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A few years ago I would have thought that a claim to be bisexual was a stepping stone to admitted being gay but I've since learned that lots of men truly are bisexual. They may be simultaneously attracted to both men and women or they may go through periods of being attracted to one sex more than the other. I will admit to wondering if Archuleta is calling himself bisexual as a stepping stone but I'm also reminding myself that truly bisexual men do exist... and there are lots of them.  
 

A few years ago I would have thought that a claim to be bisexual was a stepping stone to admitted being gay but I've since learned that lots of men truly are bisexual. They may be simultaneously attracted to both men and women or they may go through periods of being attracted to one sex more than the other. I will admit to wondering if Archuleta is calling himself bisexual as a stepping stone but I'm also reminding myself that truly bisexual men do exist... and there are lots of them.  
 

A few years ago I would have thought that a claim to be bisexual was a stepping stone to admitted being gay but I've since learned that lots of men truly are bisexual. They may be simultaneously attracted to both men and women or they may go through periods of being attracted to one sex more than the other. I will admit to wondering if Archuleta is calling himself bisexual as a stepping stone but I'm also reminding myself that truly bisexual men do exist... and there are lots of them.  
 

A few years ago I would have thought that a claim to be bisexual was a stepping stone to admitted being gay but I've since learned that lots of men truly are bisexual. They may be simultaneously attracted to both men and women or they may go through periods of being attracted to one sex more than the other. I will admit to wondering if Archuleta is calling himself bisexual as a stepping stone but I'm also reminding myself that truly bisexual men do exist... and there are lots of them.  
 

That's been my experience as well, but in recent times some guys have pretty confidently stated Bi even years after coming out. So there are Biguys.
Or should I say Bidudes?

I don't know, Benjamin. Maybe escorts services should be considered a public utility and regulated as such.  😗🤔  

The guys in this video are quite cute, so I have to give them that.  But I don't like that a single individual is answering these types of question for a highly diverse cohort of people. Maybe a better way to respond to the somewhat ignorant questions would be to flip it around and ask the same questions of straights and the straight community.  I think that would show how silly it is to try to answer on behalf of millions of others that have very different life experiences of which you have no knowledge.      

The guys in this video are quite cute, so I have to give them that.  But I don't like that a single individual is answering these types of question for a highly diverse cohort of people. Maybe a better way to respond to the somewhat ignorant questions would be to flip it around and ask the same questions of straights and the straight community.  I think that would show how silly it is to try to answer on behalf of millions of others that have very different life experiences of which you have no knowledge.      

And what's the FIX when your service goes "DOWN" ????   🤪🤣🤪

We're acting as if an escort needs your approval- or anyone's approval- to raise his rates.  
If it happens, it happens.  Then you can decide to go or stay.  It's quite simple.
 

I couldn't last 30 seconds watching that video. Am I crabby?

Never have I smoked pot, snorted coke or used meth

I'm gonna need a form of federal ID that states this explicitly.
And then, I'm gonna need one for myself.

@KrisParr, I reread your posts and now, today, have a slightly different perspective. ( my perspective du jour 🙂 )
You initially volunteered that you hire escorts and, given HD's hotness, the age difference and what was probably your less then subtle infatuation, he understandably saw it as hint that you're open to compensating him for something physical. He later tells you that he has sex with men for money and gets you all turned on while relating stories about his services. He seals a mutual understanding that you're hot for him and that he's available to you for money when he tells you to think it over (and the discount comment). So there it is. The offer is not in writing but it's pretty unambiguous. He knew it. You knew it.
Fast forward to the Braves-Dodgers game and hotel experience. In the world of professional escorts, the escort communicates his expectation regarding compensation up front. But he's not a professional per se and may not know the protocol -- or what you would be willing to pay -- so he fumbles. But you know how it works and when his inexperience caused him to fumble, you allowed it to become a freebie. 
So now what? He clearly likes you, is willing to put the f*ck-up behind you and wants to salvage the relationship (and his reputation). Have fun and go with it -- and maybe find the right time to tell him that you take partial ownership of the whole mindf-ck experience. Let him know that it's not all on him. 
Also, it seems like paying him for experiences that you've already had for free would be hard to swallow (ha ha, pun intended) so that's probably not an option any more. It's now a relationship that is potentially more emotionally risky and in which you have less power -- although potentially more rewarding. Keep your head on straight! I know that I'd be at risk of becoming too emotionally invested in your situation, but you may be more naturally grounded than me. 🙃
 

