Johnrom

I've done it twice that I can think of.  Once a masseur walked to my hotel in the summer and said he'd like to shower before we started, I offered to join him and some playful fondling while we showered.  The other offered some sort of scrub in the shower, which felt great, especially when he finished rinsing me off and started sucking my cock. 

The first time he and I interacted, he asked me if I wanted anything specific or should he just do his thing.  I asked him what his thing was, he explained (and it did include everything) and I agreed to his thing.
I won't argue the guy has a strong libido...I see him every month and experience it!  But he's also a super sweet guy, so you just need to communicate to him if something isn't OK.  He never forcefully made me do anything.  I can see getting caught up in his hotness, but that's not his fault if you don't tell him to stop.

Wow.  I had that same experience.  My first time he went way too far and I was in shock but my hormones were doing the talking at that point.  
 
Hope you’re doing okay.   

So true.  I have a provider I have been seeing for a year..a hire from Rent Masseur.   What started as a massage session has evolved into something way more than I bet many escorts provide.  It's almost like an out of body experience it's so good...and gets better every time.  
After the session is over, we can relax and talk about what's going on in our lives and other stuff. We are very different people in our personal lives, but that doesn't mean we can't be friends.  I have much respect and appreciation for him because I was nervous as can be with my first hire, and he is as sexy as they come, and he has always treated me wonderfully.
If he ever gives up or leaves the area, he would be greatly missed.  

That's what I was driving at when I used that word.  I'm on friendly terms with a couple of the guys I hire.  
We text, talk about life and family.  Just overall niceness to each other. 

There are all kinds of relationships in life.
Some of my most enjoyable, are with people whom I have done business for many years and we ended up with a close friendship.
There are several masseurs who moved on to other careers thst I keep in touch with, just to say I am happy for them and how I enjoyed our time together, and wishing them well in their future.
One is now a fashion designer, another is a nurse and another has become a rather successful TV actor. Happy for all of them, because we did have a pleasant friendly "relationship" beyond the hour or two spent on the table.

I second this opinion.
I have definitely gotten more and more intimate over time with various masseurs, who were regulars and who I tipped well after every massage. The levels of intimacy were always at THEIR discretion. Never requested.
On the other hand there were one or two, who I've seen a few times and the happy ending always stayed in tact as nothing more than a hand job and some naked eye candy.
Everyone has a different business model with erotic massage.
I know one of the fellows I've seen regularly was an escort in his younger days...so not at all opposed to the idea. Just not what he does NOW.

So I just left the session and it did change.  The routine was the same up to the HE part where his shorts were down.  He was again sporting a rock hard boner.  This time I stroked that, but I also massaged his biceps a bit which he seemed cool with, then I reached under the shirt and massaged his stomach and nipples, again seemed ok.  So I put my hand on his hip and slightly tugged towards me and before you know it, I had something in my mouth.  We both had near simultaneous finishes.  Was a fantastic day!

That's good. Being aggressive and greedy is a surefire way to kill the future. I find gentle, respectful conversation to be very helpful. Guys who are good at massage tend to be sensitive men. They will appreciate you being vulnerable, and they will most likely be honest in return. Asking about escorting is an easy way to get a sense of where he stands. Money can be a great motivator, but some guys won't cross certain boundaries even for that. Whatever you do, don't disrupt what you have. It's very rare, and good things don't last forever.

I use one of those U-shaped travel pillows.  It ain't perfect, but it works in a pinch.

My advice is - hire someone with plenty of reviews, someone who does NOT do PNP.
 
Secondly, give as much information about what it is you want. although providers are very experienced in the field, they are not mind readers - the more you tell them about what you want, what you don like - the better your experience will be!  I think this is even more vital in circumstances where you are wanting him to be aggressive with you - for eg. what do you mean by aggressive? do you want to be thrown around, slapped? hair pulled? spat on?  spanked? or just bossed around verbally - tell him what are you limits, as well as your desires. 
 
The more open and honest you are, the more likely you will get what you want.  I would be shocked if you are asking for something they haven't already heard! 
 
