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For me, age less about looks or anything physical or sexual. I look at it and (perhaps unfairly) make assumptions about personality based off it. But I’m also looking for something beyond plug in and pull out. I do several days at a time. A guy my age will provide a different BFE than a 21-yo

The above was from @DWnyc For escorts primarily: how many of you keep records in a systematic way of hires? If so, what sort of info do you record? How do you keep track? Especially you guys where this is your job…do you do analysis at the end of the month etc. on how things went? What needs tweaking?

@maninsoma, fair. Regardless of age, I’ve always been invisible to guys unless I flash the green or the magnetic strip (now more and more the Venmo QR code…times, they are a-changin’!)

Age shaving and penis augmentation 😂

I didn’t intend it to be. I guess I forgot the conversational “Let’s not forget” at the beginning!

People think I’m 3 years old if I shave my facial hair. If I have a beard, they guess I’m 43. Still wrong, but huge difference 😂 Let’s not forget that age is the big boogeyman for 90% of the gays. 18-30, prime meat, “sugar baby desire” 30-45, invisible to most men, “dead” 45+, assumed to be stable and well establishedly employed, “sugar daddy candidate”

Tangential remark – A lot of the “21-year-old guys” are actually much closer to 30 than they admit in their ads because youth sells. I know this for a fact. Two regulars of mine shave several years off their ages for their RM ads because they can pass for younger. Is that akin to saying you’re 9” when when you’re actually 7”? Maybe. I’m sure some here will disagree or justify such “fudging,” but the fact remains it happens. In more ways than one. The “product” is misrepresented in order to make the sale.

What was the experience like otherwise?

A close reading will see that said member poked the bears first!

That’s how I see it too. Hide someone’s comments doesn’t hide them if someone you didn’t hide quotes them.

Maybe there’s an evil child sex traffic ring operated out of midwestern pizzeria basements though?! *snark*

At some point, internet controversies inevitably descend to argumentum ad Hilterum.

Isn’t bigotedly maligning an entire swath of a country’s population totally off topic of this thread? I mean, I could be wrong, but I thought we were discussing market fluctuations and supply and demand expectations. Not engaging in malicious stereotyping 🤷🏼‍♂️

I’ve noticed everything has gone up. Everything. And the cynical side of me says it’s places (providers in a broad sense) taking advantage of the boogeyman “inflation” to simply raise rates. When you look at profits of companies, many are posting record profits. How is that possible during an inflationary period if things are so rough for such enterprises? I’m not talking mom-and-pop operations. I’m talking Amazon. Netflix. YouTube. Etc. Just by way of example. Jeff Bezos is worth in the neighborhood of $180 billion. I don’t think he’s hurting for inflation. I work in the non-profit sector and we rely on donations to keep us going. We provide services, but we don’t charge except for a few specific exceptions. Yet things have gotten more expensive for us as well. We need to pay higher rates to Comcast, for instance, along with all our donor base. We are seeing people cut their donations while our costs are going up. I’d love to charge for services from a strictly fiduciary standpoint, but we simply can’t. Yet the whole cost of operations issues is hitting us on both ends. We’re actually looking at rolling compensation back 14% next fiscal year simply to make budget with increased costs of operations with decreased donations. The difference here, in my line of work, I understand the dynamics of why that’s happening. I don’t like it, but I don’t complain or act like I don’t get why the situation is the way it is. People simply can’t give to things like they did before when the cost of everything else is going up. And we hear that. So I’m not surprised that clients would notice an escort putting rates up and not liking it. No one does. And people notice and say – “I’m now paying more for the same thing as before. The math has skewed against me.”

That was a non-fungible plan!

How many people still are bitching about how much gas costs today compared to when Reagan or HW was president? People don’t like price increases. Sure. It goes up. We adjust. We don’t have to like it. Likewise, as it goes up, some people won’t sign on to the new price as quickly as some others. Businesspeople shouldn’t wonder why people are unhappy to pay more. As a general rule, no one likes to part with their money no matter what for. I could see me making a remark about an increased rate. But it would be up to the provider. It would also be up to me to decline. Sometimes I’m hesitant to take a reduced rate if a provider says he’s willing to provide it. Not because I don’t think he’ll give worse service intentionally, but I don’t want to be resented.

So that’s how you discuss it. How do you identify guys who such talkarounds will register with?

@LookingAround

It’s the entitlement thing. There will always be guys who will provide the service for less than the market average. If a guy wants to charge above it, he most certainly can. But one provider raising his rates just sets himself apart as more expensive than if a not negligible number of providers do so. If you’re on the vanguard of raising prices, in a price increase period, you can likely expect a decline in number of clients until the demand side catches up with supply. Supply also will adjust down if demand refuses to meet supply price (cf. elasticity and stickiness)

If you have to ask, it more than likely is.

@NyGold– we hear ad nauseam about the shitty clients. Decency goes a long way to covering a multitude of sins…If you’re a genuine person, if you do something boneheadedly rude toward someone else, another genuine person will likely forgive you or overlook it. But if you’re a jerk or only looking out for yourself, then your comeuppance will happen at some point.

Big Brother (public or private) is always watching! Theres’s a guy I follow on IG whose profile I got from RM. His profile on IG is clearly a platform to drive business to his OF. But just because a guy has an OF doesn’t mean he’s open to meeting up. As has been discussed here ad nauseam a lot of guys prefer OF to escorting because of a host of reasons – mainly because they don’t have to deal with us!

The problem with the word “generous” in general is it means different things to different guys 😂 To some, it’s simply code for “do you escort?” and for others they think you’re lavish with escorts. I like to think I’m “generous” but my means aren’t limitless!

1. Reaching out to guys who have a linktree (etc) in DMs 2. Reaching out to guys who post clearly salacious material in DMs This what I said to the last guy I reached out to on IG: I really like your profile. I wonder if you provide paid services. Companionship and intimacy specifically? Of the guys who’ve responded, all have been polite. Never have I experienced rudeness. Just a lack of success. The response to the above was as follows: I stay pretty busy so don’t think I have time for that- I’m sorry