@KrisParr, I reread your posts and now, today, have a slightly different perspective. ( my perspective du jour 🙂 )
You initially volunteered that you hire escorts and, given HD's hotness, the age difference and what was probably your less then subtle infatuation, he understandably saw it as hint that you're open to compensating him for something physical. He later tells you that he has sex with men for money and gets you all turned on while relating stories about his services. He seals a mutual understanding that you're hot for him and that he's available to you for money when he tells you to think it over (and the discount comment). So there it is. The offer is not in writing but it's pretty unambiguous. He knew it. You knew it.
Fast forward to the Braves-Dodgers game and hotel experience. In the world of professional escorts, the escort communicates his expectation regarding compensation up front. But he's not a professional per se and may not know the protocol -- or what you would be willing to pay -- so he fumbles. But you know how it works and when his inexperience caused him to fumble, you allowed it to become a freebie. 
So now what? He clearly likes you, is willing to put the f*ck-up behind you and wants to salvage the relationship (and his reputation). Have fun and go with it -- and maybe find the right time to tell him that you take partial ownership of the whole mindf-ck experience. Let him know that it's not all on him. 
Also, it seems like paying him for experiences that you've already had for free would be hard to swallow (ha ha, pun intended) so that's probably not an option any more. It's now a relationship that is potentially more emotionally risky and in which you have less power -- although potentially more rewarding. Keep your head on straight! I know that I'd be at risk of becoming too emotionally invested in your situation, but you may be more naturally grounded than me. 🙃
 

@KrisParr, I reread your posts and now, today, have a slightly different perspective. ( my perspective du jour 🙂 )
You initially volunteered that you hire escorts and, given HD's hotness, the age difference and what was probably your less then subtle infatuation, he understandably saw it as hint that you're open to compensating him for something physical. He later tells you that he has sex with men for money and gets you all turned on while relating stories about his services. He seals a mutual understanding that you're hot for him and that he's available to you for money when he tells you to think it over (and the discount comment). So there it is. The offer is not in writing but it's pretty unambiguous. He knew it. You knew it.
Fast forward to the Braves-Dodgers game and hotel experience. In the world of professional escorts, the escort communicates his expectation regarding compensation up front. But he's not a professional per se and may not know the protocol -- or what you would be willing to pay -- so he fumbles. But you know how it works and when his inexperience caused him to fumble, you allowed it to become a freebie. 
So now what? He clearly likes you, is willing to put the f*ck-up behind you and wants to salvage the relationship (and his reputation). Have fun and go with it -- and maybe find the right time to tell him that you take partial ownership of the whole mindf-ck experience. Let him know that it's not all on him. 
Also, it seems like paying him for experiences that you've already had for free would be hard to swallow (ha ha, pun intended) so that's probably not an option any more. It's now a relationship that is potentially more emotionally risky and in which you have less power -- although potentially more rewarding. Keep your head on straight! I know that I'd be at risk of becoming too emotionally invested in your situation, but you may be more naturally grounded than me. 🙃
 

