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Hard to say if there's been a slow down as the week of Christmas pre-covid was when I usually had a small slow down anyways. Had two clients Dec 22 and the next one isn't until Jan 6th. Usually I get a few per week, but a small gap is normal this time of year. This just seems slightly longer for the usual holiday slow down though and that's probably due to Omicron. Hopefully things will be back to where they were by mid January.  

I'm sorry I didn't realize this was Ask A Client forum. No one said those escorts don't exist and that there aren't clients with legitimate grievances. Pointing out that this site also attracts the clients who complain the most in no way contradicts or negates any of that. So no, you don't need to modify what I said in the Ask A Provider forum. Pointing out that this site can attract some of the worst clients actually answers and addresses the original question- why so few providers come on here. Your response is kind of an example to what people are talking about. 

When I disagreed with some people on here, I was told that I'm not advertising myself well and/or that I need to use my real provider name (yes, I know contradictory claims). The common denominator in those two contradictory arguments though is this is a space where we, as providers, are not welcome or encouraged to express ourselves freely (or as freely as clients). 

The site also attracts the clients who like to complain the most. I barely spend enough time on RM, let alone come on here to read the Karens and Kevins of the industry pile on someone else. It's an emotionally taxing job as it is, many don't want to make it any more taxing by coming on here.  It's a shame because there are some interesting clients on here who talk about interesting things(about and outside this kind of work), but it's ruined by a culture of entitlement other clients perpetuate. Shawn Monroe, Aaron Bauder and others describe the problems with this culture well. I don't see it changing for the better any time soon. 

One of my favorite topics! Entitlement, smugness, lack of consideration for others, an attitude of "I'm paying so whatever I say, goes" or "I'm the customer and the customer is always right". You can find a little bit of that obnoxious childish sentiment on here, in fact.

I can handle arrogance and ego, to a point, until it goes into the territory of entitlement and insult to others. 

I also usually don't give second chances to flakes/no shows either. That kind of goes into the category of "lack of consideration for others", but I get it.  People can panic and be anxious around something as vulnerable as sexuality. I'll cut those people some slack. But if you didn't show up because you "found someone else" or just changed your mind, then no. The least a person can do is message if they are canceling. I'm not wasting my time on you again if you couldn't even give me the bare minimum courtesy of telling me that you're canceling at the last minute. 

Very rarely have I regretted an appointment. I'll be pretty quick in detecting the entitlement right away and not even entertain meeting such characters in the first place. The flakes are harder to detect, but once you flake then nah not again. So my zero tolerance for flaking and entitlement has done me pretty well in preventing appointments I'll end up regretting. My sanity and self-respect are worth whatever amount they're willing to pay. The power to decide who I meet is one of the greatest perks of this job. 

I'm sorry I didn't realize this was Ask A Client forum. No one said those escorts don't exist and that there aren't clients with legitimate grievances. Pointing out that this site also attracts the clients who complain the most in no way contradicts or negates any of that. So no, you don't need to modify what I said in the Ask A Provider forum. Pointing out that this site can attract some of the worst clients actually answers and addresses the original question- why so few providers come on here. Your response is kind of an example to what people are talking about. 

When I disagreed with some people on here, I was told that I'm not advertising myself well and/or that I need to use my real provider name (yes, I know contradictory claims). The common denominator in those two contradictory arguments though is this is a space where we, as providers, are not welcome or encouraged to express ourselves freely (or as freely as clients). 

The site also attracts the clients who like to complain the most. I barely spend enough time on RM, let alone come on here to read the Karens and Kevins of the industry pile on someone else. It's an emotionally taxing job as it is, many don't want to make it any more taxing by coming on here.  It's a shame because there are some interesting clients on here who talk about interesting things(about and outside this kind of work), but it's ruined by a culture of entitlement other clients perpetuate. Shawn Monroe, Aaron Bauder and others describe the problems with this culture well. I don't see it changing for the better any time soon. 

