Drew Collins

I think you dodged a bullet. Prices should be clear, but if there’s a mistake and you asked for clarification and got a response like that then that tells me he’s probably not the kind of guy you’d want to see. 

Still figuring out how to do all the intelligence that more seasoned members here do.  What a great service we are doing for each other.  

Turns out he has some amazing videos on Twitter/X.

I have the money, but I want value.
Don't see value in $260-$350 massages, even with MT/HE.

@NyGoldI've been hiring masseurs for more than half my life now.  (I just turned 50.)  Mostly in NYC and Los Angeles, where I have often seen providers, and have been seen, out and about.  I do not think you did anything wrong.  IMO, discretion should be the general rule, unless otherwise mutually agreed upon.  As @poolboy48220above posted, perhaps a nod or a small smile of acknowledgement would have been ideal.  But after your follow up text apology and explanation....the provider blocking you says more about him than it does you.
 

He's a name changer. Don't remember his previous profile name(s) but there is definitely a thread or more of chats about him. 

@NyGoldI've been hiring masseurs for more than half my life now.  (I just turned 50.)  Mostly in NYC and Los Angeles, where I have often seen providers, and have been seen, out and about.  I do not think you did anything wrong.  IMO, discretion should be the general rule, unless otherwise mutually agreed upon.  As @poolboy48220above posted, perhaps a nod or a small smile of acknowledgement would have been ideal.  But after your follow up text apology and explanation....the provider blocking you says more about him than it does you.
 

@NyGoldI've been hiring masseurs for more than half my life now.  (I just turned 50.)  Mostly in NYC and Los Angeles, where I have often seen providers, and have been seen, out and about.  I do not think you did anything wrong.  IMO, discretion should be the general rule, unless otherwise mutually agreed upon.  As @poolboy48220above posted, perhaps a nod or a small smile of acknowledgement would have been ideal.  But after your follow up text apology and explanation....the provider blocking you says more about him than it does you.
 

@NyGoldI've been hiring masseurs for more than half my life now.  (I just turned 50.)  Mostly in NYC and Los Angeles, where I have often seen providers, and have been seen, out and about.  I do not think you did anything wrong.  IMO, discretion should be the general rule, unless otherwise mutually agreed upon.  As @poolboy48220above posted, perhaps a nod or a small smile of acknowledgement would have been ideal.  But after your follow up text apology and explanation....the provider blocking you says more about him than it does you.
 

@NyGoldI've been hiring masseurs for more than half my life now.  (I just turned 50.)  Mostly in NYC and Los Angeles, where I have often seen providers, and have been seen, out and about.  I do not think you did anything wrong.  IMO, discretion should be the general rule, unless otherwise mutually agreed upon.  As @poolboy48220above posted, perhaps a nod or a small smile of acknowledgement would have been ideal.  But after your follow up text apology and explanation....the provider blocking you says more about him than it does you.
 

I have my views,  others have theirs.    It is healthful conversation and I like to hear what others have to say.  Pretty simple.

YOUNG COLTON HAYNES!   🥵

YOUNG COLTON HAYNES!   🥵

I've seen those pics before.  Maybe a "name change".....?

Gotta love a dude who does his homework!

Yeah what makes a masseur submissive? I ask because I have met some in LA who are okay that I jerk them off, and edge them, and not release until I say so. I’m not much of a dom or daddy type, but I enjoy it when masseurs let me do that to them. 

When he asks, "Sir, I think you have it wrong. I'm supposed to pay prone on the table, and allow you to take control and do as you see fit, Daddy" 

Deli masseur!

That’s a picture worth a million memories. 

Picture it....Christopher Street, West Village, NYC. 1994.
 
21 year old me, and new to the "big gay city."
 
One evening, while getting my hair cut, I noticed the salon also offered massage. I decided to give it a try and scheduled an appointment for the following weekend afternoon. I think it was a Sunday. I arrived and was introduced to my therapist. I wish I could remember his name, but OH MY GOD was he handsome! Tall. Athletically muscular. From Central America somewhere, Belize I think?
 
The room was small, and in the basement. Lit only by candlelight. I removed my clothes and covered myself with a towel. I distinctly remembering it being a dark green. The massage was great; I had experienced one or two professional ones before, spa-quality and completely nonsexual atmospheres, etc. With this one I got aroused and quite hard during some work on my butt and inner thigh, but rolled over at the appropriate time. The masseur re-adjusted my towel and the massage continued. My erection subsided completely until he began to massage my abs. In a circular motion, small circles and then larger. Going as low on my body as he could, until my erection got in the way. Then he would work around my cock. He bent down and whispered in my ear, "Just breathe, and let go." I was in ecstasy. I could feel an orgasm building. He spent a good 5-6 minutes just on my abs, varying the pressure, touch, and speed of motion, and eliciting various moans from me.
 
And he got me off, without ever touching my cock.
 
Every time the same ending, every massage, over the course of a few years.
 
No one has been able to replicate his touch. Not professionals, not amateurs, not partners.
 
As far as I am concerned, that man's touch was magic.
 
And I'm very sorry I lost track of him.

Picture it....Christopher Street, West Village, NYC. 1994.
 
21 year old me, and new to the "big gay city."
 
One evening, while getting my hair cut, I noticed the salon also offered massage. I decided to give it a try and scheduled an appointment for the following weekend afternoon. I think it was a Sunday. I arrived and was introduced to my therapist. I wish I could remember his name, but OH MY GOD was he handsome! Tall. Athletically muscular. From Central America somewhere, Belize I think?
 
The room was small, and in the basement. Lit only by candlelight. I removed my clothes and covered myself with a towel. I distinctly remembering it being a dark green. The massage was great; I had experienced one or two professional ones before, spa-quality and completely nonsexual atmospheres, etc. With this one I got aroused and quite hard during some work on my butt and inner thigh, but rolled over at the appropriate time. The masseur re-adjusted my towel and the massage continued. My erection subsided completely until he began to massage my abs. In a circular motion, small circles and then larger. Going as low on my body as he could, until my erection got in the way. Then he would work around my cock. He bent down and whispered in my ear, "Just breathe, and let go." I was in ecstasy. I could feel an orgasm building. He spent a good 5-6 minutes just on my abs, varying the pressure, touch, and speed of motion, and eliciting various moans from me.
 
And he got me off, without ever touching my cock.
 
Every time the same ending, every massage, over the course of a few years.
 
No one has been able to replicate his touch. Not professionals, not amateurs, not partners.
 
As far as I am concerned, that man's touch was magic.
 
And I'm very sorry I lost track of him.

Many masseurs are vague deliberately. They don’t open the door for more than a massage until after they see you naked on the table. It could be, that about a third of clients are appealing enough to the provider to receive “other” 
No substitute for chemistry, is there? 
If you want to guarantee MT and HE (and Other) for you, hire an escort. 

Fellas, this isn’t a real request. We should avoid entertaining this guy with too much effort.