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I haven't left the car running and gone into the house, but what I have done is catch myself starting the car, sitting in it scrolling through facebook, and realizing I didn't open the garage door yet. Now I make sure when I get in the car, I open the garage door before turning on the car.

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My beef with the fob is that you don't need a key to turn the car off. That makes it too easy for me to leave the fob in the car and thus vulnerable. With a key turn off, it's a swift, automatic action for me to take the keys out of the ignition and put them right into my pocket. With a fob, I invariably leave the fob in the car after I exit the car, then I have to return to the car to retrieve it...wasted time. And I HATE carrying big chunky cumbersome things (like fobs) in my pocket.

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My last few cars have all had keyless starters, so I was surprised when I bought my 2015 Mercedes that it had an actual key; I have to remove it to turn off the engine. However, my cheap 2017 Toyota/Mazda has a keyless fob.

 

We have an attached garage which is next to one of the bedrooms, but we also have loud carbon monoxide alarms, which are required in all houses sold in Palm Springs.

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i have made this mistake several times.... the cars i have used that are "keyless" are generally hybrids, so they run almost silently at times. there is very little to alert the low functioning clueless dizzies (a position for which i am the #1 representative) that there is a car still running.

 

guilty as charged.

 

+1! My Lexus is so quiet, I forget it is running.

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I remember many years ago I had a cousin whose car after it was started up using the key, the key could be taken out and the car would still run.

 

That had to be back in the 60's.

 

~Boomer~

GM cars had that feature. I remember them too.

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When I was a kid I heard a story several times about how my uncle got a call at work one day from my aunt... She asked how he'd gotten there & he replied that he'd driven. She was surprised, considering that she was looking out the window at their car. He'd left the house, walked over to a car that was the same model and color as his (Chevy), inserted his door key, then his ignition key, and off he went-- in somebody else's car.

 

When I was a teenager, I was hanging out with my friends. One girl locked her keys in her car (an Olds, I think), though the trunk was open. We were all trying to figure out if there was a way we could remove the back seat, so we could get into the car, when I walked over, inserted the key to my camaro into the door lock, and opened it. From then on, I'd occasionally leave notes for her in the car, usually on the steering wheel.

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Another feature that no one asked for that I could do without - when I turn the car off, I'd like the radio to go off, too. That would be an easy indicator as to whether you remembered to turn the ignition off or not. I don't need the radio to keep playing until I open the door and exit the car.

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Dudes, just get an all-electric car! I loves me my 2018 Bolt EV. I use it and only it for city and for near-by destinations, then I rent an old-fashioned ICE for long-distance travel. Sweet.

 

What if you live in a city that doesn't have electricity?

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We have an attached garage which is next to one of the bedrooms, but we also have loud carbon monoxide alarms, which are required in all houses sold in Palm Springs.

 

I was surprised when I sold my house in CA to learn that you need smoke detectors IN EACH BEDROOM before you can even list. I was equally surprised to find my house in IL didn't have either smoke or CO2 detectors anywhere in the house (since rectified).

 

My Fusion is also so quiet I have to look at the dash to make sure it's off....I do a lot of walking in our neighborhood..no sidewalks..sometimes cars are approaching so quietly I am startled....my dogs know...

 

I remember reading in the early days of hybrids some manufacturers added noisemakers to them so they'd make SOME noise on the street.

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Over 1 million chainsaws were recalled due to a ghostly malfunction that let them run even after they were turned off, causing some injuries — and serious scares.

 

“The power switch can malfunction and allow the chainsaw to continue operating after the operator moves the switch to the ‘off’ position, posing a serious injury hazard to the operator,” reads therecall notice from the US Consumer Product Safety Commission about the 14-inch chainsaws — which were made in China and sold nationwide by Harbor Freight Tools under three different brand names: Portland, One Stop Gardens and Chicago Electric.

 

The California-based retailer said it received 15 reports concerning the seemingly possessed chainsaws — with three resulting in minor cuts and one causing a serious injury to a person’s arm, which required stitches.

 

The recall covers model Nos. 67255 and 61592 of the tools, which were sold from May 2009 through February 2018.

 

Harbor Freight is offering replacements instead of refunds, which will be available starting May 21.

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I was surprised when I sold my house in CA to learn that you need smoke detectors IN EACH BEDROOM before you can even list. I was equally surprised to find my house in IL didn't have either smoke or CO2 detectors anywhere in the house (since rectified).

When we bought our present house last year, the city inspector certified that we had combination smoke/CO2 detectors in every room. But when we later applied for a mortgage a few months later, the inspector sent by the bank to look at the house pointed out that they were not combo monitors, only smoke detectors, and said we would have to install CO2 detectors before we could get a mortgage. I called the realtor through whom we purchased the house, who was shocked, and he went out and bought separate CO2 detectors and installed them himself the same day.

