escort “scene” has been in decline: despite there being more guys, there seems to be less guys serious about booking anymore like they were 10-15 years ago. Thank hookup apps and fewer access to sites. But even then flakes have always been an issue. Just back then, PayPal, Apple Pay and cash app have made it easier than ever to incorporate.
Regardless of what anyone says about deposits: there’s too many crazies and flakes out there, cat fish, guys who want to wind up the competition, etc etc. And for every 1 bad story a client has about getting scammed, we could probably name 50. 
 
Also, in-calls can typically be the ones that don’t follow thru the most. I don’t host from home anymore, I haven’t for over a year now. So there’s no way I’m going to front hotel costs without a deposit. The clients who are uncertain about a deposit, will usually book a room for our session instead, in which case I may see them at my discretion…which includes verifying room number and attendance.
However when it comes to regular hookups outside of biz: it’s a different playing field. They’re more likely to be or show up to the meet. I think when money is involved, it comes with a different attitude.

I'm hoping to work my way up to at least ShakeShack! 🤣
But that's sort of what I'm saying about these Platinum guys... They're going for volume. They're definitely not The French Laundry.

Really?