Sounds like the feeling would be mutual
 

One of my favorite topics! Entitlement, smugness, lack of consideration for others, an attitude of "I'm paying so whatever I say, goes" or "I'm the customer and the customer is always right". You can find a little bit of that obnoxious childish sentiment on here, in fact.

I can handle arrogance and ego, to a point, until it goes into the territory of entitlement and insult to others. 

I also usually don't give second chances to flakes/no shows either. That kind of goes into the category of "lack of consideration for others", but I get it.  People can panic and be anxious around something as vulnerable as sexuality. I'll cut those people some slack. But if you didn't show up because you "found someone else" or just changed your mind, then no. The least a person can do is message if they are canceling. I'm not wasting my time on you again if you couldn't even give me the bare minimum courtesy of telling me that you're canceling at the last minute. 

Very rarely have I regretted an appointment. I'll be pretty quick in detecting the entitlement right away and not even entertain meeting such characters in the first place. The flakes are harder to detect, but once you flake then nah not again. So my zero tolerance for flaking and entitlement has done me pretty well in preventing appointments I'll end up regretting. My sanity and self-respect are worth whatever amount they're willing to pay. The power to decide who I meet is one of the greatest perks of this job. 

When I disagreed with some people on here, I was told that I'm not advertising myself well and/or that I need to use my real provider name (yes, I know contradictory claims). The common denominator in those two contradictory arguments though is this is a space where we, as providers, are not welcome or encouraged to express ourselves freely (or as freely as clients). 

The site also attracts the clients who like to complain the most. I barely spend enough time on RM, let alone come on here to read the Karens and Kevins of the industry pile on someone else. It's an emotionally taxing job as it is, many don't want to make it any more taxing by coming on here.  It's a shame because there are some interesting clients on here who talk about interesting things(about and outside this kind of work), but it's ruined by a culture of entitlement other clients perpetuate. Shawn Monroe, Aaron Bauder and others describe the problems with this culture well. I don't see it changing for the better any time soon. 

"He has a really bad attitude, with his "I have a real job so I don't need to do this" vibe."

Good for him. Who wants to meet a client who is only interested if you have an attitude that that says "I'm financially desperate so I'll tolerate more from you"? Providers are entitled to as much discretion as they want with who they meet. No matter how ridiculous their criteria, they have the final word on their body.  

One of my favorite topics! Entitlement, smugness, lack of consideration for others, an attitude of "I'm paying so whatever I say, goes" or "I'm the customer and the customer is always right". You can find a little bit of that obnoxious childish sentiment on here, in fact.

I can handle arrogance and ego, to a point, until it goes into the territory of entitlement and insult to others. 

I also usually don't give second chances to flakes/no shows either. That kind of goes into the category of "lack of consideration for others", but I get it.  People can panic and be anxious around something as vulnerable as sexuality. I'll cut those people some slack. But if you didn't show up because you "found someone else" or just changed your mind, then no. The least a person can do is message if they are canceling. I'm not wasting my time on you again if you couldn't even give me the bare minimum courtesy of telling me that you're canceling at the last minute. 

Very rarely have I regretted an appointment. I'll be pretty quick in detecting the entitlement right away and not even entertain meeting such characters in the first place. The flakes are harder to detect, but once you flake then nah not again. So my zero tolerance for flaking and entitlement has done me pretty well in preventing appointments I'll end up regretting. My sanity and self-respect are worth whatever amount they're willing to pay. The power to decide who I meet is one of the greatest perks of this job. 

Hard to say if there's been a slow down as the week of Christmas pre-covid was when I usually had a small slow down anyways. Had two clients Dec 22 and the next one isn't until Jan 6th. Usually I get a few per week, but a small gap is normal this time of year. This just seems slightly longer for the usual holiday slow down though and that's probably due to Omicron. Hopefully things will be back to where they were by mid January.  

