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Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. 
A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. 
That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions. 

Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. 
A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. 
That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions. 

Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. 
A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. 
That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions. 

Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. 
A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. 
That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions. 

Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. 
A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. 
That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions. 

Montreal isnt dead.
Stock and Campus r very much alive, as I had reported.
I gather from old timers that relative to back then, the village is dead or dying. 
However, these 2 strip bars r delivering.

M not sure, bcs I immediately made it clear that I won't b paying 100, let alone 200..
 

Saturday 21:45 - Taboo: 
95% women. As I entered the host was introducing a line up of 3 dancers, encouraging the ladies to entice them with bills. Rather than dancing, the 3 immediately worked the ladies seats collecting bills. I left after 2 minutes. 
21:55 - Expose: 
No one on stage. 5 dancers sitting around, mostly with their phones. One, a bit effiminate, tried to engage me. Only 2 patrons, who left after a couple of minutes. I bought a drink, sat for 10 boring minutes, and left. A new patron walked in.
Both places - no entrance fee.
22:20 - Stock: 
Entered with my free coupon. 60 people, few women. Later on, almost together, 2 groups of 6 bachelorette ladies took over the 2 wings of the stage. By then the place was packed. Same show and guys as on Thursday. Again only 3 flashed their cocks: Jovani only at the far back of the stage; Santiago was also jerking himself while working on the pole. That and his energetic moves made him the audience favorite. 
Again there were very few mingling with patrons and going for a LapDance. I don't understand that, when I remember all the reports here about 'stars' being snatched after dancing, or busy LD cubicles. Maybe patrons get hornier after midnight.....   ? 
I picked a guy who solicited me on Thursday. [BTW, I saw him in Taboo earlier, and he raced over to Stock a couple of minutes after I had left there.] 
I didnt understand why he led me to the farthest cubicle, and then he said something like: "No dances. With me, 2 options: wild - $100, and very wild - $200. I will make u cum." 
He was all over me, while I negotiated him down to "wild and cum" for $70, time of 3 songs. Wouldn't let me suck him.
He stripped asked permission to unzip me, and we played with each other per agreement. VERY nice surprise! 
 
After seeing the guys at the 2 other bars, I understood I had been mistaken in my first report. Undoubtedly the guys in Stock r not just "next door" types. 
Stock isn't open Sunday - Tuesday, so tonight I'll go to Campus.
 

Sunday night 21:00 show hasn't started yet, so I came back at 23:00. Circa 45 people, 25% women. Most things very similar to Stock, but the space is wide and less deep, so more patrons get a closer view of the stage. Given the attendance, I don't understand why Stock isn't open too.
One of the patrons told me that the previous night the place was packed, so it would seem - contrary to what I've read here - that Campus isn't underperforming relative to Stock. 
The dancers' build was more stocky, which I don't like. Only 2 were to my taste. I ended up going to a LD with A, the slimmest one and the only one who came up to chat with me. 
Unlike the curtained Stock cubicles, here they r open. Only one was occupied. I asked him to count the songs for me, and A was very professional and polite about it. First time I'm sure I got the full time. 
During the 1st song he started unbuckling me. I reciprocated, but he slowed me down until the 2nd song. When I brushed my face on his btm, he warned me not to rim him. Everything was said and done very politely friendly. 
When I told him I'd like to suck, he said he charges $250 for that. M proud of myself that I succeeded to refrain from laughing out loud. Since his cock wasn't big, I didn't bother to negotiate. On the whole, another pleasant experience.
 

Visited Steamworks SF a month ago. Same setup. It's not really a GH, but a suck ramp. The 'holes' are actually big and wide frames or windows within a very open 'fence'. Everyone can see all the suckers and all the suckees all the time. Found this VERY sexy.
Unfortunately, despite many silent men walking around zombi-like with poker faces, very few availed themselves of this facility.

I visited today SteamWorks Berkeley. If Blow Buddies was about bj, the suck ramp in SW might b an alternative.
 