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When we bought our present house last year, the city inspector certified that we had combination smoke/CO2 detectors in every room. But when we later applied for a mortgage a few months later, the inspector sent by the bank to look at the house pointed out that they were not combo monitors, only smoke detectors, and said we would have to install CO2 detectors before we could get a mortgage. I called the realtor through whom we purchased the house, who was shocked, and he went out and bought separate CO2 detectors and installed them himself the same day.

 

Charlie was posting in reply and using the same term, but I thought it was carbon *mon*-oxide detectors (CO) that were necessary, not carbon dioxide (CO2) (which is harmless ...).

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Hell, the insurance industry takes a loss on building sprinklers and offers a discount for having them even though property losses are higher for sprinklered buildings(overall, they wind up trashing everything inside the building with water damage more than they save by preventing spread) because it saves lives.

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It may be “the ultimate driving machine,” but BMWs are proving to be hell on drivers’ thumbs.

 

In yet another lawsuit filed against the German automaker over its luxury cars’ automatically closing doors, a Long Island woman claims her BMW 750Li nearly cut her thumb off — crushing it to the point that she needed reconstructive surgery and two pins.

 

Alexis Fields, a stay-at-home mom from Smithtown, was on her way to her daughter’s Halloween parade in 2016 when her right hand got crushed in the automatic door as she was getting out of her car.

 

The BMW has SCAD (Soft-Close Automatic Door) technology which detects attempts to close the door and kicks in an auto-close mechanism.

 

Fields, 40, says she was reaching in to grab her purse with her right hand leaning on the door frame when the wind nudged the door slightly and triggered the motor.

 

“It happened so fast. It pulled shut on my finger and clamped down like a vice. My thumb was completely flat within seconds,” Fields said.

 

“Then it exploded. It blew up two, three or four times its size. It was awful. Initially I felt no pain but then I started to panic and the pain came in,” Fields added.

 

Within two hours Fields, whose thumb was “mauled and mutilated,” went to a specialist who performed surgery. But “sadly, by that time, it was too late to restore Mrs. Fields’ thumb to its former pre-injury condition,” the suit states.

 

Fields has numbness, limited mobility and pain in her right hand to this day resulting from the Oct. 31, 2016, incident.

 

In March, Godwin Boateng sued the carmaker after his right thumb was chopped off by the SCAD technology in his $70,000 BMW X5.

 

Boateng, a 61-year-old who also lives on Long Island, is also repped by Fields' attorney.

 

Unlike Fields, doctors were unable to save his thumb and he now wears a fake digit from a $3 magician’s kit.

 

The lawyer said since The Post earlier reported on Boateng he has been flooded with dozens of calls from people from around the country who say they have similar injuries.

 

“BMW, like a petulant child, has been unwilling to take responsibility for its modern-day guillotine doors,” he said.

 

A rep for BMW said, “We can’t comment on any pending litigation.”

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Is it so hard to close a car door that we need automatic closing doors now?? We now need a push button car starter instead of a simple turn of a key? Talk about first world problems.

 

I can't stand Lowes' "The moment you realize..." ad campaign, and the latest one really drives me up the wall. A woman is seen (talking to Alexa?) ordering the lights on, and her playlist to be played, then orders her washing machine to turn on before realizing it doesn't do that. So she buys a new washer & dryer.

 

My reaction is always "The moment you realize... you need intensive therapy... to figure out why you're so lazy you'd spend over $1000 for smart appliances instead of just turning them on manually."

 

I've also found that just about every time a company updates its website or technology, the 'improvement' is annoying, not necessary, and endlessly frustrating.

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I can't stand Lowes' "The moment you realize..." ad campaign, and the latest one really drives me up the wall. A woman is seen (talking to Alexa?) ordering the lights on, and her playlist to be played, then orders her washing machine to turn on before realizing it doesn't do that. So she buys a new washer & dryer.

 

My reaction is always "The moment you realize... you need intensive therapy... to figure out why you're so lazy you'd spend over $1000 for smart appliances instead of just turning them on manually."

 

I've also found that just about every time a company updates its website or technology, the 'improvement' is annoying, not necessary, and endlessly frustrating.

You’re showing your age! :eek:

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When we bought our present house last year, the city inspector certified that we had combination smoke/CO2 detectors in every room. But when we later applied for a mortgage a few months later, the inspector sent by the bank to look at the house pointed out that they were not combo monitors, only smoke detectors, and said we would have to install CO2 detectors before we could get a mortgage. I called the realtor through whom we purchased the house, who was shocked, and he went out and bought separate CO2 detectors and installed them himself the same day.

 

When we were selling my dad's house the building inspector and the buyer's real estate agent made a huge deal out of the lack of carbon monoxide detectors. "Installation" was mandatory, required "proof of installation," etc. The inspector did notate that he saw a detector in its package on a shelf in the laundry room. "Installation" involved removing said detector from the package and plugging it into an outlet. So, my brother took video of me getting the detector off the shelf, removing the package, plugging the detector into the wall outlet, and performing the test. The buyer's attorney insisted on additional proof. Our attorney said "no." The buyer agreed with us as did their mortgage company.

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