When I disagreed with some people on here, I was told that I'm not advertising myself well and/or that I need to use my real provider name (yes, I know contradictory claims). The common denominator in those two contradictory arguments though is this is a space where we, as providers, are not welcome or encouraged to express ourselves freely (or as freely as clients). 

The site also attracts the clients who like to complain the most. I barely spend enough time on RM, let alone come on here to read the Karens and Kevins of the industry pile on someone else. It's an emotionally taxing job as it is, many don't want to make it any more taxing by coming on here.  It's a shame because there are some interesting clients on here who talk about interesting things(about and outside this kind of work), but it's ruined by a culture of entitlement other clients perpetuate. Shawn Monroe, Aaron Bauder and others describe the problems with this culture well. I don't see it changing for the better any time soon. 

Depends on the client. Some allow me to be my natural authentic self more freely than others and those tend to be longer term regular clients naturally. Others want me to play a role for them and that will be fun but eventually my real self will need to let itself out every now and then. It's kind of a spectrum really and I have clients who exist all over this spectrum. There is no "typical" client and I attempt to adapt to their proclivities accordingly. You kind of need a natural talent of being able to adapt to a wide variety of personalities to be able to do this job. Of course, there are some clients who extend beyond my limits and I won't be able to adjust to. At a personal level, they are past thresholds I can't tolerate lol. However, one needs good people skills and a natural knack in getting along with a wide spectrum of different types of people to last in this business. The clientele who allow you to be your natural self and who enjoy your natural self are friendships to be treasured. 

The lines between fantasy and reality always need to be remembered by the provider for them to adjust back to their daily personal selves. The work requires a certain type of mental strength. I can see one losing themselves in a sort of chaos with this work. Changing from character to character to suite specific clients, they lose track to who they really are. Kurt Vonnegut's novel Mother Night kind of reminds me of this struggle. It is the story of a spy in World War II who loses themselves in the ulterior personalities they've created, one as a Nazi propagandist. The novel poses questions about how much responsibility does one bear of their actions if they are simply "playing a role". Where are the lines of reality and fantasy drawn exactly? After an extended amount of time performing, who am I exactly? The work touches upon all kinds of questions of ethics, what it means to be human and knowing your self. All such questions are relevant to any provider who has done this long enough, even more so if such work has involved a certain level of kink and sexual fantasy. One must stay grounded in who they really are. Their sense of self needs to remain in tact. Obviously the challenge is even greater for those struggling with various mental health issues. The job isn't for the weak. One's versatility and adaptability will be stretched to new limits, and staying true to your self in the long term is an obstacle that requires a certain mental strength few possess. 

I think that’s very true. I’m aware of other providers who have struggled with this. It does take a lot of mental strength to do the work. I think the social stigma that’s unfortunately still associated with the work doesn’t help. It means you can’t openly discuss the work with others. 

Depends on the client. Some allow me to be my natural authentic self more freely than others and those tend to be longer term regular clients naturally. Others want me to play a role for them and that will be fun but eventually my real self will need to let itself out every now and then. It's kind of a spectrum really and I have clients who exist all over this spectrum. There is no "typical" client and I attempt to adapt to their proclivities accordingly. You kind of need a natural talent of being able to adapt to a wide variety of personalities to be able to do this job. Of course, there are some clients who extend beyond my limits and I won't be able to adjust to. At a personal level, they are past thresholds I can't tolerate lol. However, one needs good people skills and a natural knack in getting along with a wide spectrum of different types of people to last in this business. The clientele who allow you to be your natural self and who enjoy your natural self are friendships to be treasured. 

The lines between fantasy and reality always need to be remembered by the provider for them to adjust back to their daily personal selves. The work requires a certain type of mental strength. I can see one losing themselves in a sort of chaos with this work. Changing from character to character to suite specific clients, they lose track to who they really are. Kurt Vonnegut's novel Mother Night kind of reminds me of this struggle. It is the story of a spy in World War II who loses themselves in the ulterior personalities they've created, one as a Nazi propagandist. The novel poses questions about how much responsibility does one bear of their actions if they are simply "playing a role". Where are the lines of reality and fantasy drawn exactly? After an extended amount of time performing, who am I exactly? The work touches upon all kinds of questions of ethics, what it means to be human and knowing your self. All such questions are relevant to any provider who has done this long enough, even more so if such work has involved a certain level of kink and sexual fantasy. One must stay grounded in who they really are. Their sense of self needs to remain in tact. Obviously the challenge is even greater for those struggling with various mental health issues. The job isn't for the weak. One's versatility and adaptability will be stretched to new limits, and staying true to your self in the long term is an obstacle that requires a certain mental strength few possess. 

To avoid bitter queens!

Ask A Provider is my favorite forum.  I try to avoid posting responses since the forum is supposed to be for providers.

I'm a provider who participates under a pseudonym. I also don't participate as much as in years past. 
One, my honest answers drew negative attention, with some clients here saying things about me and my profile that were false and thus damaging to my brand. 
Two, after nearly a decade working I think many if not most clients posting here are not a representative sample, but rather a self-selected sample. Much of the conventional wisdom around here does not reflect my experience, in ways both positive and negative. Positively, clients here generally seem more savvy at effective communication with providers, compared to most who reach out to me. Negatively, clients here also seem generally more high maintenance than my real-world client base. Not all, but speaking in general terms. 
Thus posting here is not as useful to me as I felt it might be when I joined. Would love to join a provider-only forum.

When I disagreed with some people on here, I was told that I'm not advertising myself well and/or that I need to use my real provider name (yes, I know contradictory claims). The common denominator in those two contradictory arguments though is this is a space where we, as providers, are not welcome or encouraged to express ourselves freely (or as freely as clients). 

The site also attracts the clients who like to complain the most. I barely spend enough time on RM, let alone come on here to read the Karens and Kevins of the industry pile on someone else. It's an emotionally taxing job as it is, many don't want to make it any more taxing by coming on here.  It's a shame because there are some interesting clients on here who talk about interesting things(about and outside this kind of work), but it's ruined by a culture of entitlement other clients perpetuate. Shawn Monroe, Aaron Bauder and others describe the problems with this culture well. I don't see it changing for the better any time soon. 

The same illogical statement has been made about gay men having sex. 
Policing other people’s thoughts and private activities is a dangerous game folks. 

Nothing to do with CPAC, but 21 years ago I drove down to the Hotel Del Cornado for an overnight with a Nephrologist. Two nights later I drove down for an overnight with another Nephrologist client who was there for the same Nephrologists' Convention! I told the second guy I'd been there the other day to see someone else attending the convention and he really wanted to know who! Of course I couldn't tell him.

Never worked CPAC, but the Republican convention was traditionally a great event for providers, full of the typical sexually repressed, wealthy, country club hypocrites who demonize gays, blacks, and libertines publicly while privately trolling for black cock and gay sex.
 
That has changed in the GQP's Trump era. The country clubbers have been replaced with truly dangerous right wing extremists, who've also driven away the Young Republicans and with it the once-legendary fratboy party scene around conservative events. I think I saw a headline about CPAC's dwindling youth attendance over the past few years.
 
Subtraction is no way to win elections, if you ask me.

Agree with Shawn Monroe. We, clients, have anonymity and can say something that may not always be appropriate. Most escorts here have a visible profile and everything they say or experience may be dredged up or sometimes they cannot say things about clients or reveal their true feelings as they have a “professional image” to maintain. Most clients are probably at the stage in their careers or lives who don’t give a damn what others think of them. 
I actually find the questions or topics posed in Ask a Provider really interesting and would value the insights of a true provider. I’m sometimes tempted to type up a response and delete right away as it is for providers and I don’t feel like I should be writing something in a space dedicated to them.