Since my only point of personal reference is Montreal (Stock & Campus), the best way to caption the experience is: totally different.
Thursday, 22:30. No cover charge. Later I saw some entering patrons doing something with a slouched 'doorman'; dont know what about. Drinks cheaper than in Mntrl. 
Biggest difference: there's no stage, and there was NO dancing. There r 2-3 small 'stages' for 1 or 2 dancers to stand upon. They were vacant most of the time I was there. 
When I entered there were about 15 dancers, more than patrons. By midnight when I left, there were about 40 patrons - most of them young. 
The dancers were all in tight bulging undies, some of them constantly fluffing their dicks. Most of the dancers were buff chubby budybuilders, not my type at all. Many of the others were actually overweight with a belly, which I find unappealing. There were only 2-3 dancers who were lean, one of them spent the whole time smooching with a very obese old patron (obviously prior acquaintances). 
4 dancers came up to introduce themselves and politely solicit. We shortly chatted the usual, and I said "maybe later". None returned. After an hour I set my eyes on the sexiest lean guy; I thought he was Afro, but he turned out to b Cuban. I dont know why he (and most of the others) didnt solicit me, so I actively reached out to him at the partially open space at the back for smoking. He was polite, even effectionate, and despite the circumstances - smelled great. 
Another two differences relative to Mntreal. One, a $20 dance 'per song' isnt 3 minutes but 5. That's what he said and did. 
Two, the whole lap dancing 'area' is actually the size of maybe 2 standard cubicles. Right and left wings were occupied as we entered, so I sat in the middle. We werent crowded and didnt disturb other couples (who didnt notice us), but there's no way it's possible to have 4 couples simultaneously. However, I was sitting for more than an hour near the enterance to that area; didnt see any waiting cue. 
'My' cuban was VERY good at his job, better than the 3 dancers I enjoyed in Mntrl. I was allowed to touch him all over; actually he was encouraging it. I asked if I could suck him; he said he charges $40 for that; and I went for it. He had a big dick, but didnt get hard.
Had  a great time with him. Gave him 60, meaning 40 for dance + suck and 20 bonus. Thinking back on it, he might have meant that 40 is for the suck on top of the standard 20. Guess I'll never know. We parted very amicably. 
I prefer the Mntrl style, with dancers in rotation on the stage. Just sitting and looking at other guys just sitting and looking is boring, all the more so when u r alone. 

Thx for the explanation, Vegas.

Since my only point of personal reference is Montreal (Stock & Campus), the best way to caption the experience is: totally different.
Thursday, 22:30. No cover charge. Later I saw some entering patrons doing something with a slouched 'doorman'; dont know what about. Drinks cheaper than in Mntrl. 
Biggest difference: there's no stage, and there was NO dancing. There r 2-3 small 'stages' for 1 or 2 dancers to stand upon. They were vacant most of the time I was there. 
When I entered there were about 15 dancers, more than patrons. By midnight when I left, there were about 40 patrons - most of them young. 
The dancers were all in tight bulging undies, some of them constantly fluffing their dicks. Most of the dancers were buff chubby budybuilders, not my type at all. Many of the others were actually overweight with a belly, which I find unappealing. There were only 2-3 dancers who were lean, one of them spent the whole time smooching with a very obese old patron (obviously prior acquaintances). 
4 dancers came up to introduce themselves and politely solicit. We shortly chatted the usual, and I said "maybe later". None returned. After an hour I set my eyes on the sexiest lean guy; I thought he was Afro, but he turned out to b Cuban. I dont know why he (and most of the others) didnt solicit me, so I actively reached out to him at the partially open space at the back for smoking. He was polite, even effectionate, and despite the circumstances - smelled great. 
Another two differences relative to Mntreal. One, a $20 dance 'per song' isnt 3 minutes but 5. That's what he said and did. 
Two, the whole lap dancing 'area' is actually the size of maybe 2 standard cubicles. Right and left wings were occupied as we entered, so I sat in the middle. We werent crowded and didnt disturb other couples (who didnt notice us), but there's no way it's possible to have 4 couples simultaneously. However, I was sitting for more than an hour near the enterance to that area; didnt see any waiting cue. 
'My' cuban was VERY good at his job, better than the 3 dancers I enjoyed in Mntrl. I was allowed to touch him all over; actually he was encouraging it. I asked if I could suck him; he said he charges $40 for that; and I went for it. He had a big dick, but didnt get hard.
Had  a great time with him. Gave him 60, meaning 40 for dance + suck and 20 bonus. Thinking back on it, he might have meant that 40 is for the suck on top of the standard 20. Guess I'll never know. We parted very amicably. 
I prefer the Mntrl style, with dancers in rotation on the stage. Just sitting and looking at other guys just sitting and looking is boring, all the more so when u r alone. 

