Str8 groups

[tradehunter]

Anyone ever get with AUTHENTIC str8 men in groups of 2 or more. Was it easy or hard to plan for? Would you do it again?

[Walker1]

What is an AUTHENTIC str8 man?

[biggerbilly]

I think it’ll be hard enough to get one authentic str8 guy to have sex with another man. Any more will require a lot of vomit bags.

[+ tassojunior]

yes, no, yes

[marylander1940]

I think it’ll be hard enough to get one authentic str8 guy to have sex with another man. Any more will require a lot of vomit bags.

 

I had plenty of them in the Navy... now they get pussy so easily makes you wonder if they're truly straight, bi or just horny.

[+ goosh69]

If you mean men who, if not for money, exclusively have Sex with women, then yes.

For PAY. Not in real life. They would not be “exclusively “ straight if so.

[biggerbilly]

I had plenty of them in the Navy... now they get pussy so easily makes you wonder if they're truly straight, bi or just horny.

There’s your answer @tradehunter, join the Navy!

[+ g56whiz]

I think it’ll be hard enough to get one authentic str8 guy to have sex with another man. Any more will require a lot of vomit bags.

 

Or a lot of cash.

[MisterMike]

Does an "authentic" str8 guy get converted to "authentic" bi guy once he has sex with a dude, or downgraded to "inauthentic" str8 guy?

[+ Avalon]

There’s your answer @tradehunter, join the Navy!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs

[Mike Monkevicz]

A lot of cash

[tradehunter]

There’s your answer @tradehunter, join the Navy!

Or need money

[+ quoththeraven]

Why wouldn't you rather have sex with a guy who's actually attracted to guys? Is it the erotic power of seducing, converting or fucking a str8 guy?

 

If money is the only basis for consent, is it really consensual?

[+ jc808]

Well, I'm about to leave for work and, trust me, if it wasn't for the money I would not go.

[+ quoththeraven]

Well, I'm about to leave for work and, trust me, if it wasn't for the money I would not go.

I was speaking in the context of an absence of same-sex sexual attraction.

[+ sniper]

I am willing to do things I don't particularly want to do. I have no desire to have sex with someone who is repulsed by me, but if they are willing, I'm okay with it.

[marylander1940]

There’s your answer @tradehunter, join the Navy!

 

Not anymore... Now a days straight men (specially in big cities full of gay men) have sex in the first date like nothing... why would they ask a guy to give them head if women are so easily available?

 

I am willing to do things I don't particularly want to do. I have no desire to have sex with someone who is repulsed by me, but if they are willing, I'm okay with it.

 

A lot of escorts have sex and do things they don't like with men they're not attracted to because they're older, out of shape, or belong to an ethnic group that doesn't appeal to them at all.

 

As they say in Spanish: "por la plata baila el mono" (a monkey dances for money/silver)

 

http://www.party-jungle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/monkey2.gif

Edited April 9, 2018 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

Why wouldn't you rather have sex with a guy who's actually attracted to guys? Is it the erotic power of seducing, converting or fucking a str8 guy?

 

If money is the only basis for consent, is it really consensual?

 

Exactly, one thing is gay per pay, other things are straight and horny, bi-curious or truly bi yet in denial.

 

Answering your well-thought question: yes, it's consensual but there's an incentive, just like hiring someone. You're starting to sound like a SESTA promoter. LOL, that was a joke/sarcasm!

Edited April 9, 2018 by marylander1940

[+ Charlie]

Why wouldn't you rather have sex with a guy who's actually attracted to guys?

Forgive me for saying this, QTR, but you think like a woman. Most men, including gay men, are more concerned with whether they find their sexual partner attractive than whether the sexual partner finds them attractive. It is why men are much more likely to hire sex partners than women are.

[LivingnLA]

Sexual orientation and sexual activity orientation are independent. They frequently match up, but there are variances. Human sexuality is incredibly complicated.

 

Have I had sexual encounters with men who identify as "straight" and who for all appearances seem to date and prefer emotional/romantic/sexual relations with women? Yes. I have had a variety of experiences over the years. The military, my college fraternity, and other areas of my life have made them possible.

 

Is it possible these guys were or are actually bisexually sexually oriented but in denial? Sure! Our society's deep sexism and hetero-normative expectations make it difficult for many people to self-acknowledge their sexual orientation. Things are slowly getting better, but it will be decades before "people can just be people."

 

I'm more interested in why this topic is being brought up. Is it possible for an "authentic" heterosexual man to have sex with another man. Yes, it's absolutely possible for the vast majority of them to do so, if the situation arises, they are physically capable of performing.

 

In my experiences (maybe a dozen straight guys over 30 odd years), all of them have cum when we've been together. A few have felt guilt or other negative emotional responses. Some have wanted to do it again. One guy, I've known now for 7 years.

 

For me, this is a sexual kink that was formed early. I desire interactions with straight guys and seek them out and probably will for the rest of my life. I know some of them may be bisexually orientated and I even knew one "straight" guy who was obviously gay. He admitted it when I called him on it and said he prefers to be in groups of straight guys because he likes to have sex with them too. My "gaydar" is pretty good and after he and I had a good laugh about our mutual interests, we ended up going to a sports bar, had a few drinks, and met a straight guy and his girlfriend who were on vacation. We ended up all going back and having some fun in their hotel room. She really enjoyed seeing her man double-teamed. That was a very long time ago, but it sure was a fun time.

Edited April 9, 2018 by LivingnLA

[+ quoththeraven]

Forgive me for saying this, QTR, but you think like a woman. Most men, including gay men, are more concerned with whether they find their sexual partner attractive than whether the sexual partner finds them attractive. It is why men are much more likely to hire sex partners than women are.

I'm questioning the ethics of throwing money at men with no experience with men or sexual interest in them because to me it feels like a disrespectful erasure of boundaries. I'm sure there are ways to seduce them that aren't, but it's easy for me to see that as manipulative, which is the opposite of sex intended for the pleasure of both parties.

 

Also, this is a strange thing to say to someone who's hired. I only have sex with people I'm attracted to also. I don't go around fishing for compliments on my appearance or sexual attractiveness.

 

As far as my partner is concerned, my sole criterion is willingness. Willingness isn't usually an issue, though. It's more an issue relevant to men, yet they're socialized to ignore or minimize it.

 

I get it if you think I'm being overly harsh or out of line commenting because I'm not a gay or bisexual man, but that's why I framed this as a series of questions to you all. It wasn't intended to start a discussion about me.

[+ quoththeraven]

Sexual orientation and sexual activity orientation are independent. They frequently match up, but there are variances. Human sexuality is incredibly complicated.

 

Have I had sexual encounters with men who identify as "straight" and who for all appearances seem to date and prefer emotional/romantic/sexual relations with women? Yes. I have had a variety of experiences over the years. The military, my college fraternity, and other areas areas of my life have made it possible.

 

Is it possible these guys were or are actually bisexually sexually oriented but in denial? Sure! Our society's deep sexism and hetero-normative expectations make it difficult for many people to self-acknowledge their sexual orientation. Things are slowly getting better, but it will be decades before "people can just be people."

 

I'm more interested in why this topic is being brought up. Is it possible for an "authentic" heterosexual man to have sex with another man. Yes, it's absolutely possible for the vast majority of them to do so, if the situation arises, they are physically capable of performing.

 

In my experiences (maybe a dozen straight guys over 30 odd years), all of them have cum when we've been together. A few have felt guilt or other negative emotional responses. Some have wanted to do it again. One guy, I've known now for 7 years.

 

For me, this is a sexual kink that was formed early. I desire interactions with straight guys and seek them out and probably will for the rest of my life. I know some of them may be bisexually orientated and I even knew one "straight" guy who was obviously gay. He admitted it when I called him on it and said he prefers to be in groups of straight guys because he likes to have sex with them too. My "gaydar" is pretty good and after he and I had a good laugh about our mutual interests, we ended up going to a sports bar, had a few drinks, and met a straight guy and his girlfriend who were on vacation. We ended up all going back and having some fun in their hotel room. She really enjoyed seeing her man double-teamed. That was a very long time ago, but it sure was a fun time.

What you describe is light years away from the impression I got from the original post.

[+ sniper]

I'm questioning the ethics of throwing money at men with no experience with men or sexual interest in them because to me it feels like a disrespectful erasure of boundaries. I'm sure there are ways to seduce them that aren't, but it's easy for me to see that as manipulative, which is the opposite of sex intended for the pleasure of both parties.

 

 

Opposite, or not at the point on the continuum you would prefer? Some people need to be talked into sex but don't regret it. Was the fact their consent wasn't spontaneous mean it's not present or false?

I'm also not sure that "intended for the pleasure of both parties" is how most people think of sex. It's how many people think all sex should be, but intended by whom? There are times people get horny and frankly they are only really "intending" on their own pleasure, but they will give some to get some.

[biggerbilly]

A lot of homophobia is caused by the belief that “the gays are coming to convert you.” I argued that that ridiculous, only to see thread like this, appear again and again. I guess there’s no use to that.

 

I not going to ask any not to hire straight guys, do what makes you happy. But if you do, especially if you are only interested in str8 guys, please do me one thing. Don’t ever protest, or speak out against conversion therapy!

[LivingnLA]

What you describe is light years away from the impression I got from the original post.

 

Thanks! I think.

 

I do not believe in coercion. Consent should be enthusiastic and informed, otherwise it's at least sexual assault/harassment and potentially rape.

 

Have their been times when alcohol or weed were involved in some of my experiences? Yes. Did I ever engage in sexual coercion? No. That's a line I refuse to cross.

 

If the OP was asking for suggestions on how to "talk" a straight guy into sex, that's an all-together different matter and not something I would agree with as it enters the gray area of sexual coercion/harassment headed toward assault.