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well, that's unfortunate. 
 
Part of the massage experience for me is having someone be friendly. Criminey! I'm getting naked on his table. I don't need to be scolded.  I don't care if it's not sincere. Just PRETEND it's sincere! 
 

Hey there, Andy is still around but I think mostly by request only. I’m curious about other masseurs here. I saw someone a few weeks back and it was an ok experience but nothing special. Any new intel? 

I thought that lat was his arm and wondered where is his hand? 🤦😁

hardware.
That’s my nightmare 
I got spoiled once or twice with a few different guys just taking their time and making me feel like there was a connection when I first started getting massages
sadly, they’re both out of the business now. 
 

once again, this site has saved me heartache, money, and, in this case, gas. 
 
did a deeper dig and this came up on guy in pic above: 
 
"Troy and Marco were pics from the same masseur profiles on Massage M4M and turned out to be a total misrepresentation of who he is. He’s at least 50 lbs heavier and older. The Ed Hardy shirt is a dead giveaway that he’s using an old photo too. But I would skip."

Bur shirtless he'd earn a wolf whistle!

I think in some ways, most people are broken

He's broken to me. I set up 3 appointments with him, and with 60 minutes to go to his 'no doorman' apartment, he changed the times.

Alex is in town this week. I performed some internet sleuthing outside this forum which gave me insight into his  background. We met yesterday. I approached the encounter with empathy for a 'broken boy'. Handsome, Super nice guy, he outlined his boundaries and limits in advance, and delivered what I consider an excellent trained massage .. He is human, and possibly sensitive, but it is unfair to judge him Broken. I would definitely repeat.  

Had massages with two new guys here recently, Peter, looks mid to late 30s who is very handsome and gives a great massage. Jesse who looks in late 20s who also works at SParadise WeHo. 
Neither resulted in HE, but draping was very lax, great glute and inner thigh work... Anyone familiar with these young men? And if they have other experiences with them? 

No matter how physically fantastic a massage may feel, it’s not worth it if there are even the most subtle mind games over extras, established fees etc.
Part of the service I like to pay for is unwinding in a safe environment. 
 
the last thing I want to feel when I leave an appointment is that the provider feels offended or was purposely messing with my head 
 

There was mielage, @JeffsterLA - and I’m not ‘attractive’ by most standards. The issue wasn’t mileage - it was the immediate upselling after already agreeing on a price before coming, and then the severe shortage of time while trying to do a quick…non-masseur type activity. I don’t tihnk knowing the poster’s age/weight and general stats is necessary to be able to say that an experience like that is negative. I’d understand knowing the person’s type if we were talking about extras. I never go in expecting extras, but I do go in expecting that what we agree on is honored. 

A search here shows he used to be in weho and had one "i" in his name; now, it's two "i's" and he's in more Koreatown, I think 
mfinder ad has him starting at 200
that's a big hike to 320
the thing is, personally, I'd rather see a guy 4x a year for a high price IF the massage is excellent 
a disconnected rub and tug for $120 is a waste of money
Call me "buddy," get the knots out, and a bear hug at the end is the dream 🛌 
 
plus, face cradle and decent street parking, of course 😉
 

Took one for the team. Nice guy. Actual massage was really good. He's got skills. Table was missing a face cradle so that was not comfortable. He was flaccid the whole time. HE was mechanical. Ended at 45 min mark. Would not repeat.

Because they all measure their cock from the tip, back to their asshole. 😆  Everyone claims to be 8 inches.

Same way he’s 8 inches. 

Does he know how to smile?

I’ll definitely go for one but I want to pick a guy who’ll give a great one; not one who I choose because he’s hot; yes, you can have both. Occasionally I’ve been lucky enough to find that. 

Instead of hiring someone who looks like that lately, I’ve been thinking I’d be better off putting my resources into trying to - in as much as possible - looking like that.
 
yoga. Diet. Gym. Hikes. Better grooming bodywork products. 

Your synopsis suggests you already know your best option is to engage a more compatible provider.

I have session booked with him today, I will post the updates and feedback !! 

That can't be real, and if it is it would likely kill a person. 

I usually go in with zero expectations. 
If I pay $120 for a lousy massage, I feel like I've been ripped off; I paid close to $300 recently for a 90-minute massage, and it was heaven. 
I'd rather save up for the latter than do 2 or 3 of the former.
There's one guy who is close to me and offers a fair price. I need to stick to him, but like a lot of people, I'm like hmmm,,,who's that over there?
 
 

Maybe he’s just trying to be better and more authentic now?

Owen isn’t worth the $.  His pictures are not particularly accurate.  The massage isn’t great and the extras are pretty mechanical.  While I appreciate how many times he complimented me on my body and appearance, that didn’t make up for his lackluster experience.