Archangel

I have never not paid before. It’s been clear to me that payment always happened up front. It’s actually one of the reasons why I want to flesh out details before meeting because I want to have a pretty good idea before I commit that I’m going to get something close to my expectations satisfied. That expectation in and of itself seems to be problematic to some here as acting entitled to more than is my due though…

Before anyone pisses themselves, this isn’t about escorts although it can apply… I know people whose phones or tablets seem to be surgically attached to their wrists. I might be one such person in some people’s eyes. I get texts to my computer and have WhatsApp on it too. My email for personal and work comes to my phone. Many people are like that. But back to the opener: there are people whose phones or tablets seem to be surgically attached to their wrists. But then you message them or email them, and they take forever to reply. And sometimes you end up seeing them before they even do. You remark that you texted or you emailed and they’ll say they didn’t see it or didn’t have a chance to reply yet. I struggle with that—especially when I know someone is device-dependent. It just seems courtesy to reply if someone reaches out. Even a tapback or acknowledgement that it’s been received and you will deal with it when you have time. Read receipts are also dumb if you don’t plan to respond in a timely manner. I can see you opened the message… If it were in person, such silence would be extremely rude…

Probably not if your objective if to change my mind. If your objective is to understand a different perspective, then it most definitely can be productive. Not everything is a courtroom argument…

Who’s the she? 😂

Sure. When it’s one sided. I said I’d do it in the future and you said that wasn’t good enough, and implied because of that it’s unfair slander and unsubstantiated accusations. I’m simply not wading through it to find it now. As I said, if you can accept my words at face value and unbiased, I will point it out if I remember you and remember this exchange when I see escorts getting adulation and passes. I have never had you defend unfair slander, unsubstantiated accusations against me by guys on this forum who only know me through this venue. I’m guessing the escorts you defend, directly and indirectly, you know no better than you do me, but they merit your defense and I merit your prejudice. They are providers; I am a client. From your perspective, that is really all that differs between them and me, insofar as you “know” us. Delegitimization should not be the intention of discourse unless everything is a high-stakes debate. Understanding differences of view with an openness to changing perspectives should be the object of discourse. Arguments are meant to change minds; discourse is the sharing of ideas with the very intent to experience a new perspective. I didn’t know that you were to derive any implications from my observation (not conjecture). My observation is that you’re an escort defender. Full stop. Nothing to derive. No hidden mystery or ulterior meaning behind those words. Do you have issue taking words at face value, especially once someone says they’re meant to be taken as such? I would love a defender such as you, but I come with toxicity because others (my perception is mostly escorts, but also some of their cheerleading squad here) have maligned me in this space. As an escort defender, of course you are opposed to what I think or say and give a short, terse, unextrapolated response if we agree—cf. “This is a point we agree on.” Nothing more. But let us disagree, and the words flow in abundance! This only goes to validate that when I attempt to make discussion about topics that could provide potential agreement (or at least neutral discussion on the material) that I’m largely ignored, but my critiques are seen as criticism and my criticism as a kind of grounds for calling me judgmental, slanderous, unfair, unsubstantiated, and accusatory. I say I don’t like BDSM, yet maybe I am a masochist as I keep coming back here and continue getting treated like contemptible shit.

He has three reviews now. One isn’t 5-stars. I would be interested in hearing more if anyone has any experience. He’s in NYC now apparently.

I’m not, contrary to popular opinion, always wrong. 😉

It would seem you’re a bit of an apologist for escorts—or at least a défenseur prêt. I wish guys here came to my defense when digs and further digs are made at me. Instead, it’s a mob mentality. Even your remark about having examples at the ready was at minimum an indirect attempt to delegitimatize my opinion. (I’m not wading through posts to produce examples that will simply be assailed as me misunderstanding or whatever; if I see it in the future and remember, I will point it out. Can you take my words at face value and not read into them something sinister?) Like I said, guys here are ready to judge me (probably others here too) for a few posts that don’t fawn over escorts despite more positive posts that outnumber the negative. I, Archangel, am not afforded the right to criticize here as some others are without receiving my own criticism. (And the attempts I have made at creating posts on topics that are meant to lead to conversation have garnered little traction; but let me say something that’s less than praiseworthy, and the mob arises. I know guys look; you can see the views count. In short, my positive-to-neutral posts engender no discussion, but my negative ones bring responses post haste!) Why that’s the case, I can only surmise. But I do suspect it’s because, as one member here recently said to justify an instance of his own bullying behavior, that I say what I think without sugarcoating it for anyone in particular. (Unlike him, I am not afforded the grace to speak it as I see it!) I will agree if I agree, and I will disagree if I disagree. I will also share my thoughts immaterial of whether it’s liked or not. I’m poignantly aware when what I post will (likely) ruffle certain feathers. Those posts aren’t “inadvertent.”

It’s also highly suspicious, even if it’s an old account, when you see a guy posting here who raves about a provider, and only one provider, or comes to a provider’s defense but only posts that. I look at those posts from “clients” as simply the provider posing. There is a so-called client here who came here and was a tad more sophisticated. He played the “medium” game insofar as he posted some questions about a provider and when some critical—not even truly negative—comments were made, said it was good to hear about this. Only later to come back and tell us how it was the most fabulous experience with an escort he ever had. My suspicions run very high about this guy being the provider posing as a client. When I shared my concern about the duplicity with the mods, I was told there’s no rule against users having multiple profiles. If anyone is curious which provider, “client,” and thread I’m speaking of, I’m happy to discuss it further in PMs. I’m not getting sucked down that blackhole here, and it would be off the OP’s original topic to boot.

If I remember who you are and this request the next time I see it, I’ll point it out to you. No promises. And be forewarned—if it should come to pass that I do remember who you are and this request and follow through with this, there will be apologists telling me why impression and opinion are wrong, all the while fully assured of their assessment of me based off the same amount data about me as I have on them from the sum total of interaction we share in this forum.

You really don’t phase me. I’m good but thanks for the unsolicited advice to look into myself. You don’t know me at all. This is not the first you have passed judgement on me. And it wasn’t “inadvertent.” If you can’t take my hyperbole, you can’t take me. And frankly, if you can’t take my hyperbole, or see it for hyperbole, without passing judgement, you don’t deserve my time or respect when I’m not hyperbolic. I post plenty of things here that aren’t critical, yet say something critical, and it’s universally damning. That kind of selective judgmentalism shows a lot about you and others like you as well. I will reiterate in case it got lost or overlooked: you don’t know me at all.

I have talked to escorts who are unaware this place exists. Frankly, I think the number is few who are aware…They aren’t that invested professionally as many of those here to make it a point to engage this place as a facet of their work Regarding being treated badly: The escorts here are given wide latitude to say whatever they want with impunity. They are the demigods who deign to afford us mortal clients their attention free of charge—their priceless time not to be wasted on such insignificant ants as the likes of us!—in this forum. We should feel honored and utter nothing but accolades and honors to their names! (This is how some, not all escorts here act anyhow…cf. above criticism criticizing criticism)

And this response is a good example of the deference that a lot of escorts come entitled with. After all the slanderous generalizations about clients here, escorts can take it too. No one is owed a pass on the critical eye…

So he’s mentally ill—detached from reality. What we have here is most definitely a classic case of NPD, or narcissistic personality disorder. And it wouldn’t surprise me if he has Delusional Disorder (subset grandiose). Ego and Id are definitely out of alignment! 😆 Was this double entendre intentional? Five points to Gryffindor if so! 🤣 I don’t find his “apparatus and attendant infrastructure” at all appealing…or attractive.

Is this serious? 🧐 Or are we being fresh?

That was…entertaining! 😂

@Vegas_Millennial, it’s almost as if we shouldn’t make generalizations…

When I texted with him, he was very engaged and sincere. I appreciated that greatly. We have a tentative agreement for another time.

At the risk of going off topic, this isn’t universally necessarily true. In New England, gay is as pedestrianly quotidian as it comes. It’s not even seen as a feature so much anymore…More important is political affiliation than sexuality!

I sympathize. But I’m not even getting the hookup. Good on you for that at least! I could be the only available and still be passed over. I had a friend I was very close with, PoC, who I was beginning to think he and I had feelings for each other. I’m sure he sensed it too—at least from me—because at one point he told me, “I could never be your boyfriend. You’re too good of a friend.” Talk about deflating…We’re still friends, but that right there sums up my whole relationship experiences in one interaction. People suck.

I can expect it. I should also expect lying so I protect myself too.

Not super into all the tattoos and why 1958? That’s definitely not a birth year if he’s actually 33. Does sound fun though. I could be persuaded 🤣 You don’t see tattoos when he’s going at you from behind anyhow…

I agree. I hadn’t considered that distinction but it’s a good one. I also think it’s perfectly acceptable to ask directly any guy who’s fucking you what his HIV status is, in the simplest and most transparent terms. That is to say, if you ask, and he is HIV- but on HIV-treatment, the ethical thing for him to do is share that. And the same for me. If asked, I should have no qualms about discussing that with a guy who’s going to fuck me. It’s responsible.

Billy…Bob…I assure you: my issue was the pedantry in responding, not the content. Thou dost extrapolate too much—and methinks assign more impactful valuation to your logorrhea over me than warranted, apt, or frankly present. I could find something curious and respect it simultaneously, to boot. That’s the complexity of human behavior—a distinction that, as I do believe I clearly stated in the aforeposted response, is admittedly and concededly operous if you are captive to a binary view of existence.