@KrisParr, I reread your posts and now, today, have a slightly different perspective. ( my perspective du jour 🙂 )
You initially volunteered that you hire escorts and, given HD's hotness, the age difference and what was probably your less then subtle infatuation, he understandably saw it as hint that you're open to compensating him for something physical. He later tells you that he has sex with men for money and gets you all turned on while relating stories about his services. He seals a mutual understanding that you're hot for him and that he's available to you for money when he tells you to think it over (and the discount comment). So there it is. The offer is not in writing but it's pretty unambiguous. He knew it. You knew it.
Fast forward to the Braves-Dodgers game and hotel experience. In the world of professional escorts, the escort communicates his expectation regarding compensation up front. But he's not a professional per se and may not know the protocol -- or what you would be willing to pay -- so he fumbles. But you know how it works and when his inexperience caused him to fumble, you allowed it to become a freebie. 
So now what? He clearly likes you, is willing to put the f*ck-up behind you and wants to salvage the relationship (and his reputation). Have fun and go with it -- and maybe find the right time to tell him that you take partial ownership of the whole mindf-ck experience. Let him know that it's not all on him. 
Also, it seems like paying him for experiences that you've already had for free would be hard to swallow (ha ha, pun intended) so that's probably not an option any more. It's now a relationship that is potentially more emotionally risky and in which you have less power -- although potentially more rewarding. Keep your head on straight! I know that I'd be at risk of becoming too emotionally invested in your situation, but you may be more naturally grounded than me. 🙃
 

@KrisParr, I reread your posts and now, today, have a slightly different perspective. ( my perspective du jour 🙂 )
You initially volunteered that you hire escorts and, given HD's hotness, the age difference and what was probably your less then subtle infatuation, he understandably saw it as hint that you're open to compensating him for something physical. He later tells you that he has sex with men for money and gets you all turned on while relating stories about his services. He seals a mutual understanding that you're hot for him and that he's available to you for money when he tells you to think it over (and the discount comment). So there it is. The offer is not in writing but it's pretty unambiguous. He knew it. You knew it.
Fast forward to the Braves-Dodgers game and hotel experience. In the world of professional escorts, the escort communicates his expectation regarding compensation up front. But he's not a professional per se and may not know the protocol -- or what you would be willing to pay -- so he fumbles. But you know how it works and when his inexperience caused him to fumble, you allowed it to become a freebie. 
So now what? He clearly likes you, is willing to put the f*ck-up behind you and wants to salvage the relationship (and his reputation). Have fun and go with it -- and maybe find the right time to tell him that you take partial ownership of the whole mindf-ck experience. Let him know that it's not all on him. 
Also, it seems like paying him for experiences that you've already had for free would be hard to swallow (ha ha, pun intended) so that's probably not an option any more. It's now a relationship that is potentially more emotionally risky and in which you have less power -- although potentially more rewarding. Keep your head on straight! I know that I'd be at risk of becoming too emotionally invested in your situation, but you may be more naturally grounded than me. 🙃
 

I mean, if you think those tickets cost what is a significant amount of money for him, I'd consider reimbursing him for them and saying let's start from scratch.  

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here! 

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here! 

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here! 

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here! 

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here! 

I somehow overlooked this thread until today. Wow @KrisParr, I want to be in your situation! Discovering that a major stud from the gym is available for sexy fun and games is a fantasy dream. It's unfortunate that your one date turned out to be a mindf—k, but for me, that would not be a reason to write him off altogether. Forgive me for using your situation to indulge my own wishful thinking, but here goes.
If it were me in your situation, I'd consider two possible courses of action.
1) Don't try to avoid him at the gym. Treat him like a casual friend. Be friendly but not solicitous. If he wants to advance a friendship, whether it be platonic or sexual without pay, let him do so. From what you've told us, he won't be shy about it if that’s what he wants. The fact that he's already asked you to have dinner means he wants to advance something. Maybe he wants something that doesn't involve compensation.  Or he may still view you as a potential client and dinner is another opportunity to tempt you with the merchandise. 
2) Decide if you want to hire him. If you do, tell him you’re interested and would like to discuss the terms.  If you can arrive at mutually agreeable terms, then go for it!  Why not indulge yourself as long as it's on agreeable terms?
Personally, I'd love for you to go with option #2 and then read about here!