ENJOY!!!!!

for providers - serious question, how do you take care of your sexual health with the current standard of unprotected sex ?  I’m not talking about hiv because that’s almost irrelevant w Prep and most positive gay men on meds.  But that leaves a lot of STIs that can still cause major problems/discomfort.
for me, condoms aren’t a moral question or decision but rather a practical one.  I just don’t want to spend unnecessary time going to the doctor, testing & then meds if I should be exposed to an sti.  
i can remember a phone call from a provider years ago saying he had an sti and I should go get tested.  I appreciated the call & sure enough - I had it too.  Ever since then it’s been condoms for me - it just seems that mixing with so many people it would be statistically difficult to manage sexual health.
Im wondering how working providers who routinely engage in unprotected sex w multiple partners can stay healthy ?   Most guys say they are tested every 2-3 months, but is that even enough ?
My understanding of DoxyPep is that it’s useful after occasional unprotected sex, but not meant as a routine - maybe I’m misinformed on that - and that really only treats Chlamydia & Syphilis, not gonorrhea and all the others.
if the providers have any tricks of the trade used to mitigate, I’d like to know that.  And is there any sort of discreet visual inspection that can be done of potential partners ?  do providers ever decline clients if something doesn’t look right ?
I don’t think anyone actually likes condoms - some people are just more risk averse than others.  And almost nobody discusses or acknowledges contracting an STI.  Honestly, this is my biggest hangup about sex.  
My sense is established professional providers are more on top of their sexual health than the average person - just another reason why I avoid the apps and prefer paid encounters.  
I’ve found almost nobody wants to discuss this subject in personal terms - it’s always in the abstract and seemingly unrealistic w very little acknowledgement of the real world. It could be my fears are unfounded - and if that’s the case, I’d like to get perspective on that too
Ive seen references in other threads about having conversations w providers about sexual health & practices - I’d like to know how that ideally goes from a providers perspective 
  And yes - I know all things carry some risk - it’s about making better choices, maybe not perfect ones.

This one pushes all my buttons and then some.  Hope someone has been lucky enough to share an experience.

Some guys just will not do PDA under any circumstances. Once I tried to plant a smooch on my guy in the middle of Key West, surrounded by a happy, celebrating gay crowd. He looked at me as if I tried to grab his nuts. And I even had brushed my teeth beforehand! O well. 

For me, ‘Boyfriend Experience’ suggests a more romantic, loving encounter. It is the very opposite of a ‘Wham, Bam, Thank You Sir’ date.
Obviously it depends on your companion but I would expect the date to comprise lots of foreplay with hugging, kissing with tongue, displays of affection and cuddling after sex. It would usually include oral sex and/or topping/bottoming. 
You would need to discuss the particulars beforehand. Depending on your wishes, the date might be just a physical session. If it is to be followed by dinner (or going out to a bar or club) together, you may want to discuss public displays of affection beforehand.
 
My reason for stating this is that I once hired an LA jock-boy for a weekend in San Francisco. We had an intense and very sexual time the night he arrived. The next morning when we went to brunch, I was startled that he took my hand as we walked together. I enjoyed it even more when he kissed me in the cafe. I’ve always been out but I had no idea that he’d be so demonstrative in public

He'll join you for Christmas dinner with the family, but in return you'll have to deal with his family as well.  And when the paid session is over, he'll also want custody of the dog. 🐶

I think this is a great concept. 
I had about two masseurs shower with me afterwards and they used body scrub too. 
 
Great experience. 

There was a thread back in the peak Covid era that’s since been closed for posting so I thought I’d start another.  I love the idea of showering with the masseur, but have never done it.  Anyone have a recent experience…especially in NYC?

This guy is 6 foot 8 inches tall.  Wow 🤩 

So, I took the plunge and Andre was great! He’s only been working there a month. Strictly therapeutic, at least at current, but very, very confident and well versed in Thai massage techniques. He started out a bit timid, but found his groove. And for $125 for a solid two hour massage, I didn’t miss the extras. I feel great! 

I wish! I tried to view it as a horizontal, very intimate lap dance.

Do an incall (masseur goes to your place) and ask them if you can shower together before or after the session. I’ve asked several times and they’ve always agreed. I never ask on the first session usually 2nd or 3rd. 

Not happening at a spa in NYC
This ain't Thailand.

Strong Strokes is along time go-too and never disappoints.

Develop serious health problems.  You'll stop giving a damn how you look in no time.
And in the unlikely event that you feel like going to a bar, you won't have the energy.