soloyo215

If that's not your thing (having a guy acting like you are his personal ATM), I agree with the suggestion of others. Paid what you agreed, do what you agreed and end it.

Have you seen the behavior of certain customers, entitled to do and say as they please because "they are always right", "they are paying" or similar nonsense?

I agree with all of the above, accept the compliments, don't depend on them. Real or not, who knows, doesn't matter. In a massage situation, chances are that if he didn't up-sell, he went farther with you and he said he liked it, it might be true. Enjoy your time with the provider. It's your time and the basic premise is precisely to dedicate some time to feel good, especially a massage. Massages are self-care.

Well, in my experience, there are times when fantasy does match reality. I have experienced an entire range of encounters with different masseurs, ranging from a simple (and great, or terrible) massage, to a massage that feels sensual but not sexual, to happy endings (meaning getting a handy jay), to oral, to anal, to almost braking the massage table having sex in all kinds of sexual positions. In my experience, and let me say it again, IN MY EXPERIENCE, the difference is not about sex happening during or after a massage session; it's about the masseur being the one who calls the shots. He decides how far he's willing to go. Also there are certain types of settings that many masseurs have: Some masseurs also advertise in RentMen, which sometimes they use to up-sell services during a massage Some masseurs don't advertise anywhere else, but up-sell services during a massage Some masseurs (I guess) have liked me and have extended their service, or are horny themselves, or need some kind of release, or for whatever reason he has ended up having sex with me One time the masseur was acting like he wanted something more, and I was the one who didn't feel right making the massage session about sex. Different locations/countries use massage services as a cover for escort services, including the USA. There's no rule, and as such, I find it ok to sometimes ask (me as a client) about what additional services, if any, are offered by the masseur (you'll be surprised what they offer via text). So I understand that you are being clear about what you offer, but I also think that it should not be denied, that many other providers do go farther, do offer more for more, or just like having sex with the clients that they like. As a masseur, you do call the shots, you state and decide how far you will go, and your client should respect your boundaries, but there's no rule about it, in my experience.

RM allows to filter by size and type. I imagine that you have used those features, but if not, they can help weed out those that don't meet your requirements. I also wonder if you could be ok with you to have a hairy guy that shaves. Not sure if a provider will shave for you, but it doesn't hurt to ask if he's willing to do that for you. The opposite is what's more difficult to cater (not sure the guy can grow hair if he's smooth). Best.

Go for it, but if you believe in the "Me too" crap, call it assault and have him arrested if you don't like it afterwards.

I don't really feel strongly about that, only when it feels out of context, or the tone/intent feels demeaning or insulting. I've been called darling, champ, sir, daddy, son, bro, buddy, sweetie, big boy, sexy thing, my cute little meatball, papi, handsome, bitch, stud, mother fucker, hunk, sugar, pimp and much more. Never ended a relationship over any of it, again, unless it's meant to hurt of demean.

I think being upfront about your looks and how you feel about them can be helpful, but I also know that some exploit it and use is to charge more. IMO, a good provider understands that the client and his needs come first. Best.

I had the intention to hire, and I did. Not sure why I'm reading "rules" that (a) I don't need, and (b) seem to accommodate more your personal style/taste. This is business and last time I check, I am entitled to shop around and decide what/who to go with, and explore, research the service provider before making a decision. I am quite sure that providers do the same with clients. Again, seems like you are basing this on your experiences, which seem to be unpleasant but not remotely close to mine. In any event, thanks for your feedback.

I have learned so much here. Thank you for your responses. Some things that I got: It's not well perceived that I reach at multiple providers at the same time. In my case it worked out well, but apparently it's not recommended. To some the reply, for as long as it's a reply and it's not a rejection, is OK even if it's "to-the-point". The side discussions are entertaining and educational. Thank you all.

Thanks for your perspective, but it seems full of assumptions, probably based on many past bad experiences. Sorry that you seem to have been burned many times. I just realized that I didn't add that after each reply I actually replied back with the purpose of (a) not wasting their/my time and (b) keeping the lines of communication and possibilities open. I made sure that all three knew where I was standing. To provider 2 I used money as an excuse to dismiss him, but I was polite ("I'm sorry, you are out of my pay range. Maybe at a different time. Thanks for replying"). I'm not sure how that's being a "time waster" or "fucking annoying". With provider 1, I had a little bit of an exchange, and I appreciated his rather caring tone. Wasting his time was not what I got from that text exchange, even after he said he's not available to meet (and no, I was not looking to get off with him via text). With provider 3, I definitely didn't waste his time since I actually extended my time with him (and paid accordingly). I'd strongly recommend not to jump to conclusions, though I see how your past experiences might have influenced your reply. Thanks for your reply. Is there anything that you recommend prospective clients to do differently?

I searched for this particular topic and didn't find anything specifically about this, which is why I am posting. A little context first. I went to a conference in Orlando last week, and I managed to talk my employer into letting me stay in the hotel where it happened for an additional night. I planned to treat myself with a provider for that night and return home happy. Went to RM and identified three prospects. I texted them with provider 1 being my preferred of the three. I sent the exact same initial text to reach out to each one of them (something along the lines of "I saw your profile, liked what I read, I am interested. Are you available?") Their initial responses were quite different. Provider number 1: "Aww thanks!! I'm just not available this weekend. How long are you in town?" Provider number 2: "$XXX for one hour $XXX per hour for 2 or more". Provider number 3: "Hey there, thanks for checking out my profile. I can be available. What part of town are staying in? Typically my rate is $XXX for the hour. I'm located in the xxxx area." I went with provider 3 because provider 1 wasn't available, and provider 2 didn't entice me much to further the communication. I dissed provider 2 because it didn't show much people skills. Questions to providers: Do you craft your initial reply, do you just answer based on the initial text, or combination of both? Do you think that how you reply matters (of course, aside from being polite and basic communication manners) and makes a difference in your business? Questions to clients: do you care about how the provider replies, or does it impact your decision of going further (of course, based on the premise that it's not rejection or unavailability). BTW, Provider 3 was excellent. I ended up extending my stay.

I was in a similar place when I started. I kind do the same since I never crave the same thing from the same provider. But once I'm clear about what I want, I let the provider know, and it's never been anything too difficult to do.

You learn something new every day. Never thought that the greeting can tell about client reliability.

I don't have suggestions, but like the others, I'll be interested in listening to the podcast. Best wishes.