I was there last week, and stayed at hotel St Denis. Recommend it, as a very basic hotel. About half way btw the village and Old Mntrl. 

I was there last week, and stayed at hotel St Denis. Recommend it, as a very basic hotel. About half way btw the village and Old Mntrl. 

Daddy's Corner at Campus doesn't seem to work. 
It opens at 3 pm; I went at 6, hoping that later means more. 
The "corner" is a smaller bar, to the right of the stage and the main bar. There were 5 patrons sitting with their drinks: 3 solitary, 2 talking with a shirtless dancer. The barman was also shirtless. 
Per my question, one of the patrons repeated the concept on the website, but added that nothing is going on and left. I then talked with the barman. He said they intend to put in a curtain to make the space more intimate (smart). When I asked about dancers, he explained that 2 others were going in and out on errands, because "things were slow". Since the only dancer there didn't appeal to me, after 5 minutes I left. 
Newbie that I m, I humbly submit this concept probably won't work. Dancers won't come for 5-10 patrons instead of 50. Patrons won't come if there r only 1-3 dancers to choose from. Without the show in the background, u can come, sit with a drink for 10 minutes, take the only dancer for 2-3 lap dances, and then return to a rather "too tranquil" (the leaving patron defined it) setting. 
Hope to read future accounts that would prove me wrong. (-:

Sunday night 21:00 show hasn't started yet, so I came back at 23:00. Circa 45 people, 25% women. Most things very similar to Stock, but the space is wide and less deep, so more patrons get a closer view of the stage. Given the attendance, I don't understand why Stock isn't open too.
One of the patrons told me that the previous night the place was packed, so it would seem - contrary to what I've read here - that Campus isn't underperforming relative to Stock. 
The dancers' build was more stocky, which I don't like. Only 2 were to my taste. I ended up going to a LD with A, the slimmest one and the only one who came up to chat with me. 
Unlike the curtained Stock cubicles, here they r open. Only one was occupied. I asked him to count the songs for me, and A was very professional and polite about it. First time I'm sure I got the full time. 
During the 1st song he started unbuckling me. I reciprocated, but he slowed me down until the 2nd song. When I brushed my face on his btm, he warned me not to rim him. Everything was said and done very politely friendly. 
When I told him I'd like to suck, he said he charges $250 for that. M proud of myself that I succeeded to refrain from laughing out loud. Since his cock wasn't big, I didn't bother to negotiate. On the whole, another pleasant experience.
 

Per my other thread, I totally agree. Ear plugs help a little...

Montreal isnt dead.
Stock and Campus r very much alive, as I had reported.
I gather from old timers that relative to back then, the village is dead or dying. 
However, these 2 strip bars r delivering.

Montreal isnt dead.
Stock and Campus r very much alive, as I had reported.
I gather from old timers that relative to back then, the village is dead or dying. 
However, these 2 strip bars r delivering.

Daddy's Corner at Campus doesn't seem to work. 
It opens at 3 pm; I went at 6, hoping that later means more. 
The "corner" is a smaller bar, to the right of the stage and the main bar. There were 5 patrons sitting with their drinks: 3 solitary, 2 talking with a shirtless dancer. The barman was also shirtless. 
Per my question, one of the patrons repeated the concept on the website, but added that nothing is going on and left. I then talked with the barman. He said they intend to put in a curtain to make the space more intimate (smart). When I asked about dancers, he explained that 2 others were going in and out on errands, because "things were slow". Since the only dancer there didn't appeal to me, after 5 minutes I left. 
Newbie that I m, I humbly submit this concept probably won't work. Dancers won't come for 5-10 patrons instead of 50. Patrons won't come if there r only 1-3 dancers to choose from. Without the show in the background, u can come, sit with a drink for 10 minutes, take the only dancer for 2-3 lap dances, and then return to a rather "too tranquil" (the leaving patron defined it) setting. 
Hope to read future accounts that would prove me wrong. (-:

Sunday night 21:00 show hasn't started yet, so I came back at 23:00. Circa 45 people, 25% women. Most things very similar to Stock, but the space is wide and less deep, so more patrons get a closer view of the stage. Given the attendance, I don't understand why Stock isn't open too.
One of the patrons told me that the previous night the place was packed, so it would seem - contrary to what I've read here - that Campus isn't underperforming relative to Stock. 
The dancers' build was more stocky, which I don't like. Only 2 were to my taste. I ended up going to a LD with A, the slimmest one and the only one who came up to chat with me. 
Unlike the curtained Stock cubicles, here they r open. Only one was occupied. I asked him to count the songs for me, and A was very professional and polite about it. First time I'm sure I got the full time. 
During the 1st song he started unbuckling me. I reciprocated, but he slowed me down until the 2nd song. When I brushed my face on his btm, he warned me not to rim him. Everything was said and done very politely friendly. 
When I told him I'd like to suck, he said he charges $250 for that. M proud of myself that I succeeded to refrain from laughing out loud. Since his cock wasn't big, I didn't bother to negotiate. On the whole, another pleasant experience.
 

Saturday 21:45 - Taboo: 
95% women. As I entered the host was introducing a line up of 3 dancers, encouraging the ladies to entice them with bills. Rather than dancing, the 3 immediately worked the ladies seats collecting bills. I left after 2 minutes. 
21:55 - Expose: 
No one on stage. 5 dancers sitting around, mostly with their phones. One, a bit effiminate, tried to engage me. Only 2 patrons, who left after a couple of minutes. I bought a drink, sat for 10 boring minutes, and left. A new patron walked in.
Both places - no entrance fee.
22:20 - Stock: 
Entered with my free coupon. 60 people, few women. Later on, almost together, 2 groups of 6 bachelorette ladies took over the 2 wings of the stage. By then the place was packed. Same show and guys as on Thursday. Again only 3 flashed their cocks: Jovani only at the far back of the stage; Santiago was also jerking himself while working on the pole. That and his energetic moves made him the audience favorite. 
Again there were very few mingling with patrons and going for a LapDance. I don't understand that, when I remember all the reports here about 'stars' being snatched after dancing, or busy LD cubicles. Maybe patrons get hornier after midnight.....   ? 
I picked a guy who solicited me on Thursday. [BTW, I saw him in Taboo earlier, and he raced over to Stock a couple of minutes after I had left there.] 
I didnt understand why he led me to the farthest cubicle, and then he said something like: "No dances. With me, 2 options: wild - $100, and very wild - $200. I will make u cum." 
He was all over me, while I negotiated him down to "wild and cum" for $70, time of 3 songs. Wouldn't let me suck him.
He stripped asked permission to unzip me, and we played with each other per agreement. VERY nice surprise! 
 
After seeing the guys at the 2 other bars, I understood I had been mistaken in my first report. Undoubtedly the guys in Stock r not just "next door" types. 
Stock isn't open Sunday - Tuesday, so tonight I'll go to Campus.
 

Daddy's Corner at Campus doesn't seem to work. 
It opens at 3 pm; I went at 6, hoping that later means more. 
The "corner" is a smaller bar, to the right of the stage and the main bar. There were 5 patrons sitting with their drinks: 3 solitary, 2 talking with a shirtless dancer. The barman was also shirtless. 
Per my question, one of the patrons repeated the concept on the website, but added that nothing is going on and left. I then talked with the barman. He said they intend to put in a curtain to make the space more intimate (smart). When I asked about dancers, he explained that 2 others were going in and out on errands, because "things were slow". Since the only dancer there didn't appeal to me, after 5 minutes I left. 
Newbie that I m, I humbly submit this concept probably won't work. Dancers won't come for 5-10 patrons instead of 50. Patrons won't come if there r only 1-3 dancers to choose from. Without the show in the background, u can come, sit with a drink for 10 minutes, take the only dancer for 2-3 lap dances, and then return to a rather "too tranquil" (the leaving patron defined it) setting. 
Hope to read future accounts that would prove me wrong. (-: