SouthOfTheBorder

less triggered, more truth-teller if there was no cheap sex to be had in Rio, you wouldn't go near it. the cheap sex makes it worth the risk no shame - just looks really dumb to deny the obvious tho anyone who has visited Rio more than 2x knows this is true

unfortunately, my sense is that a gang shoot-out in Ipanema is not unusual. The experience I'm referencing was 2008 or thereabouts. When I need a Brazil fix now, I go to SP. Much safer & less likely to have problems

let's be honest here - you & everyone else reading this travels to Brazil for relatively inexpensive sex. along with the variety, availability & passion of Brazilian men if sex was not in the mix at all - Rio would just be another beach with exceptionally high crime get real

if you want to have sex with others watching or you watching others - go to a sex club or other appropriate venue: not in a public street for a "parade" don't get confused that somehow pride opens the door for whatever (sex) you want to do in public spaces just because you just want to do it Not only is it offensive & likely illegal, it could be easily read as hostile/aggressive/unsafe by those who just might want to see a parade I get so tired of the need to make everything gay hyper-sexualized at all times. there are plenty of gay/queer spaces to do exactly that where nobody will care or bother & children will not be present

It actually is a big deal - there are laws against it. police would arrest any straight people having sex in a public space with children - why is it any different for pride ? the failure to understand these basic norms does the LGBTQI community/movement more harm than good. It's a losing argument every single time with no upside

there are other options and perhaps options where you hold more sway over content & moderation ?

been there, done that - about a dozen times the point is to be honest about what it is - that's responsible. If the idea is to give forum members realistic expectations, minimizing what goes on doesn't help a visit to Rio can be done without incident if you want to be hyper-vigilant at all times & acknowledge the real risk all around. Anything else is playing the odds and your number will come up eventually. Ask any long time Rio resident- they've all been robbed And if you're a typical gringo that doesn't speak Portuguese wandering the streets of Rio - good luck

every time I've been to Rio I've witnessed multiple crimes every day. Most often it's petty robbery at the beach - happens in a blink of an eye with kids surveilling who they rob, then can grab & run. I've seen many robberies on the streets which is usually a phone or necklace grab & run I've also seen an abduction via home invasion from an Ipanema oceanfront condo in broad daylight. I've witnessed a gunfight between two rival gangs in Ipanema about 7p on Farme de Amoeda. Most of the tourist, sex trade & drug related crime is underreported due to people leaving, embarrassment, etc None of this is new information or surprising to anyone who's been there a few times

perhaps it appears that way for affluent privileged tourists in Rio - but that's not how Cariocas perceive their own city I love Rio - it doesn't do any good to minimize the reality of crime there. And, no it's not comparable to DC in any circumstances Plus - the wildcard in Rio is so many tourists going for sex tourism which puts customers at higher risk and some getting mixed up in drug trade. That doesn't happen in DC. It's not in any way comparable to touring federal buildings and the Smithsonian. Nobody is going to DC for sex tourism I get that the reaction to Rio criticism is to defend and rationalize your trips - I did it too. Its much more real to say something like "I'm a sex tourist and I'm willing to go to a dangerous city because the low costs, variety & availability of sex trade justifies the risk" That's honest

has anyone heard from prolific poster Riobard ? he's definitely not here under any aliases - so I've been told !

technically true - but very naive. the big problem in Rio is the very small geographic footprint for tourists which is entirely predictable & surrounded by favelas on all sides with desperate people. Some on drugs, some drug dealers, some violent, some gangs - all looking for an easy mark. there is not another global tourist destination like Rio’s Zona Sul and it’s beaches surrounded by slums and all the people mix near the beach. It does not exist anywhere else. say what you want - the fact is if you’re anywhere from Leme to Leblon, you’re a target and being surveilled several times each day. If going into an environment where being vulnerable and a target gets you off, by all means go.

YES ! YES & YES !

I don’t think it’s a must anything but how does anyone know what they like if not for the experience ? I’ve been with several women - not for me in general, but I wouldn’t rule it out completely. As for ethnicities - I don’t know why I would limit myself by any self-imposed “preferences” when it’s really about individual chemistry ? Sure there are general things I like, but no deal breakers by race because that would be counterproductive. I’ve said I don’t care for Northern/Central Europeans but that just means I like someone very different than me. when I keep an open mind about all things - I find options I didn’t know were available & wants/desires I didn’t know I had. Makes life way more interesting

interesting - why compartmentalization by race ? not judging, just curious haven’t give this topic much thought previously, my hires & love interests are exactly the same

interesting discussion & I’ve never considered the question. my preference in men is anything but Northern/Central European. so that leaves a broad range of possibilities. When hiring - there is no thought about skin color and corresponding rates. I hire among what I see available at a given time & at a given rate. I don’t negotiate down from a providers quote because I know what has to happen before they see me - it’s compensating for way more than 1 hour when everything is factored in. I find it easier to justify a higher rate when the person is very well known either in provider world or OF - a proven track record with much less risk. I obviously see & acknowledge color, but it has nothing to do with rate I will pay. This could be very different in smaller cities or areas where prejudice & discrimination are more present.

yes - there are people using aliases it’s not something to be overly alarmed about - but you should be aware. it’s extremely common in this kind of anonymous forum. and there’s nothing that can be done about it I’ve heard stories about personal or other identifying information incidentally disclosed in PMs and then that person gets doxxd ,stalked or other by some with too much time. I think it almost always happens via PMs, so that’s just a warning to those who don’t know.

the difference is intent I didn’t intend to trigger anyone by that observation. and it wasn’t posted as bait either. I wouldn’t make that same observation about another country - just my own. back to topic - it wasn’t an attempt to be divisive

community is word that seems to have evolved in last several years. it has always meant subsets of people with shared interests. in contemporary use, it seems to imply that the group has positive common goals/interests although it doesn’t mean 100% alignment. this group has some members that get off on divisive topics which is usually politics or adjacent subject matter. So, they’re seeking to disrupt & cause friction - not exactly community. and community probably doesn’t include members who use aliases to appear as several different people. given this is an anonymous forum & the specific subject matter - it shouldn’t be any surprise there are dozens of users with personal agendas that have nothing to do with positive common shared interests. anonymous online forum - yes community - no

as of yesterday - it’s probably 4

does anyone know Russo at Adonis/NY ? very interested to know more

silence is golden, and speaks volumes the oxygen in this particular room is evidently quite valuable - obviously the perp couldn’t function if banned here too

well - that answers the why none of it makes any sense without the need for a coverup

you can say that again - and some more than others let’s just hope it’s leaning towards a less fabulist pov

is this true ? could be a reason for the restricted access, or perhaps it was the epic meltdown - it was brutal

this is all so predictable- just like before Triggered